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8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?
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8/31/2016 12:37:29 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

The highly unpleasant 'born again' dogma is attractive to some Christians, but not all, thank goodness.
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8/31/2016 12:40:11 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 12:37:29 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

The highly unpleasant 'born again' dogma is attractive to some Christians, but not all, thank goodness.

and doesn't the bible say and you must be born again??/
but that is off topic and perhaps you should start your own thread ..
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8/31/2016 12:46:34 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 12:40:11 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:37:29 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

The highly unpleasant 'born again' dogma is attractive to some Christians, but not all, thank goodness.

and doesn't the bible say and you must be born again??/
but that is off topic and perhaps you should start your own thread ..

Believing the Bible to be literally true is rather daft, many Christians are not that stupid.
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8/31/2016 12:54:02 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 12:46:34 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:40:11 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:37:29 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

The highly unpleasant 'born again' dogma is attractive to some Christians, but not all, thank goodness.

and doesn't the bible say and you must be born again??/
but that is off topic and perhaps you should start your own thread ..

Believing the Bible to be literally true is rather daft, many Christians are not that stupid.

it says you must be born again t is showed not to be literal by the answer given in the bible straight after it was said, I'm surprised you don't know that...
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8/31/2016 12:58:15 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 12:54:02 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:46:34 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:40:11 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:37:29 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

The highly unpleasant 'born again' dogma is attractive to some Christians, but not all, thank goodness.

and doesn't the bible say and you must be born again??/
but that is off topic and perhaps you should start your own thread ..

Believing the Bible to be literally true is rather daft, many Christians are not that stupid.

it says you must be born again t is showed not to be literal by the answer given in the bible straight after it was said, I'm surprised you don't know that...

I was a 'born again' as a kid so I know all about that nasty dogma. Only a very sick deity would damn all those to hell for mere unbelief!
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8/31/2016 1:00:50 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 12:58:15 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:54:02 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:46:34 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:40:11 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:37:29 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

The highly unpleasant 'born again' dogma is attractive to some Christians, but not all, thank goodness.

and doesn't the bible say and you must be born again??/
but that is off topic and perhaps you should start your own thread ..

Believing the Bible to be literally true is rather daft, many Christians are not that stupid.

it says you must be born again t is showed not to be literal by the answer given in the bible straight after it was said, I'm surprised you don't know that...

I was a 'born again' as a kid so I know all about that nasty dogma. Only a very sick deity would damn all those to hell for mere unbelief!

lol... what has born again got to do with people going to hell, the people choose to go to hell because they reject God, do you think God should force them to spend eternity with him if they chose not too?

born again is not a dogma, it is a biblical fact, I don't think you understood it very well...
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8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.
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8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...
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8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.
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8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
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8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?
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8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
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8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.
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8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...

as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
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8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?
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8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
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8/31/2016 7:33:47 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
And now the godbotherer is reduced (not far) to slanderous unevidenced accusations and lies.
Never mind Jesus "died" so you can do that with impunity.
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9/1/2016 6:44:12 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 7:33:47 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
And now the godbotherer is reduced (not far) to slanderous unevidenced accusations and lies.
Never mind Jesus "died" so you can do that with impunity.

lol you started the name calling , you are the bigot...

I merely stated facts, which shows what your high standards actually entail...
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9/1/2016 6:46:37 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 6:44:12 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:33:47 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
And now the godbotherer is reduced (not far) to slanderous unevidenced accusations and lies.
Never mind Jesus "died" so you can do that with impunity.

lol you started the name calling , you are the bigot...

I merely stated facts, which shows what your high standards actually entail...
Cite the name calling.
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9/1/2016 7:04:05 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 6:46:37 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:44:12 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:33:47 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
And now the godbotherer is reduced (not far) to slanderous unevidenced accusations and lies.
Never mind Jesus "died" so you can do that with impunity.

lol you started the name calling , you are the bigot...

I merely stated facts, which shows what your high standards actually entail...
Cite the name calling.

just from memory, not reading right back, you have called me a bigot, a cult member and a God botherer and someone who has benefited from God's son being butchered...

this is the problem with bigots like you, they flap their big mouths about others and then when something is said back they pull the victim card, well i'm sorry you got pulled in to the gay is normal gang but you choose it you live with it....

enjoy your high morals ....
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9/1/2016 7:14:26 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 7:04:05 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:46:37 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:44:12 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:33:47 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
And now the godbotherer is reduced (not far) to slanderous unevidenced accusations and lies.
Never mind Jesus "died" so you can do that with impunity.

lol you started the name calling , you are the bigot...

I merely stated facts, which shows what your high standards actually entail...
Cite the name calling.

just from memory, not reading right back, you have called me a bigot, a cult member and a God botherer and someone who has benefited from God's son being butchered...
You are a godbotherer and you claim to have benefitted from the alleged butchering of an alleged god's alleged son, get over it.
this is the problem with bigots like you, they flap their big mouths about others and then when something is said back they pull the victim card, well i'm sorry you got pulled in to the gay is normal gang but you choose it you live with it....
Homosexuality is far more normal than gods and ghosts. Citations were called for not conjecture. BTW I'm never the victim.
enjoy your high morals ....
Oh I do.
You people just can't understand the difference between evidence and conjecture.
I asked for a citation, you provided none, thus you are lying.
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9/1/2016 7:18:32 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 7:14:26 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 7:04:05 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:46:37 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:44:12 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:33:47 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
And now the godbotherer is reduced (not far) to slanderous unevidenced accusations and lies.
Never mind Jesus "died" so you can do that with impunity.

lol you started the name calling , you are the bigot...

I merely stated facts, which shows what your high standards actually entail...
Cite the name calling.

just from memory, not reading right back, you have called me a bigot, a cult member and a God botherer and someone who has benefited from God's son being butchered...
You are a godbotherer and you claim to have benefitted from the alleged butchering of an alleged god's alleged son, get over it.
this is the problem with bigots like you, they flap their big mouths about others and then when something is said back they pull the victim card, well i'm sorry you got pulled in to the gay is normal gang but you choose it you live with it....
Homosexuality is far more normal than gods and ghosts. Citations were called for not conjecture. BTW I'm never the victim.
enjoy your high morals ....
Oh I do.
You people just can't understand the difference between evidence and conjecture.
I asked for a citation, you provided none, thus you are lying.

homosexuality is never normal..lol and never will be....

so are you denying calling me a cult member, a god botherer and someone who benefited from God's son being butchered... ?? i may have missed of you calling me depraved..lol

homosexuals are always the victim, when it suits them of course.....
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9/1/2016 7:36:04 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 7:18:32 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 9/1/2016 7:14:26 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 7:04:05 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:46:37 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:44:12 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:33:47 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
And now the godbotherer is reduced (not far) to slanderous unevidenced accusations and lies.
Never mind Jesus "died" so you can do that with impunity.

lol you started the name calling , you are the bigot...

I merely stated facts, which shows what your high standards actually entail...
Cite the name calling.

just from memory, not reading right back, you have called me a bigot, a cult member and a God botherer and someone who has benefited from God's son being butchered...
You are a godbotherer and you claim to have benefitted from the alleged butchering of an alleged god's alleged son, get over it.
this is the problem with bigots like you, they flap their big mouths about others and then when something is said back they pull the victim card, well i'm sorry you got pulled in to the gay is normal gang but you choose it you live with it....
Homosexuality is far more normal than gods and ghosts. Citations were called for not conjecture. BTW I'm never the victim.
enjoy your high morals ....
Oh I do.
You people just can't understand the difference between evidence and conjecture.
I asked for a citation, you provided none, thus you are lying.

homosexuality is never normal..lol and never will be....
But at least it exists, that's one over your gods and ghosts.
so are you denying calling me a cult member, a god botherer and someone who benefited from God's son being butchered... ?? i may have missed of you calling me depraved..lol
Is it pathetic hatred that prevents you from reading what is written?
homosexuals are always the victim, when it suits them of course.....
That's what I said.
I'm never the victim.
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9/1/2016 2:09:21 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult...

Sure, you do, if you claim the Mormons follow a cult (Christianity), then you too follow the same cult. Simple really.

So, answer your own question.

but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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9/1/2016 9:52:08 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 7:36:04 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 7:18:32 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 9/1/2016 7:14:26 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 7:04:05 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:46:37 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/1/2016 6:44:12 AM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:33:47 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:26:59 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:22:27 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:18:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:13:19 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 7:03:46 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:53:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:49:42 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 6:08:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult... but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

No you don't.
That is the whole point of your religion, you don't accept responsibility.

i have a faith not a religion..

you ask for God's forgiveness as you know you have done wrong and you try to live to better standards...

unlike those like yourself who just live your life to please yourself and do not consider what that may entail, as long as you can level it with your own standards that's good enough...
My standards are far far higher than the standards of any gods I've heard of!
Did Jesus save you?

your standards are what you choose them to be, so what you perceive as high could be lower than a snakes belly in reality..lol..

he made a way for us all to be saved...
This Jesus is a character in a book full of immoral tales attributed to the god you worship, my standards are far far higher than the standards of that god.
So I was right, you don't accept responsibility for your actions, you palm the blame onto Jesus.

not at all I admit I am not good enough living by my standards and I need the help of Jesus to set me right with God and i need his help to live a better life...
Did Jesus save you by being butchered as a bloody human sacrifice to your god to atone for your sins?
as i said you may think your standards are high I dare say some drug gang leaders believe they live by a moral code...
So are you a psychopath who lives by bible god's moral code?

lol and you seem to be a homosexual bigot who lives by their own code...
And now the godbotherer is reduced (not far) to slanderous unevidenced accusations and lies.
Never mind Jesus "died" so you can do that with impunity.

lol you started the name calling , you are the bigot...

I merely stated facts, which shows what your high standards actually entail...
Cite the name calling.

just from memory, not reading right back, you have called me a bigot, a cult member and a God botherer and someone who has benefited from God's son being butchered...
You are a godbotherer and you claim to have benefitted from the alleged butchering of an alleged god's alleged son, get over it.
this is the problem with bigots like you, they flap their big mouths about others and then when something is said back they pull the victim card, well i'm sorry you got pulled in to the gay is normal gang but you choose it you live with it....
Homosexuality is far more normal than gods and ghosts. Citations were called for not conjecture. BTW I'm never the victim.
enjoy your high morals ....
Oh I do.
You people just can't understand the difference between evidence and conjecture.
I asked for a citation, you provided none, thus you are lying.

homosexuality is never normal..lol and never will be....
But at least it exists, that's one over your gods and ghosts.
so are you denying calling me a cult member, a god botherer and someone who benefited from God's son being butchered... ?? i may have missed of you calling me depraved..lol
Is it pathetic hatred that prevents you from reading what is written?
homosexuals are always the victim, when it suits them of course.....

I'm never the victim.

i have no pathetic hatred unlike you of course who hates everyone who thinks homosexuality is not normal...

you always play the victim calling people of faith just because you chose to be gay and the bible speaks against homo's...
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9/1/2016 9:57:09 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 2:09:21 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult...

Sure, you do, if you claim the Mormons follow a cult (Christianity), then you too follow the same cult. Simple really.

So, answer your own question.

but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

lol but mormons only claim to be christians, they do not follow the bible they follow the book of mormon....

you seem to be uninformed on the subject..........
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9/2/2016 6:29:09 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 9:57:09 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 9/1/2016 2:09:21 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult...

Sure, you do, if you claim the Mormons follow a cult (Christianity), then you too follow the same cult. Simple really.

So, answer your own question.

but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

lol but mormons only claim to be christians, they do not follow the bible they follow the book of mormon....
But you only claim to be a christian, you only claim to follow the bible created by the Catholics.
you seem to be uninformed on the subject..........
you seem to be uninformed on the subject..........
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9/2/2016 2:17:56 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 9/1/2016 9:57:09 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 9/1/2016 2:09:21 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 3:51:32 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 8/31/2016 2:59:53 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/31/2016 12:33:07 PM, graceofgod wrote:
We see constant changes, back tracking, one leader over ruling the last leader, lies about their history which hide their true shame, yet where ever you go you seem to see the black suits and white shirts of the 17 year old called "elders"...

how do cults get so attractive to people..?

Look in a mirror and ask that question for the cult you follow.

I don't follow any cult...

Sure, you do, if you claim the Mormons follow a cult (Christianity), then you too follow the same cult. Simple really.

So, answer your own question.

but unlike you I do accept responsibility for my own actions...

lol but mormons only claim to be christians,

Yes, just like you claim to be Christian..

they do not follow the bible

Yes, just like the vast majority of those who claim to be Christians.

they follow the book of mormon....

you seem to be uninformed on the subject..........

You seem to be hypocritical on the subject...
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth