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9/9/2016 10:32:37 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

How is this related to religion?
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9/9/2016 10:42:24 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:32:37 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

How is this related to religion?

If everything is designed would there be a word for design?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/9/2016 10:54:46 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:42:24 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:32:37 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

How is this related to religion?

If everything is designed would there be a word for design? : ;

None of God's people will get questions in their minds pertaining to design or where colors come from when they awaken in their new bodies in Paradise. They will simply enjoy all the illusions that are formed in their minds according to what sensual experiences they are having that were all planned by their Creator.
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9/9/2016 11:12:03 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:54:46 AM, IamamI wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:42:24 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:32:37 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

How is this related to religion?

If everything is designed would there be a word for design? : ;

None of God's people will get questions in their minds pertaining to design or where colors come from when they awaken in their new bodies in Paradise. They will simply enjoy all the illusions that are formed in their minds according to what sensual experiences they are having that were all planned by their Creator.

fck off bog.
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9/9/2016 11:14:42 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:32:37 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

How is this related to religion?

I'm still pondering Bul's reasoning on this one since my thought is that; try and explain to some people that the sky is blue and no matter if you showed them all the evidence and shove their heads above their own clouds to see the sky, they will swear balck and blue that the sky is red, because they believe it so, and because they believe it so the sky must be red and all blue sky theory is just a theory.

I think I will go back into my studio/man cave and play some more blues.
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9/9/2016 11:14:46 AM
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At 9/9/2016 11:12:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:54:46 AM, IamamI wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:42:24 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:32:37 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

How is this related to religion?

If everything is designed would there be a word for design? : ;

None of God's people will get questions in their minds pertaining to design or where colors come from when they awaken in their new bodies in Paradise. They will simply enjoy all the illusions that are formed in their minds according to what sensual experiences they are having that were all planned by their Creator.

fck off bog. : ;

What kind of friend are you? I've supported you many times in this forum and you treat me just as bad as you treat the rest of the members in here.
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9/10/2016 12:01:11 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

This so reminds me of an interesting day recently that teetered closely to the edge of death. I know, right. Weirdness. This girl is shopping in the store with only one leg while I sit in the car too caviliar to a consciousness aware it has too legs. Whatever. Let's not make it about that when the interesting thing was what happened after she hobbled to my parked car a mile away, I'm sure it felt like. She bought socks. She asked me if I wanted the blue pair, or the grey pair of socks. Such a decision was whipping me in the face. I don't answer. She gives me grey socks. Secretly I wanted blue. My car is blue. I'm dresses in blue. Duh! But what does this mean when the entire parking lot had only black and white cars? To add context to the strangeness, I had just previously replaced air filters with new green ones, and then new blue ones manifested from nowhere to sit useless on the table. It gets worse. Can you handle the truth?
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9/10/2016 12:05:27 AM
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At 9/10/2016 12:01:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

This so reminds me of an interesting day recently that teetered closely to the edge of death. I know, right. Weirdness. This girl is shopping in the store with only one leg while I sit in the car too caviliar to a consciousness aware it has too legs. Whatever. Let's not make it about that when the interesting thing was what happened after she hobbled to my parked car a mile away, I'm sure it felt like. She bought socks. She asked me if I wanted the blue pair, or the grey pair of socks. Such a decision was whipping me in the face. I don't answer. She gives me grey socks. Secretly I wanted blue. My car is blue. I'm dresses in blue. Duh! But what does this mean when the entire parking lot had only black and white cars? To add context to the strangeness, I had just previously replaced air filters with new green ones, and then new blue ones manifested from nowhere to sit useless on the table. It gets worse. Can you handle the truth?

Acid is bad.
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9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.
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9/10/2016 12:24:19 AM
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At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.

If you couldn't, you would be blue and not even know it.
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9/10/2016 12:35:54 AM
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At 9/10/2016 12:05:27 AM, Skeptical1 wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:01:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

This so reminds me of an interesting day recently that teetered closely to the edge of death. I know, right. Weirdness. This girl is shopping in the store with only one leg while I sit in the car too caviliar to a consciousness aware it has too legs. Whatever. Let's not make it about that when the interesting thing was what happened after she hobbled to my parked car a mile away, I'm sure it felt like. She bought socks. She asked me if I wanted the blue pair, or the grey pair of socks. Such a decision was whipping me in the face. I don't answer. She gives me grey socks. Secretly I wanted blue. My car is blue. I'm dresses in blue. Duh! But what does this mean when the entire parking lot had only black and white cars? To add context to the strangeness, I had just previously replaced air filters with new green ones, and then new blue ones manifested from nowhere to sit useless on the table. It gets worse. Can you handle the truth?

Acid is bad.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the yellow jeep sitting suspiciously at a red light about a month and a half ago. Can you explain that? because that's where this story was going until you showed up wearing a red dress. What we're trying to accomplish is the location of the girl spotted long ago driving a yellow jeep. I got a lead the other day that may or may not be connected to this Cinderella caper. It's a long shot, but my dog found a name and address written on some paper that had blue spray paint and blue thumbtacks, in front of an address with the number 33. Yeah, suddenly things don't sound so crazy now.
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9/10/2016 12:37:45 AM
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At 9/10/2016 12:24:19 AM, s-anthony wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.

If you couldn't, you would be blue and not even know it.

Indeed.
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9/10/2016 1:39:21 AM
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At 9/10/2016 12:37:45 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:24:19 AM, s-anthony wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.

If you couldn't, you would be blue and not even know it.

Indeed.

The same would apply to any other property which is not limited.
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9/10/2016 2:05:34 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

Doesn't everything have a name? Like those two lines that run between your nose and upper lip.
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9/10/2016 3:04:17 AM
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At 9/10/2016 12:24:19 AM, s-anthony wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.

If you couldn't, you would be blue and not even know it.

How boring would there be a world of nothing but good, if all things bad ceased to exist. Hevan suddenly makes you want to puke. Only you wouldn't puke because there isn't anything to be sick about. That's scary in a creepy clown way that never stops smiling and you can't punch him in the face because nothing makes you angry. So you try to escape but there is nothing to run from, and I'm freaking out now because this Stepford reality is suddenly dressed all too the same. Ugh. Heaven is starting to feel more like hell.
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9/10/2016 3:52:46 AM
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At 9/10/2016 3:04:17 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:24:19 AM, s-anthony wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.

If you couldn't, you would be blue and not even know it.

How boring would there be a world of nothing but good, if all things bad ceased to exist. Hevan suddenly makes you want to puke. Only you wouldn't puke because there isn't anything to be sick about. That's scary in a creepy clown way that never stops smiling and you can't punch him in the face because nothing makes you angry. So you try to escape but there is nothing to run from, and I'm freaking out now because this Stepford reality is suddenly dressed all too the same. Ugh. Heaven is starting to feel more like hell.

Heaven is meaningless without Hell; joy is meaningless without sorrow; existence is meaningless without contradiction.
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9/10/2016 5:50:47 AM
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At 9/10/2016 5:05:50 AM, UUU wrote:
Scientists believe everything is understandable. And, the word 'understandable' exists.

That which people believe and that which is do not always correspond.
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9/10/2016 5:59:44 AM
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At 9/10/2016 5:50:47 AM, s-anthony wrote:
At 9/10/2016 5:05:50 AM, UUU wrote:
Scientists believe everything is understandable. And, the word 'understandable' exists.

That which people believe and that which is do not always correspond.

But then, every color is a color.
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9/10/2016 6:24:31 AM
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At 9/10/2016 5:59:44 AM, UUU wrote:
At 9/10/2016 5:50:47 AM, s-anthony wrote:
At 9/10/2016 5:05:50 AM, UUU wrote:
Scientists believe everything is understandable. And, the word 'understandable' exists.

That which people believe and that which is do not always correspond.

But then, every color is a color.
Not in the scenario provided in the OP.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/10/2016 6:26:04 AM
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At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.
Can you imagine the absence of design? If so then what is it?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/10/2016 6:28:59 AM
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At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

Is it like a definitive, one color blue or is it "blue" as a general category of colors?
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9/10/2016 6:33:13 AM
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At 9/10/2016 6:28:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

Is it like a definitive, one color blue or is it "blue" as a general category of colors?
Does even the word blue confuse you?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/10/2016 6:35:16 AM
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At 9/10/2016 6:33:13 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/10/2016 6:28:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

Is it like a definitive, one color blue or is it "blue" as a general category of colors?
Does even the word blue confuse you?

I don't understand why you say that. I'm asking if we're talking about something like this blue: https://upload.wikimedia.org... being the only color, or these blues being included because they're blue https://upload.wikimedia.org....
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9/10/2016 10:49:35 AM
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At 9/10/2016 5:59:44 AM, UUU wrote:
At 9/10/2016 5:50:47 AM, s-anthony wrote:
At 9/10/2016 5:05:50 AM, UUU wrote:
Scientists believe everything is understandable. And, the word 'understandable' exists.

That which people believe and that which is do not always correspond.

But then, every color is a color.

I think you're missing the point. Not everything has color.
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9/10/2016 1:45:51 PM
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At 9/10/2016 5:59:44 AM, UUU wrote:
At 9/10/2016 5:50:47 AM, s-anthony wrote:
At 9/10/2016 5:05:50 AM, UUU wrote:
Scientists believe everything is understandable. And, the word 'understandable' exists.

That which people believe and that which is do not always correspond.

But then, every color is a color.
It would seem that my little thought experiment is beyond the capacity of our intellectual godbotherers to fathom, so to simplify.
In my hypothetical scenario you are a god who creates a universe that is what we would call the colour "blue", that is everything is what we would call "blue".
Would the sentient beings of your creation have any reason to invent the word "blue" since no other colour exists? In fact colour doesn't exist, "blue" is just what is.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/10/2016 2:19:01 PM
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At 9/10/2016 6:26:04 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.
Can you imagine the absence of design? If so then what is it?

Yes. We can imagine that something is undesigned. Undesigned means not done or made or performed with purpose or intent. The exact location of where raindrops fall is undesigned.
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9/10/2016 2:24:56 PM
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At 9/10/2016 2:19:01 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/10/2016 6:26:04 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.
Can you imagine the absence of design? If so then what is it?

Yes. We can imagine that something is undesigned. Undesigned means not done or made or performed with purpose or intent. The exact location of where raindrops fall is undesigned.
Not according to the godbotherers who claim that their gods create everything, those are the people like you against whom my arguments are made?
Do you remember Paisley's Watch?
Is dirt designed? Is the water drop you claim drops designed? Is the co ordinate of the landing of the drop designed? If none of these things are designed then how do you know what is designed?
Is the rock upon which Paisley's Watch sits designed?
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9/10/2016 3:14:50 PM
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At 9/10/2016 2:24:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/10/2016 2:19:01 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/10/2016 6:26:04 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/10/2016 12:10:44 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 9/9/2016 10:30:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
Would there be a name for blue?

It depends on whether we could imagine the absence of blue.
Can you imagine the absence of design? If so then what is it?

Yes. We can imagine that something is undesigned. Undesigned means not done or made or performed with purpose or intent. The exact location of where raindrops fall is undesigned.
Not according to the godbotherers who claim that their gods create everything, those are the people like you against whom my arguments are made?

You can have designed processes that result in unintended outcomes. Random number generator software is designed but the random number it generates is not.

Do you remember Paisley's Watch?

No.

Is dirt designed?

There's no design inference so I don't know.

Is the water drop you claim drops designed?

There's no design inference so I don't know.

Is the co ordinate of the landing of the drop designed?

It appears to be an unintended outcome so there's an inference it's undesigned.

If none of these things are designed then how do you know what is designed?

inference

By examining objects which infer intelligent design, such as the human brain.

Is the rock upon which Paisley's Watch sits designed?

Possibly.