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janesix
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10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?
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10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...
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10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?
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10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?

no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...
janesix
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10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?
graceofgod
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10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..
janesix
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10/13/2016 8:51:05 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

I bet there are millions of believers out there who DON'T have those things. I think you are lying.
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10/13/2016 8:52:43 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

Odd that so many believers have health problems, live in poverty and are generally miserable and grumpy. Are there only so many blessings that God hands out?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
Canuck
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10/13/2016 8:55:33 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

It seems this enemy is powerful enough to overcome many of gods' blessings.
Chaosism
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10/13/2016 8:59:37 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why would a benevolent God create a malevolent enemy?
graceofgod
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10/13/2016 9:04:50 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:51:05 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

I bet there are millions of believers out there who DON'T have those things. I think you are lying.

I think they all have it... but hey that's me... as i said the enemy does his bit too...
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10/13/2016 9:06:03 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:52:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

Odd that so many believers have health problems, live in poverty and are generally miserable and grumpy. Are there only so many blessings that God hands out?

really I don't know any grumpy believers...lol

as i said the enemy does his bit too...
graceofgod
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10/13/2016 9:07:49 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:59:37 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why would a benevolent God create a malevolent enemy?

he didn't create him that way, he became that way, he had choices and free will like everyone else...
janesix
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10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?
DanneJeRusse
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10/13/2016 9:10:56 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:55:33 PM, Canuck wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

It seems this enemy is powerful enough to overcome many of gods' blessings.

God must be very weak if he can't even deliver his blessings. He should probably get a job he's more competent, like at McDonalds flipping burgers.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...
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10/13/2016 9:12:38 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:06:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:52:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

Odd that so many believers have health problems, live in poverty and are generally miserable and grumpy. Are there only so many blessings that God hands out?

really I don't know any grumpy believers...lol

as i said the enemy does his bit too...

So what? Is God not all powerful or is he an incompetent boob? Enemy indeed. LOL.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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10/13/2016 9:15:38 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...

So why does God keep letting him interfere?
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10/13/2016 9:18:29 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:12:38 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:06:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:52:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

Odd that so many believers have health problems, live in poverty and are generally miserable and grumpy. Are there only so many blessings that God hands out?

really I don't know any grumpy believers...lol

as i said the enemy does his bit too...

So what? Is God not all powerful or is he an incompetent boob? Enemy indeed. LOL.

God supplies and blesses, the believers can let the enemy steal their blessings... often through ignorance, now that must be something you understand....lol
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10/13/2016 9:19:34 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:15:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...

So why does God keep letting him interfere?

he will until the time comes to stop him completely...
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10/13/2016 9:20:43 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:18:29 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:12:38 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:06:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:52:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

Odd that so many believers have health problems, live in poverty and are generally miserable and grumpy. Are there only so many blessings that God hands out?

really I don't know any grumpy believers...lol

as i said the enemy does his bit too...

So what? Is God not all powerful or is he an incompetent boob? Enemy indeed. LOL.

God supplies and blesses,

But, only to a small handful of believers, the rest are ignored.

the believers can let the enemy steal their blessings...

Which makes no sense at all and shows God to be an incompetent boob who can't get anything right.

often through ignorance, now that must be something you understand....lol

Yes, I do, you provide mountains of it for all to see.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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10/13/2016 9:23:03 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:20:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:18:29 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:12:38 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:06:03 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:52:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

Odd that so many believers have health problems, live in poverty and are generally miserable and grumpy. Are there only so many blessings that God hands out?

really I don't know any grumpy believers...lol

as i said the enemy does his bit too...

So what? Is God not all powerful or is he an incompetent boob? Enemy indeed. LOL.

God supplies and blesses,

But, only to a small handful of believers, the rest are ignored.

the believers can let the enemy steal their blessings...

Which makes no sense at all and shows God to be an incompetent boob who can't get anything right.

often through ignorance, now that must be something you understand....lol

Yes, I do, you provide mountains of it for all to see.

i'm sorry, i don't mean to let people see your ignorance, it's just you seem to show it so very often it's hard to try and cover for you every time....
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10/13/2016 9:26:23 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:19:34 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:15:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...

So why does God keep letting him interfere?

he will until the time comes to stop him completely...

So God lets his creations suffer for thousands of years before he is willing to stop him? Why is God waiting so long? Why didn't he stop Satan right away?
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10/13/2016 9:32:02 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:26:23 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:19:34 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:15:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...

So why does God keep letting him interfere?

he will until the time comes to stop him completely...

So God lets his creations suffer for thousands of years before he is willing to stop him? Why is God waiting so long? Why didn't he stop Satan right away?

because God has made a plan, it is his timing, in the mean time more people have a chance to become believers and be saved...
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10/13/2016 9:33:39 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:32:02 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:26:23 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:19:34 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:15:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...

So why does God keep letting him interfere?

he will until the time comes to stop him completely...

So God lets his creations suffer for thousands of years before he is willing to stop him? Why is God waiting so long? Why didn't he stop Satan right away?

because God has made a plan, it is his timing, in the mean time more people have a chance to become believers and be saved...

Saved from what? The pits of Hell that God created?
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10/13/2016 9:37:39 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Jane, it's all wishful thinking. Theists don't know anything. They fear their own mortality and desperately yearn for a loving (but stern) father figure who will save them from the fate they know is true for all life. They have to believe that they are somehow special and unique. The alternative for them does not bear thinking about. That is where it is coming from. A fear of death and how to avoid it.
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10/13/2016 9:38:22 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:33:39 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:32:02 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:26:23 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:19:34 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:15:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...

So why does God keep letting him interfere?

he will until the time comes to stop him completely...

So God lets his creations suffer for thousands of years before he is willing to stop him? Why is God waiting so long? Why didn't he stop Satan right away?

because God has made a plan, it is his timing, in the mean time more people have a chance to become believers and be saved...

Saved from what? The pits of Hell that God created?

yes but it was not created for man though many chose to go there.....
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10/13/2016 9:40:04 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:38:22 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:33:39 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:32:02 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:26:23 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:19:34 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:15:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...

So why does God keep letting him interfere?

he will until the time comes to stop him completely...

So God lets his creations suffer for thousands of years before he is willing to stop him? Why is God waiting so long? Why didn't he stop Satan right away?

because God has made a plan, it is his timing, in the mean time more people have a chance to become believers and be saved...

Saved from what? The pits of Hell that God created?

yes but it was not created for man though many chose to go there.....

Creating a place of eternal torment is a benevolent act? How is that benevolent? It seems malevolent to me.
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10/13/2016 9:42:28 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:38:22 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:33:39 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:32:02 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:26:23 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:19:34 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:15:38 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:11:08 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 9:07:52 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:48:28 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:42:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:40:50 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:38:27 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:36:12 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/13/2016 8:32:59 PM, janesix wrote:
Why do so many people claim that god is benevolent? I don't see where this is coming from.

Why do you think God is benevolent?

he made a way for us to be with him that meant we had to do nothing but believe...

That sounds more like selfishness than benevolence. Is God needy?
by his grace he blesses us even though we do nothing to deserve it...

What exactly does "blesses us" mean?


no God is not needy, he wants us to chose to be with him...

blessings of health, wealth, joy, peace all sorts really...

How many believers have those things? All of them? If not, then why does God only choose a few to bless?

all of them really but the enemy is at work too..

Why did God give Satan enough power to override his benevolent blessings?

he didn't, but the enemy is very good at bringing believers down, if they let him...

as a roaring lion...

So why does God keep letting him interfere?

he will until the time comes to stop him completely...

So God lets his creations suffer for thousands of years before he is willing to stop him? Why is God waiting so long? Why didn't he stop Satan right away?

because God has made a plan, it is his timing, in the mean time more people have a chance to become believers and be saved...

Saved from what? The pits of Hell that God created?

yes but it was not created for man though many chose to go there.....

So, in your tiny twisted mind, people actually choose to go to Hell. LOL.
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10/13/2016 9:42:33 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2016 9:32:02 PM, graceofgod wrote:

because God has made a plan, it is his timing, in the mean time more people have a chance to become believers and be saved...

Without Satan interfering, wouldn't there be more believers?

Plans are for mere mortals. An omnipotent being does not require an unfolding plan. Whatever his will is can become reality whenever he chooses. Right?