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Willows
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10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM
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Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?
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10/6/2016 1:52:17 PM
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At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Had the Scientific Method been discovered before the story of Adam and Eve, Galileo might have been the first man to step on Mars.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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10/6/2016 2:28:24 PM
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At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?
I believe that anyone who owns a history book would disagree. This in spite of the fact that you could not have been more vague.
1) You state that countries that live by "fundamentalist religious rule" are "poor and way behind the time so far as civilizaton goes." Do you care to define what "civilization" you are speaking of? Western civilization?
2) You also state that less religious countries are more "civilized" How are you defining "civilized"? I assume you must be referencing murder rates or something, as that is what atheists typically resort to.

If we are going off of Western civilization, then your whole position is blatantly false. Austria is a very "civilized" country, yet it is very religious. In fact, roughly 60% adheres to Roman Catholicism. In that same region, Switzerland is roughly 38% Roman Catholic and 27% Reformed. The only real "atheistic" countries I can think of are in the extreme north of Europe such as Scandinavia or the Baltic states. Are you really suggesting that they are more "civilized" than the rest of Europe? They are a better representation of Western civilization than the rest of Europe? Give me a break.
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10/6/2016 4:11:37 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/6/2016 1:52:17 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Had the Scientific Method been discovered before the story of Adam and Eve, Galileo might have been the first man to step on Mars.
That's okay. Galileo was a Christian.
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10/6/2016 4:18:08 PM
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At 10/6/2016 4:11:37 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 10/6/2016 1:52:17 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Had the Scientific Method been discovered before the story of Adam and Eve, Galileo might have been the first man to step on Mars.
That's okay. Galileo was a Christian.

I think you missed the point entirely.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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10/6/2016 4:19:32 PM
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At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

We should bring in more Syrian Mislims so you can find out.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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10/6/2016 4:21:34 PM
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Atheist logic 101

Religion is a henderance to the world.

Bring in more Syrian refugees.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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10/6/2016 4:23:29 PM
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At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Point #2

We now have the internet. Knowledge is more vast than ever before and right at our hands and? The world is becoming more religious, not less.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
RoderickSpode
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10/6/2016 4:26:07 PM
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At 10/6/2016 4:18:08 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:11:37 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 10/6/2016 1:52:17 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Had the Scientific Method been discovered before the story of Adam and Eve, Galileo might have been the first man to step on Mars.
That's okay. Galileo was a Christian.

I think you missed the point entirely.
No I got the point. What I stated was tongue-in-cheek. Galileo believed the Bible, and obviously didn't have any problem with anything written in Genesis.
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10/6/2016 4:28:01 PM
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At 10/6/2016 4:26:07 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:18:08 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:11:37 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 10/6/2016 1:52:17 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Had the Scientific Method been discovered before the story of Adam and Eve, Galileo might have been the first man to step on Mars.
That's okay. Galileo was a Christian.

I think you missed the point entirely.
No I got the point. What I stated was tongue-in-cheek. Galileo believed the Bible, and obviously didn't have any problem with anything written in Genesis.

Galileo was smart. Be like Galileo.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
DanneJeRusse
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10/6/2016 4:31:14 PM
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At 10/6/2016 4:26:07 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:18:08 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:11:37 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 10/6/2016 1:52:17 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Had the Scientific Method been discovered before the story of Adam and Eve, Galileo might have been the first man to step on Mars.
That's okay. Galileo was a Christian.

I think you missed the point entirely.
No I got the point. What I stated was tongue-in-cheek. Galileo believed the Bible, and obviously didn't have any problem with anything written in Genesis.

Except for the fact that he was incarcerated by the Church for the rest of his life. Do you know why?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
RoderickSpode
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10/6/2016 4:40:35 PM
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At 10/6/2016 4:31:14 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:26:07 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:18:08 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:11:37 PM, RoderickSpode wrote:
At 10/6/2016 1:52:17 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Had the Scientific Method been discovered before the story of Adam and Eve, Galileo might have been the first man to step on Mars.
That's okay. Galileo was a Christian.

I think you missed the point entirely.
No I got the point. What I stated was tongue-in-cheek. Galileo believed the Bible, and obviously didn't have any problem with anything written in Genesis.

Except for the fact that he was incarcerated by the Church for the rest of his life. Do you know why?
Yes, he was considered a heretic.
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10/6/2016 4:48:32 PM
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Is the question whether certain societies are less cuturally advanced because they are religious, or are they religious because they are less culturally advanced?

I think the balance is towards is the latter. There was a huge change in the structure of western society caused by the industrial revolution and the associated rapid scientific progress. In the west the change relatively rapid, but it did occur over several generations. Away from the home of industrialism in such places as Africa, Arabia and much of the orient to where it was exorted the change was over-rapid and 'western-style civilisation' is a thin veneer over what went before.
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10/6/2016 4:59:20 PM
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At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

u heard about Islamic spain? learn some history man
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10/6/2016 5:14:10 PM
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At 10/6/2016 4:59:20 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

u heard about Islamic spain? learn some history man

You mean when Muslim invaders conquered Spain slaughtering tens of thousands of people?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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10/7/2016 2:00:43 AM
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At 10/6/2016 5:14:10 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:59:20 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

u heard about Islamic spain? learn some history man

You mean when Muslim invaders conquered Spain slaughtering tens of thousands of people?

LOL!!

Zion Zohar, a Jewish American historian: "Thus, when Muslims crossed the straits of Gibraltar from North Africa in 711 CE and invaded the Iberian Peninsula, Jews welcomed them as liberators from Christian Persecution.

Heinrich Graetz, a Jewish historian: "
It was in these favourable circumstances that the Spanish Jews came under the rule of Mahometans [Muslims], as whose allies they esteemed themselves the equals of their co-religionists in Babylonia and Persia. They were kindly treated, obtained religious liberty, of which they had so long been deprived, were permitted to exercise jurisdiction over their co-religionists, and were only obliged, like the conquered Christians, to pay poll tax""

Spanish historian Ulick Burke:
"The institutions that had flourished under the Moslem, died when the Moslem departed; and after four centuries of light and learning, Andalusia fell back, under the Christian rule, into a condition of ignorance and barbarism, nearly, if not quite, equal to that of the north western provinces of the peninsula."

learn some history urgently man
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10/7/2016 2:15:34 AM
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At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

You're not exactly the poster-child for intelligence, rather a replica of epic failure with at best, a resilience for idiotic postings.
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10/7/2016 7:19:39 AM
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At 10/6/2016 2:28:24 PM, Artaxerxes wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?
I believe that anyone who owns a history book would disagree. This in spite of the fact that you could not have been more vague.
1) You state that countries that live by "fundamentalist religious rule" are "poor and way behind the time so far as civilizaton goes." Do you care to define what "civilization" you are speaking of? Western civilization?
2) You also state that less religious countries are more "civilized" How are you defining "civilized"? I assume you must be referencing murder rates or something, as that is what atheists typically resort to.

If we are going off of Western civilization, then your whole position is blatantly false. Austria is a very "civilized" country, yet it is very religious. In fact, roughly 60% adheres to Roman Catholicism. In that same region, Switzerland is roughly 38% Roman Catholic and 27% Reformed. The only real "atheistic" countries I can think of are in the extreme north of Europe such as Scandinavia or the Baltic states. Are you really suggesting that they are more "civilized" than the rest of Europe? They are a better representation of Western civilization than the rest of Europe? Give me a break.

You completely distorted and side-stepped the argument.
Austria is not ruled by a fundamentalist religious government.
Saudi Arabia is. It is a barbaric state where those who rule are filthy rich whilst those who are ruled are poor. That is uncivilized.
Give me a break.
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10/7/2016 8:46:58 AM
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At 10/6/2016 4:23:29 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

Point #2

We now have the internet. Knowledge is more vast than ever before and right at our hands and? The world is becoming more religious, not less.

So what about the access to knowledge and the internet in less civilized, barbaric fundamentalist ruled countries in the Middle East?
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10/7/2016 8:50:23 AM
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At 10/6/2016 4:19:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

We should bring in more Syrian Mislims so you can find out.

We will probably find out that in time they will understand and appreciate what it is like to live in the free world and prosper without having the fear of God thrust on them every day.
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10/7/2016 9:14:56 AM
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At 10/7/2016 2:15:34 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

You're not exactly the poster-child for intelligence, rather a replica of epic failure with at best, a resilience for idiotic postings.

And your idiotic posting is one of them.
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10/7/2016 10:50:43 AM
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At 10/7/2016 9:14:56 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/7/2016 2:15:34 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

You're not exactly the poster-child for intelligence, rather a replica of epic failure with at best, a resilience for idiotic postings.

And your idiotic posting is one of them.

Willows AGAIN dont be shy admit it u lacking intelligence or in a nice word an idiot :D
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10/7/2016 11:36:17 AM
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At 10/7/2016 8:50:23 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:19:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

We should bring in more Syrian Mislims so you can find out.

We will probably find out that in time they will understand and appreciate what it is like to live in the free world and prosper without having the fear of God thrust on them every day.

Just like in Europe...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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10/7/2016 11:39:46 AM
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Migrant rape of Cologne-Over 2,000 sexual assaults and rapes by migrants reported in one single night-

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

It's so bad in Poland that they did THIS:

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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10/7/2016 11:41:11 AM
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At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

So now explain to us how living in America takes you out of the "fear of God" mindset seeing it is the biggest theistic country in the world.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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10/7/2016 11:57:04 AM
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At 10/7/2016 11:41:11 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

So now explain to us how living in America takes you out of the "fear of God" mindset seeing it is the biggest theistic country in the world.

Because America is not run by a fundamentalist hard-line government. There is a big difference between being free to practice religion and having your life completely run by extreme religious thugs where it is not just the fear of God but the fear of getting one's head lopped off for dissenting.
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10/7/2016 12:02:52 PM
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At 10/7/2016 11:36:17 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 10/7/2016 8:50:23 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/6/2016 4:19:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

We should bring in more Syrian Mislims so you can find out.

We will probably find out that in time they will understand and appreciate what it is like to live in the free world and prosper without having the fear of God thrust on them every day.

Just like in Europe...
If it's not enough that the poor buggers had to trek halfway across a continent to flee religious factional fighting, they are resettled only to have bible bashers grabbing them and converting them to Christianity. Straight out of the pan and into the fire.
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10/7/2016 12:04:53 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/7/2016 10:50:43 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 10/7/2016 9:14:56 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/7/2016 2:15:34 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 10/6/2016 11:02:49 AM, Willows wrote:
Countries that live by fundamentalist religious rule are, as a rule, poor and way behind the times so far as civilization goes. The same goes for less hard-line religious countries like Indonesia for example where it is compulsory to belong to a religion.

As we look further along the scale of less "religiousness", countries are more affluent and more civilized.

So can we blame religion for retarding the advancement of mankind?

You're not exactly the poster-child for intelligence, rather a replica of epic failure with at best, a resilience for idiotic postings.

And your idiotic posting is one of them.

Willows AGAIN dont be shy admit it u lacking intelligence or in a nice word an idiot :D

I'm saying in nice words that you are lacking the ability to reasonably articulate yourself.