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9/16/2016 6:26:45 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
William Shakespeare - "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so."

at least William Shakespeare got it right where most atheists fail!

Oscar Wilde - "Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike."

your attitude! how amazing!

Charles Darwin - "A moral being is one who is capable of reflecting on his past actions and their motives - of approving of some and disapproving of others."

your actions and motives! beautiful!

David Hume - "Morals excite passions, and produce or prevent actions. Reason of itself is utterly impotent in this particular. The rules of morality, therefore, are not conclusions of our reason."

we r unreasonable ppl!

"Take any action allow"d to be vicious: Wilful murder, for
instance. Examine it in all lights, and see if you can find that
matter of fact, or real existence, which you call vice. In
which-ever way you take it, you find only certain passions,
motives, volitions and thoughts. There is no other matter of
fact in the case. The vice entirely escapes you, as long as you
consider the object. You never can find it, till you turn your
reflexion into your own breast, and find a sentiment of
disapprobation which arises in you, towards this action. Here
is a matter of fact; but "tis the object of feeling, not of reason.
It lies in yourself, not in the object. So that when you
pronounce any action or character to be vicious, you mean
nothing, but that from the constitution ofyour nature you have
a feeling or sentiment of blame from the contemplation of it.
Vice and virtue, therefore, may be compar"d to sounds, colours,
heat and cold, which, according to modern philosophy, are not
qualities in objects, but perceptions in the mind."

perceptions in the mind! wowwowowowo

Richard Dawkins - " The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

HALLELUJAH! OBJECTIVE MORALIRY EXIST LETS ADMIT IT GUYS!
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9/16/2016 8:31:14 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/16/2016 6:26:45 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
William Shakespeare - "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so."

at least William Shakespeare got it right where most atheists fail!

Oscar Wilde - "Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike."

your attitude! how amazing!

Charles Darwin - "A moral being is one who is capable of reflecting on his past actions and their motives - of approving of some and disapproving of others."

your actions and motives! beautiful!

David Hume - "Morals excite passions, and produce or prevent actions. Reason of itself is utterly impotent in this particular. The rules of morality, therefore, are not conclusions of our reason."

we r unreasonable ppl!

"Take any action allow"d to be vicious: Wilful murder, for
instance. Examine it in all lights, and see if you can find that
matter of fact, or real existence, which you call vice. In
which-ever way you take it, you find only certain passions,
motives, volitions and thoughts. There is no other matter of
fact in the case. The vice entirely escapes you, as long as you
consider the object. You never can find it, till you turn your
reflexion into your own breast, and find a sentiment of
disapprobation which arises in you, towards this action. Here
is a matter of fact; but "tis the object of feeling, not of reason.
It lies in yourself, not in the object. So that when you
pronounce any action or character to be vicious, you mean
nothing, but that from the constitution ofyour nature you have
a feeling or sentiment of blame from the contemplation of it.
Vice and virtue, therefore, may be compar"d to sounds, colours,
heat and cold, which, according to modern philosophy, are not
qualities in objects, but perceptions in the mind."

perceptions in the mind! wowwowowowo

Richard Dawkins - " The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

HALLELUJAH! OBJECTIVE MORALIRY EXIST LETS ADMIT IT GUYS!

I don't see an argument here. Presumably it is not meant to be one.
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9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.
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9/17/2016 10:19:02 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/16/2016 6:26:45 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
William Shakespeare - "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so."

at least William Shakespeare got it right where most atheists fail!

Oscar Wilde - "Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike."

your attitude! how amazing!

Charles Darwin - "A moral being is one who is capable of reflecting on his past actions and their motives - of approving of some and disapproving of others."

your actions and motives! beautiful!

David Hume - "Morals excite passions, and produce or prevent actions. Reason of itself is utterly impotent in this particular. The rules of morality, therefore, are not conclusions of our reason."

we r unreasonable ppl!

"Take any action allow"d to be vicious: Wilful murder, for
instance. Examine it in all lights, and see if you can find that
matter of fact, or real existence, which you call vice. In
which-ever way you take it, you find only certain passions,
motives, volitions and thoughts. There is no other matter of
fact in the case. The vice entirely escapes you, as long as you
consider the object. You never can find it, till you turn your
reflexion into your own breast, and find a sentiment of
disapprobation which arises in you, towards this action. Here
is a matter of fact; but "tis the object of feeling, not of reason.
It lies in yourself, not in the object. So that when you
pronounce any action or character to be vicious, you mean
nothing, but that from the constitution ofyour nature you have
a feeling or sentiment of blame from the contemplation of it.
Vice and virtue, therefore, may be compar"d to sounds, colours,
heat and cold, which, according to modern philosophy, are not
qualities in objects, but perceptions in the mind."

perceptions in the mind! wowwowowowo

Richard Dawkins - " The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

HALLELUJAH! OBJECTIVE MORALIRY EXIST LETS ADMIT IT GUYS!

There can only ever be objective morality if there is one single point of objectivism, that being a God. If we were to accept that God exists, the problem is that there are currently around 10,000 perceptions of Gods in the world, in other words 10,000 different objective moral views on any one given thing.

So which objective view do we accept?

The one that happens to be from our chosen God, that's which one.
That is hardly objective is it now?

Which is where a hardline theist enters the room (as per usual) and spouts out that there is only one God and we are back with the same old anal retentive argument.....My imaginary friend is the only one, near, near, near, near, near!!!
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9/17/2016 10:46:59 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

eat lots of chickens it will give u the ability to perceive that in atheism u cant say objective morality exist.
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9/17/2016 10:48:49 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/16/2016 8:31:14 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 9/16/2016 6:26:45 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
William Shakespeare - "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so."

at least William Shakespeare got it right where most atheists fail!

Oscar Wilde - "Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike."

your attitude! how amazing!

Charles Darwin - "A moral being is one who is capable of reflecting on his past actions and their motives - of approving of some and disapproving of others."

your actions and motives! beautiful!

David Hume - "Morals excite passions, and produce or prevent actions. Reason of itself is utterly impotent in this particular. The rules of morality, therefore, are not conclusions of our reason."

we r unreasonable ppl!

"Take any action allow"d to be vicious: Wilful murder, for
instance. Examine it in all lights, and see if you can find that
matter of fact, or real existence, which you call vice. In
which-ever way you take it, you find only certain passions,
motives, volitions and thoughts. There is no other matter of
fact in the case. The vice entirely escapes you, as long as you
consider the object. You never can find it, till you turn your
reflexion into your own breast, and find a sentiment of
disapprobation which arises in you, towards this action. Here
is a matter of fact; but "tis the object of feeling, not of reason.
It lies in yourself, not in the object. So that when you
pronounce any action or character to be vicious, you mean
nothing, but that from the constitution ofyour nature you have
a feeling or sentiment of blame from the contemplation of it.
Vice and virtue, therefore, may be compar"d to sounds, colours,
heat and cold, which, according to modern philosophy, are not
qualities in objects, but perceptions in the mind."

perceptions in the mind! wowwowowowo

Richard Dawkins - " The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

HALLELUJAH! OBJECTIVE MORALIRY EXIST LETS ADMIT IT GUYS!

I don't see an argument here. Presumably it is not meant to be one.

its directed to atheists who claim objective morality exisst... look at this and u will see its only determined by your motives and perception.
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9/17/2016 10:49:58 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/17/2016 10:46:59 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

eat lots of chickens it will give u the ability to perceive that in atheism u cant say objective morality exist.

Ooooookay....?

If that is so...

Then so what?
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9/17/2016 10:51:56 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/17/2016 10:19:02 AM, Willows wrote:
At 9/16/2016 6:26:45 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
William Shakespeare - "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so."

at least William Shakespeare got it right where most atheists fail!

Oscar Wilde - "Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike."

your attitude! how amazing!

Charles Darwin - "A moral being is one who is capable of reflecting on his past actions and their motives - of approving of some and disapproving of others."

your actions and motives! beautiful!

David Hume - "Morals excite passions, and produce or prevent actions. Reason of itself is utterly impotent in this particular. The rules of morality, therefore, are not conclusions of our reason."

we r unreasonable ppl!

"Take any action allow"d to be vicious: Wilful murder, for
instance. Examine it in all lights, and see if you can find that
matter of fact, or real existence, which you call vice. In
which-ever way you take it, you find only certain passions,
motives, volitions and thoughts. There is no other matter of
fact in the case. The vice entirely escapes you, as long as you
consider the object. You never can find it, till you turn your
reflexion into your own breast, and find a sentiment of
disapprobation which arises in you, towards this action. Here
is a matter of fact; but "tis the object of feeling, not of reason.
It lies in yourself, not in the object. So that when you
pronounce any action or character to be vicious, you mean
nothing, but that from the constitution ofyour nature you have
a feeling or sentiment of blame from the contemplation of it.
Vice and virtue, therefore, may be compar"d to sounds, colours,
heat and cold, which, according to modern philosophy, are not
qualities in objects, but perceptions in the mind."

perceptions in the mind! wowwowowowo

Richard Dawkins - " The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

HALLELUJAH! OBJECTIVE MORALIRY EXIST LETS ADMIT IT GUYS!

There can only ever be objective morality if there is one single point of objectivism, that being a God.

right.

If we were to accept that God exists, the problem is that there are currently around 10,000 perceptions of Gods in the world, in other words 10,000 different objective moral views on any one given thing.

So which objective view do we accept?

The one that happens to be from our chosen God, that's which one.
That is hardly objective is it now?

Which is where a hardline theist enters the room (as per usual) and spouts out that there is only one God and we are back with the same old anal retentive argument.....My imaginary friend is the only one, near, near, near, near, near!!!

now its a different matter or debate.. which religion is really true. im not argueing that, my point here is if u (as n atheist) claim objective morality exist, it doesnt. zzzzzzzzz
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9/17/2016 10:54:33 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/17/2016 10:49:58 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 9/17/2016 10:46:59 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

eat lots of chickens it will give u the ability to perceive that in atheism u cant say objective morality exist.

Ooooookay....?

If that is so...

Then so what?

now that u became my friend by joining to my side keep bashing atheists round here who claim things wrong :-)
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9/17/2016 11:55:49 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
Morals , Shmorals , Borals.
The arguments over morals ,evolution, and things alike, are nothing more then a " sidetrack "
A sidetrack for the theists to stop people from asking them . ( Prove your Gods real.)
And since not one theist in history of , well everything , has ever come close to proving any God like thingy Ma bob ever existed or exists.
We find ourselves in argument over these things.
I feel for you lot , I really do . I mean it must be hard having to lie to yourself and use these avenues to nowhere to pretty much prove nothing about something you think is everything.
( it's only common sense God doesn't exist ) not a thing more.
You godbotherers love to argue , I guess that's something.
I suggest you all pull ya heads in, this ain't no cattle train.
Good game
Good game.
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9/17/2016 12:36:00 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/17/2016 10:54:33 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/17/2016 10:49:58 AM, Envisage wrote:
At 9/17/2016 10:46:59 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

eat lots of chickens it will give u the ability to perceive that in atheism u cant say objective morality exist.

Ooooookay....?

If that is so...

Then so what?

now that u became my friend by joining to my side keep bashing atheists round here who claim things wrong :-)

You need to read what I actually wrote, instead of what you think I wrote.

If that is so...

Then so what?

If ---> Then.

Assuming you are right. Then so what?
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9/17/2016 12:37:28 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/17/2016 10:48:49 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/16/2016 8:31:14 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 9/16/2016 6:26:45 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
William Shakespeare - "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so."

at least William Shakespeare got it right where most atheists fail!

Oscar Wilde - "Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike."

your attitude! how amazing!

Charles Darwin - "A moral being is one who is capable of reflecting on his past actions and their motives - of approving of some and disapproving of others."

your actions and motives! beautiful!

David Hume - "Morals excite passions, and produce or prevent actions. Reason of itself is utterly impotent in this particular. The rules of morality, therefore, are not conclusions of our reason."

we r unreasonable ppl!

"Take any action allow"d to be vicious: Wilful murder, for
instance. Examine it in all lights, and see if you can find that
matter of fact, or real existence, which you call vice. In
which-ever way you take it, you find only certain passions,
motives, volitions and thoughts. There is no other matter of
fact in the case. The vice entirely escapes you, as long as you
consider the object. You never can find it, till you turn your
reflexion into your own breast, and find a sentiment of
disapprobation which arises in you, towards this action. Here
is a matter of fact; but "tis the object of feeling, not of reason.
It lies in yourself, not in the object. So that when you
pronounce any action or character to be vicious, you mean
nothing, but that from the constitution ofyour nature you have
a feeling or sentiment of blame from the contemplation of it.
Vice and virtue, therefore, may be compar"d to sounds, colours,
heat and cold, which, according to modern philosophy, are not
qualities in objects, but perceptions in the mind."

perceptions in the mind! wowwowowowo

Richard Dawkins - " The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

HALLELUJAH! OBJECTIVE MORALIRY EXIST LETS ADMIT IT GUYS!

I don't see an argument here. Presumably it is not meant to be one.

its directed to atheists who claim objective morality exisst... look at this and u will see its only determined by your motives and perception.

I see a bunch of people's opinions. But I see no argument.
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9/17/2016 1:23:28 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/17/2016 10:54:33 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:

joining to my side keep bashing atheists round here

Yeah, I thought that's what this thread was about, the usual stuff here.
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9/17/2016 2:29:17 PM
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At 9/17/2016 1:23:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 9/17/2016 10:54:33 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:

joining to my side keep bashing atheists round here

Yeah, I thought that's what this thread was about, the usual stuff here.

I'm glad you worked out what POOP is going on about.
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9/17/2016 2:41:59 PM
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At 9/17/2016 11:55:49 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
Morals , Shmorals , Borals.
The arguments over morals ,evolution, and things alike, are nothing more then a " sidetrack "
A sidetrack for the theists to stop people from asking them . ( Prove your Gods real.)
And since not one theist in history of , well everything , has ever come close to proving any God like thingy Ma bob ever existed or exists.
We find ourselves in argument over these things.
I feel for you lot , I really do . I mean it must be hard having to lie to yourself and use these avenues to nowhere to pretty much prove nothing about something you think is everything.
( it's only common sense God doesn't exist ) not a thing more.
You godbotherers love to argue , I guess that's something.
I suggest you all pull ya heads in, this ain't no cattle train.
Good game
Good game.

Good to see you again Deb, this POOP guy is a total mind-poke.

If you haven't already, check this thread out, so hillarious....
http://www.debate.org...

God on trial....every godbotherer chose to argue about the argument rather than put forward an argument, except one who reckoned that the miracles he has seen is proof enough that his imaginary friend exists.
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9/17/2016 9:29:19 PM
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At 9/17/2016 10:46:59 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

eat lots of chickens it will give u the ability to perceive that in atheism u cant say objective morality exist.

So far it has only given me the ability to realize that fried hickory honey BBQ tenderloins are one of the strongest arguments for God's existence I have yet seen. A pity so many theists overlook it.

Good lord, I cooked these things so freaking perfectly this time. The meat is practically falling apart it's so tender. I am a goddamn genius.
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9/17/2016 11:07:32 PM
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At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

Hope you didn't have to wait long. Got here as quick as I could. A quick read of the silliness, looking twice at the avatar, and it appears he's speaking from the mind of a cartoon. South Park, I'm guessing. You're welcome.
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9/17/2016 11:32:25 PM
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At 9/17/2016 11:07:32 PM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

Hope you didn't have to wait long. Got here as quick as I could. A quick read of the silliness, looking twice at the avatar, and it appears he's speaking from the mind of a cartoon. South Park, I'm guessing. You're welcome.

*chortlesnort*
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9/18/2016 10:47:36 PM
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At 9/17/2016 10:46:59 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

eat lots of chickens it will give u the ability to perceive that in atheism u cant say objective morality exist.
Objective morality doesn't exist.
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9/19/2016 4:02:47 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/17/2016 12:37:28 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 9/17/2016 10:48:49 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/16/2016 8:31:14 PM, Envisage wrote:
At 9/16/2016 6:26:45 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
William Shakespeare - "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so."

at least William Shakespeare got it right where most atheists fail!

Oscar Wilde - "Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike."

your attitude! how amazing!

Charles Darwin - "A moral being is one who is capable of reflecting on his past actions and their motives - of approving of some and disapproving of others."

your actions and motives! beautiful!

David Hume - "Morals excite passions, and produce or prevent actions. Reason of itself is utterly impotent in this particular. The rules of morality, therefore, are not conclusions of our reason."

we r unreasonable ppl!

"Take any action allow"d to be vicious: Wilful murder, for
instance. Examine it in all lights, and see if you can find that
matter of fact, or real existence, which you call vice. In
which-ever way you take it, you find only certain passions,
motives, volitions and thoughts. There is no other matter of
fact in the case. The vice entirely escapes you, as long as you
consider the object. You never can find it, till you turn your
reflexion into your own breast, and find a sentiment of
disapprobation which arises in you, towards this action. Here
is a matter of fact; but "tis the object of feeling, not of reason.
It lies in yourself, not in the object. So that when you
pronounce any action or character to be vicious, you mean
nothing, but that from the constitution ofyour nature you have
a feeling or sentiment of blame from the contemplation of it.
Vice and virtue, therefore, may be compar"d to sounds, colours,
heat and cold, which, according to modern philosophy, are not
qualities in objects, but perceptions in the mind."

perceptions in the mind! wowwowowowo

Richard Dawkins - " The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

HALLELUJAH! OBJECTIVE MORALIRY EXIST LETS ADMIT IT GUYS!

I don't see an argument here. Presumably it is not meant to be one.

its directed to atheists who claim objective morality exisst... look at this and u will see its only determined by your motives and perception.

I see a bunch of people's opinions. But I see no argument.

its really hard to see through it.. u need to be an Einstein
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9/19/2016 4:04:41 AM
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At 9/17/2016 1:23:28 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 9/17/2016 10:54:33 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:

joining to my side keep bashing atheists round here

Yeah, I thought that's what this thread was about, the usual stuff here.

lol
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9/19/2016 4:06:57 AM
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At 9/17/2016 11:07:32 PM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

Hope you didn't have to wait long. Got here as quick as I could. A quick read of the silliness, looking twice at the avatar, and it appears he's speaking from the mind of a cartoon. South Park, I'm guessing. You're welcome.

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9/19/2016 4:08:15 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/18/2016 10:47:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/17/2016 10:46:59 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 9/16/2016 11:16:38 PM, Casten wrote:
I read your post twice and still do not follow. I'm just gonna sit back until someone smarter than me makes more sense of it, and then responds. Then I will forage their response for some idea of what you're saying. Until then, I will eat chicken. This concludes my report of my plans. I know you're all riveted.

eat lots of chickens it will give u the ability to perceive that in atheism u cant say objective morality exist.
Objective morality doesn't exist.

i always knew u r the smartest person here others dont get it :)
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9/19/2016 10:48:51 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 9/17/2016 10:46:59 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
eat lots of chickens it will give u the ability to perceive that in atheism u cant say objective morality exist.

To bring in God to give us morality already presumes "might makes right" as the paradigm of morality, so it undermines the objectivity of it from the beginning. What difference does the all embracing nature of God, or his ability to punish or reward us, make upon the ethical quality of an action, if that valuation is supposedly "objective" and therefore internal to it?
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx