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harrytruman
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8/22/2016 9:03:41 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
I hear so much from pastors and Christians about this "father, son, and holy spirit," but these people clearly don't know the bible very well, or basic math skills:
Isaiah 45:5
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,"

Deuteronomy 6:4:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."
Kinder gardener:
1+1+1=3
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8/22/2016 9:06:40 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 9:03:41 PM, harrytruman wrote:
I hear so much from pastors and Christians about this "father, son, and holy spirit," but these people clearly don't know the bible very well, or basic math skills:
Isaiah 45:5
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,"

Deuteronomy 6:4:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."
Kinder gardener:
1+1+1=3

I'd heard that he is one, but i thought it was just a malicious rumour.
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8/22/2016 9:14:34 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 9:13:37 PM, harrytruman wrote:
I'd heard that he is one, but i thought it was just a malicious rumour.

No amigo-

You got no friends? how sad.
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8/22/2016 9:35:28 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 9:03:41 PM, harrytruman wrote:
I hear so much from pastors and Christians about this "father, son, and holy spirit," but these people clearly don't know the bible very well, or basic math skills:
Isaiah 45:5
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,"

Deuteronomy 6:4:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."
Kinder gardener:
1+1+1=3

So ifyou went back in time and you and yourself from 2015 hung out are there 2 of "you" or one? Go get the kinder gardener.
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8/22/2016 10:29:15 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 9:35:28 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 8/22/2016 9:03:41 PM, harrytruman wrote:
I hear so much from pastors and Christians about this "father, son, and holy spirit," but these people clearly don't know the bible very well, or basic math skills:
Isaiah 45:5
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,"

Deuteronomy 6:4:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."
Kinder gardener:
1+1+1=3

So ifyou went back in time and you and yourself from 2015 hung out are there 2 of "you" or one? Go get the kinder gardener.

Jesus moved forward in time and got three. He, himself and the him he left behind.
harrytruman
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8/22/2016 10:45:34 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
So ifyou went back in time and you and yourself from 2015 hung out are there 2 of "you" or one? Go get the kinder gardener.

There are 1, its just that i am doing two dfferent things at the same time.
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8/22/2016 11:01:48 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 9:03:41 PM, harrytruman wrote:
I hear so much from pastors and Christians about this "father, son, and holy spirit," but these people clearly don't know the bible very well, or basic math skills:
Isaiah 45:5
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,"

Deuteronomy 6:4:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."
Kinder gardener:
1+1+1=3

Mark 12:29 "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

John 14:28 ""You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I."

John 10:29 "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand."

Luke 11:20 "But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."

Matthew 12:28 "But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."

Matthew 24:36 ""But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me."

Luke 18:19 ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

Matthew 27:46 "About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?")."

Hebrews 4:15 "For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet he did not sin."

James 1:13 " When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;"
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8/22/2016 11:07:15 PM
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John 14:28 ""You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I."

John 10:29 "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand."

G-d has no son or father, he is one and there are no others:
Exodus 9:14:
"For this time I will send all My plagues on you and your servants and your people, so that you may know that there is no one like Me in all the earth."
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8/22/2016 11:08:12 PM
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8/22/2016 11:19:53 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 9:03:41 PM, harrytruman wrote:
I hear so much from pastors and Christians about this "father, son, and holy spirit," but these people clearly don't know the bible very well, or basic math skills:
Isaiah 45:5
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,"

Deuteronomy 6:4:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."
Kinder gardener:
1+1+1=3

You clearly don't understand Christian doctrine since the triune God is one.
harrytruman
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8/22/2016 11:21:01 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
You clearly don't understand Christian doctrine since the triune God is one.

One three that is, you think that there are three godss who are one, which is no different than hinduism
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8/22/2016 11:23:50 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 11:21:01 PM, harrytruman wrote:
You clearly don't understand Christian doctrine since the triune God is one.

One three that is, you think that there are three godss who are one, which is no different than hinduism

No, we do not believe in multiple Gods. The Triune God is ontologically equal but economically subordinate. Same being, but different in their roles.
harrytruman
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8/22/2016 11:26:01 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 11:23:50 PM, Jerry947 wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:21:01 PM, harrytruman wrote:
You clearly don't understand Christian doctrine since the triune God is one.

One three that is, you think that there are three godss who are one, which is no different than hinduism

No, we do not believe in multiple Gods. The Triune God is ontologically equal but economically subordinate. Same being, but different in their roles.

so you are three different people who are all you, and serve different roles- you make no sense. G-d is ONE G-d, who is One, and there are none like him, and none except him.
He has no father or son or mother or pet goldfish.
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8/22/2016 11:31:26 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 11:26:01 PM, harrytruman wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:23:50 PM, Jerry947 wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:21:01 PM, harrytruman wrote:
You clearly don't understand Christian doctrine since the triune God is one.

One three that is, you think that there are three godss who are one, which is no different than hinduism

No, we do not believe in multiple Gods. The Triune God is ontologically equal but economically subordinate. Same being, but different in their roles.

so you are three different people who are all you, and serve different roles- you make no sense. G-d is ONE G-d, who is One, and there are none like him, and none except him.
He has no father or son or mother or pet goldfish.

It is kind of like when the Bible talks about marriage. The man and the woman become one flesh.

Likewise, the members of the trinity are all the same.
harrytruman
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8/22/2016 11:38:13 PM
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It is kind of like when the Bible talks about marriage. The man and the woman become one flesh.

Likewise, the members of the trinity are all the same.

There are no others but G-d though, being married implies that there is a second person.
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8/22/2016 11:56:34 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 11:38:13 PM, harrytruman wrote:
It is kind of like when the Bible talks about marriage. The man and the woman become one flesh.

Likewise, the members of the trinity are all the same.

There are no others but G-d though, being married implies that there is a second person.

Do you deny that a married couple are one flesh?

And I agree that there is only one God.
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8/23/2016 12:03:12 AM
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Do you deny that a married couple are one flesh?

Not in the literal sense, if the husband dies the wife lives on and vice versa. Let's say if you were referring to a guy named Joe, there is only one guy named Joe, and no one is like Joe. You claim that Joe is actually an abbreviation for:
J.im
O. be wan kanobi
E. lissa

Therefor there is only one Joe, even though everyone has seen Joe being 1 guy named Joe, not 3 people.
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8/23/2016 12:06:54 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/23/2016 12:03:12 AM, harrytruman wrote:
Do you deny that a married couple are one flesh?

Not in the literal sense, if the husband dies the wife lives on and vice versa. Let's say if you were referring to a guy named Joe, there is only one guy named Joe, and no one is like Joe. You claim that Joe is actually an abbreviation for:
J.im
O. be wan kanobi
E. lissa

Therefor there is only one Joe, even though everyone has seen Joe being 1 guy named Joe, not 3 people.

So the man and the woman are two different members yet are one united being right?
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8/23/2016 12:29:04 AM
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So the man and the woman are two different members yet are one united being right?

not entirely. eiher way g-d is one, i.e. doesn't have 2 parts.
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8/23/2016 12:34:01 AM
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At 8/23/2016 12:29:04 AM, harrytruman wrote:
So the man and the woman are two different members yet are one united being right?

not entirely. eiher way g-d is one, i.e. doesn't have 2 parts.

I agree that God is one. Christians do not believe in three Gods. So this isn't something you can keep saying unless you desire to misrepresent Christian doctrine.
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8/23/2016 12:35:49 AM
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At 8/22/2016 11:07:15 PM, harrytruman wrote:
John 14:28 ""You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I."

John 10:29 "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand."

G-d has no son or father, he is one and there are no others:
Exodus 9:14:
"For this time I will send all My plagues on you and your servants and your people, so that you may know that there is no one like Me in all the earth."

Agreed, but that's just the language of the new testament.
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8/23/2016 12:36:01 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/23/2016 12:35:12 AM, harrytruman wrote:
You believe that three gods are one, I believe that one god is one and there are no others.

No, I believe in one God. We agree on the matter 100%.
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8/23/2016 12:38:51 AM
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At 8/23/2016 12:36:01 AM, Jerry947 wrote:
At 8/23/2016 12:35:12 AM, harrytruman wrote:
You believe that three gods are one, I believe that one god is one and there are no others.

No, I believe in one God. We agree on the matter 100%.

who is three gods, I on the other hand believe that G-d is one, see deut 6:4
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8/23/2016 12:39:30 AM
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The only way Jews can attain their salvation according to mainstream Christian belief is to completely change their perception of God, and nearly everything they were told in the Old Testament. That's undeniable is it not?
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8/23/2016 12:40:54 AM
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At 8/23/2016 12:38:51 AM, harrytruman wrote:
At 8/23/2016 12:36:01 AM, Jerry947 wrote:
At 8/23/2016 12:35:12 AM, harrytruman wrote:
You believe that three gods are one, I believe that one god is one and there are no others.

No, I believe in one God. We agree on the matter 100%.

who is three gods, I on the other hand believe that G-d is one, see deut 6:4

Neither one of us believe in three Gods my friend. I know what Deuteronomy 6:4 says, I use the verse when witnessing to people.
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8/23/2016 12:44:34 AM
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At 8/23/2016 12:43:14 AM, harrytruman wrote:
but you argue for a trinity?

Yes, but not three Gods. The Trinity is the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead.