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tarantula
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9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM
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When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?
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9/29/2016 8:52:56 AM
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At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

A question I've asked for decades and as usual the answer is goddidit.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/29/2016 9:18:08 AM
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All they remember about Jesus was that wild weekend they had . Where drunk Jesus and pals trashed the inn , took over sizzlers , and walked around telling everyone that their religion was crap.
God damn Jesus could party. Party like it's 100.
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9/29/2016 9:33:34 AM
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At 9/29/2016 9:18:08 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
All they remember about Jesus was that wild weekend they had . Where drunk Jesus and pals trashed the inn , took over sizzlers , and walked around telling everyone that their religion was crap.
God damn Jesus could party. Party like it's 100.

Then he walked into a hotel, slapped a few nails on the reception desk and asked if they could put him up for the night.
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9/29/2016 9:35:34 AM
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At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

Some of us seem to be very good at it, especially deluded Christians.
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9/29/2016 9:35:52 AM
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At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

By the power of the Holy Spirit.
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9/29/2016 9:36:40 AM
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At 9/29/2016 9:33:34 AM, Willows wrote:
At 9/29/2016 9:18:08 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
All they remember about Jesus was that wild weekend they had . Where drunk Jesus and pals trashed the inn , took over sizzlers , and walked around telling everyone that their religion was crap.
God damn Jesus could party. Party like it's 100.

Then he walked into a hotel, slapped a few nails on the reception desk and asked if they could put him up for the night.

I just wee a little bit. Funny stuff.
Hi man.
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9/29/2016 9:39:54 AM
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At 9/29/2016 9:36:40 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 9/29/2016 9:33:34 AM, Willows wrote:
At 9/29/2016 9:18:08 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
All they remember about Jesus was that wild weekend they had . Where drunk Jesus and pals trashed the inn , took over sizzlers , and walked around telling everyone that their religion was crap.
God damn Jesus could party. Party like it's 100.

Then he walked into a hotel, slapped a few nails on the reception desk and asked if they could put him up for the night.

I just wee a little bit. Funny stuff.
Hi man.

Hi Deb, better mop it up coz.......
2nite we gonna party like it's nineteen ninety ni eeeeeen.
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9/29/2016 10:47:44 AM
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At 9/29/2016 9:35:52 AM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

By the power of the Holy Spirit.

Very funny, like it exists!
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9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM
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At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.
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9/29/2016 11:08:05 AM
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At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

The disciples of Jesus probably couldn't read or write, there is no indication anything was written up about him before he died.
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9/29/2016 11:22:21 AM
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At 9/29/2016 11:08:05 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

The disciples of Jesus probably couldn't read or write, there is no indication anything was written up about him before he died.

What evidence is there that they couldn't read or write?
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9/29/2016 11:23:15 AM
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At 9/29/2016 11:22:21 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:08:05 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

The disciples of Jesus probably couldn't read or write, there is no indication anything was written up about him before he died.

What evidence is there that they couldn't read or write?

On come on they were poor fishermen, school wasn't compulsory in those days!
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9/29/2016 11:38:08 AM
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Just to play devils advocate...

The skeptics here, you all have your final college thesis, on paper right? And your transcripts, on paper.,. Maybe locked away with other important papers that will last 2000 some odd years...
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9/29/2016 11:43:05 AM
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At 9/29/2016 9:35:52 AM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

By the power of the Holy Spirit.
WOOHOO!
I'm a fckin' prophet.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/29/2016 11:48:18 AM
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At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

Taking notes by illiterate fishermen was a common practice in Iron Age Palestine? Sources?
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9/29/2016 11:53:42 AM
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At 9/29/2016 11:23:15 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:22:21 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:08:05 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

The disciples of Jesus probably couldn't read or write, there is no indication anything was written up about him before he died.

What evidence is there that they couldn't read or write?

On come on they were poor fishermen, school wasn't compulsory in those days!

Evidence?
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9/29/2016 11:55:12 AM
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At 9/29/2016 11:48:18 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

Taking notes by illiterate fishermen was a common practice in Iron Age Palestine? Sources?

Taking notes is nothing new and how do you know they were illiterate?
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9/29/2016 12:15:10 PM
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At 9/29/2016 11:55:12 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:48:18 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

Taking notes by illiterate fishermen was a common practice in Iron Age Palestine? Sources?

Taking notes is nothing new and how do you know they were illiterate?

Most fishermen and peasants were illiterate at the time, prove that they weren't.
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9/29/2016 12:20:43 PM
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At 9/29/2016 11:55:12 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:48:18 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

Taking notes by illiterate fishermen was a common practice in Iron Age Palestine? Sources?

Taking notes is nothing new and how do you know they were illiterate?
You have evidence to support your claim that bronze age fishermen actually took notes of the ravings of messianic wannabes?
Which other of the alleged messiahs followers took notes of their rantings and can you provide evidence of either?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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9/29/2016 12:22:52 PM
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At 9/29/2016 11:55:12 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:48:18 AM, desmac wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

Taking notes by illiterate fishermen was a common practice in Iron Age Palestine? Sources?

Taking notes is nothing new and how do you know they were illiterate?

I am also certain that they had Jumbo Jets flying around at that time, there is no proof that there weren't.
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9/29/2016 1:21:58 PM
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At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

On what, their iPads? Lol.

You are aware that the only writing material was papyrus on bulky scrolls and ink in small pots? Such writing was never done as jotting notes on the run.

Most common people of the time, certainly humble fishermen, were illiterate. The only ones taught literacy were children of the wealthy and those entering the priesthood.

Several significant studies of literacy have appeared in recent years showing just how low literacy rates were in antiquity. The most frequently cited study is by Columbia professor William Harris in a book titled Ancient Literacy. By thoroughly examining all the surviving evidence, Harris draws the compelling though surprising conclusion that in the very best of times in the ancient world, only about 10 percent of the population could read at all and possibly copy out writing on a page. Far fewer than this, of course, could compose a sentence, let alone a story, let alone an entire book. And who were the people in this 10 percent? They were the upper-class elite who had the time, money, and leisure to afford an education. This is not an apt description of Jesus"s disciples. They were not upper-crust aristocrats.

In Roman Palestine the situation was even bleaker. The most thorough examination of literacy in Palestine is by a professor of Jewish studies at the University of London, Catherine Hezser, who shows that in the days of Jesus probably only 3 percent of Jews in Palestine were literate. Once again, these would be the people who could read and maybe write their names and copy words. Far fewer could compose sentences, paragraphs, chapters, and books. And once again, these would have been the urban elites.


Source: Ehrman, Bart D. (2012-03-20). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (Kindle Locations 702-712). Harper Collins, Inc.. Kindle Edition.
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9/29/2016 2:06:19 PM
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At 9/29/2016 1:21:58 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 9/29/2016 11:01:05 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

How do you know it wasn't written down, taking notes is a common practice.

On what, their iPads? Lol.

You are aware that the only writing material was papyrus on bulky scrolls and ink in small pots? Such writing was never done as jotting notes on the run.

Most common people of the time, certainly humble fishermen, were illiterate. The only ones taught literacy were children of the wealthy and those entering the priesthood.

Several significant studies of literacy have appeared in recent years showing just how low literacy rates were in antiquity. The most frequently cited study is by Columbia professor William Harris in a book titled Ancient Literacy. By thoroughly examining all the surviving evidence, Harris draws the compelling though surprising conclusion that in the very best of times in the ancient world, only about 10 percent of the population could read at all and possibly copy out writing on a page. Far fewer than this, of course, could compose a sentence, let alone a story, let alone an entire book. And who were the people in this 10 percent? They were the upper-class elite who had the time, money, and leisure to afford an education. This is not an apt description of Jesus"s disciples. They were not upper-crust aristocrats.

In Roman Palestine the situation was even bleaker. The most thorough examination of literacy in Palestine is by a professor of Jewish studies at the University of London, Catherine Hezser, who shows that in the days of Jesus probably only 3 percent of Jews in Palestine were literate. Once again, these would be the people who could read and maybe write their names and copy words. Far fewer could compose sentences, paragraphs, chapters, and books. And once again, these would have been the urban elites.


Source: Ehrman, Bart D. (2012-03-20). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth (Kindle Locations 702-712). Harper Collins, Inc.. Kindle Edition.

A good post.
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9/29/2016 2:41:13 PM
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At 9/29/2016 9:35:52 AM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

By the power of the Holy Spirit.

I heard that line in a used car ad on the radio.
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9/29/2016 3:04:42 PM
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At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

Idol worship is still alive and well in the 21st century. And one of todays most common false idols is biblical text. As no small number of people read every word in the Bible as if it had just been written down by God, himself. Completely ignoring the many linguistic and ideological interpretations those words have been through before ending up in their particular copy of a collection of texts coming from different times and places and written by different human authors.

Unfortunately, when people NEED to hear from their God, and are not, they will accept any functional substitute.
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9/29/2016 3:28:57 PM
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At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

The brain is like a computer. Every event in all its details are recorded precisely. Some people use hypnosis to recall childhood events. Others use a specific drug to unlock the doors to the deepest recesses of forgotten memories. The apostles had the Holy Spirit regain their recollection to memories of exact words.
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9/29/2016 3:36:44 PM
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At 9/29/2016 3:28:57 PM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

The brain is like a computer. Every event in all its details are recorded precisely. Some people use hypnosis to recall childhood events. Others use a specific drug to unlock the doors to the deepest recesses of forgotten memories. The apostles had the Holy Spirit regain their recollection to memories of exact words.

So, the "Holy Spirit" was a drug dealer?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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9/29/2016 3:43:28 PM
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At 9/29/2016 3:36:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 9/29/2016 3:28:57 PM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

The brain is like a computer. Every event in all its details are recorded precisely. Some people use hypnosis to recall childhood events. Others use a specific drug to unlock the doors to the deepest recesses of forgotten memories. The apostles had the Holy Spirit regain their recollection to memories of exact words.

So, the "Holy Spirit" was a drug dealer?

No.
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9/29/2016 3:46:00 PM
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At 9/29/2016 3:43:28 PM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/29/2016 3:36:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 9/29/2016 3:28:57 PM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

The brain is like a computer. Every event in all its details are recorded precisely. Some people use hypnosis to recall childhood events. Others use a specific drug to unlock the doors to the deepest recesses of forgotten memories. The apostles had the Holy Spirit regain their recollection to memories of exact words.

So, the "Holy Spirit" was a drug dealer?

No.

Ah, so "Holy Spirit" was just the name of the stuff they were smoking. Thanks.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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9/29/2016 3:46:00 PM
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At 9/29/2016 8:52:56 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 9/29/2016 8:12:20 AM, tarantula wrote:
When Jesus was alive nothing was apparently written down about him. The gospel writers only recorded what he is supposed to have said many years later. So how is it possible that they could quote him word for word, even if eye witnesses statements were available?

How many of us could quote the exact words of a conversation we had with someone last week, let alone many years ago?

A question I've asked for decades and as usual the answer is

Are you saying it is impossible to retrieve memories forgotten? This seems like something that can easily be proven. Maybe do a quick google search.