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janesix
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10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?
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10/22/2016 9:38:36 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

I wouldnt be suprised if our purpose is to become the cause of the Big Bang, thereby creating the universe and ourselfes.
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10/22/2016 9:40:19 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here?

To experience beer, pizza and football.

Is there a purpose?

To discover beer, pizza and football.
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10/22/2016 9:42:17 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:40:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here?

To experience beer, pizza and football.
That's one possibility I've considered.

Is there a purpose?

To discover beer, pizza and football.

Those aren't discoveries. They're inventions.
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10/22/2016 9:47:55 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

'Why?' assumes there is intent attached to our existence by an interested overseer. I see no evidence of that.
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10/22/2016 9:57:23 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:42:17 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:40:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here?

To experience beer, pizza and football.
That's one possibility I've considered.

Is there a purpose?

To discover beer, pizza and football.

Those aren't discoveries. They're inventions.

Omg! Those things actually exist? Awesome!

The work here is done, we have fulfilled our purpose.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
There would be peace if you obeyed us.~Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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10/22/2016 11:21:45 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 11:06:42 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here?

Evolution.

Is there a purpose?

No.

+1
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10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.
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10/23/2016 1:05:25 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I am in the same boat. I know theres a purpose but i dont know what it is.
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10/23/2016 1:44:43 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
The opportunity is living, you don't get much of it so make it your purpose to enjoy it.
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10/23/2016 1:53:02 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 1:05:25 AM, janesix wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I am in the same boat. I know theres a purpose but i dont know what it is.

You don't know that there's a purpose otherwise you would be able to explain how you arrived at this knowledge. You want there to be purpose. That's called wishful thinking.
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10/23/2016 9:06:32 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 11:21:45 PM, Skeptical1 wrote:
At 10/22/2016 11:06:42 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here?

Evolution.

Is there a purpose?

No.

+1

Too easy. The answers wrote themselves. :-)
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10/23/2016 10:09:09 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Shouldn't this be in the philosophy forum?

Anyways, both of these questions don't matter. In most cases, these questions can't be answered objectively.
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10/23/2016 11:03:10 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

There is no reason or purpose for our existence. It's a pure coincidence.
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10/23/2016 11:04:47 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

How do you KNOW there is a purpose to our existence? There is currently no evidence supporting that claim so it appears more logical to assume there is no purpose.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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10/23/2016 11:54:37 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

If you think we are here for a purpose and don't know what the purpose is, then what is your reasoning for believing that there is a purpose.
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10/23/2016 11:57:23 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

We are here because our species evolved to have a conscience. The only purpose to life is death, there is nothing more to it. To speculate on theories is pointless and counter intuitive.
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10/23/2016 11:59:36 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I just want to point out that they're both a hypothesis not theories as there's no evidence to support them........ just sayin
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10/23/2016 12:06:48 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 11:57:23 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

We are here because our species evolved to have a conscience. The only purpose to life is death, there is nothing more to it. To speculate on theories is pointless and counter intuitive.

So is commenting on it saying that it is pointless but nevertheless, here you are doing it. Anyways, our species did evolve yes and the idea that we all have a soul could well be a case of "wishful thinking" in which we imagine a purpose and a reason simply to comfort us from the cold hard reality that we are all born to die. Perhaps there is indeed nothing beyond life than nothingness itself but while I am alive, I rather have the comfort of a "wishful thought" which allows me to not ponder too much about the fate that awaits us.
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10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 1:05:25 AM, janesix wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I am in the same boat. I know theres a purpose but i dont know what it is.

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong
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10/23/2016 3:09:40 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

It would be logical to assume that we exist, as individuals, to play our part in the wondrous ongoing expression of being that is "the universe".

So the question being posed is them, what is our role in all of this? And because we are uniquely designed with the capacity cognate, extrapolate, and evaluate our experience of being here, it think it would be logical to assume that this is our role in being here.

That is that we exist to perceive, conceive of, and appreciate the phenomena of existence. In fact, the universe is contemplating itself, through us.
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10/23/2016 3:21:21 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:05:25 AM, janesix wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I am in the same boat. I know theres a purpose but i dont know what it is.

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong

Just because there is no scientific evidence to support a belief does not necessarily mean that a belief is therefore false, I do agree with that notion, however, where God is concerned the lack of that evidence (if he does exist) can only be ascribed to God himself who can't be bothered to provide that evidence, or he doesn't exist which of course means that there can be no evidence. Either way, there is not much sense in following a religion that has not been sanctified by God himself.
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10/23/2016 3:52:21 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 3:21:21 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:05:25 AM, janesix wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I am in the same boat. I know theres a purpose but i dont know what it is.

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong

Just because there is no scientific evidence to support a belief does not necessarily mean that a belief is therefore false, I do agree with that notion, however, where God is concerned the lack of that evidence (if he does exist) can only be ascribed to God himself who can't be bothered to provide that evidence, or he doesn't exist which of course means that there can be no evidence. Either way, there is not much sense in following a religion that has not been sanctified by God himself.

It's not about religion, I'm not religious at all, but I am spiritual, which means that I seek a greater meaning in life through the inner self. The most valuable tool for this is meditation. Even Jesus said "The kingdom of God is within you". If you seek God, He/She/It will find you. This is not to be taken as religious and is totally non condemning. In essence, one can find the evidence of God within. Why would anyone care about what others think?
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10/23/2016 4:03:41 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 3:52:21 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 3:21:21 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:05:25 AM, janesix wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I am in the same boat. I know theres a purpose but i dont know what it is.

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong

Just because there is no scientific evidence to support a belief does not necessarily mean that a belief is therefore false, I do agree with that notion, however, where God is concerned the lack of that evidence (if he does exist) can only be ascribed to God himself who can't be bothered to provide that evidence, or he doesn't exist which of course means that there can be no evidence. Either way, there is not much sense in following a religion that has not been sanctified by God himself.

It's not about religion, I'm not religious at all, but I am spiritual, which means that I seek a greater meaning in life through the inner self. The most valuable tool for this is meditation. Even Jesus said "The kingdom of God is within you". If you seek God, He/She/It will find you. This is not to be taken as religious and is totally non condemning. In essence, one can find the evidence of God within. Why would anyone care about what others think?

I don't think that anyone would (or atleast should) if not for the fact that the faith in God (or actually religion) is often used as an argument to why people should live a certain way and not be true to themselfes and the moment that those arguments are thrust upon those who do not believe, either through laws or discrimination, well, that makes them care.
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10/23/2016 4:13:36 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 4:03:41 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 3:52:21 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 3:21:21 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:05:25 AM, janesix wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I am in the same boat. I know theres a purpose but i dont know what it is.

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong

Just because there is no scientific evidence to support a belief does not necessarily mean that a belief is therefore false, I do agree with that notion, however, where God is concerned the lack of that evidence (if he does exist) can only be ascribed to God himself who can't be bothered to provide that evidence, or he doesn't exist which of course means that there can be no evidence. Either way, there is not much sense in following a religion that has not been sanctified by God himself.

It's not about religion, I'm not religious at all, but I am spiritual, which means that I seek a greater meaning in life through the inner self. The most valuable tool for this is meditation. Even Jesus said "The kingdom of God is within you". If you seek God, He/She/It will find you. This is not to be taken as religious and is totally non condemning. In essence, one can find the evidence of God within. Why would anyone care about what others think?

I don't think that anyone would (or atleast should) if not for the fact that the faith in God (or actually religion) is often used as an argument to why people should live a certain way and not be true to themselfes and the moment that those arguments are thrust upon those who do not believe, either through laws or discrimination, well, that makes them care.

Everyone should always be respectful of other's right to believe what they want, as long as it isn't about hurting others. We have to respect that right but do not have to respect the other person's opinion or belief.
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10/23/2016 4:33:55 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 4:13:36 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 4:03:41 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 3:52:21 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 3:21:21 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:05:25 AM, janesix wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:03:04 AM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/22/2016 9:21:13 PM, janesix wrote:
Why are we here? Is there a purpose?

Some theories suggest that we are imprisoned here in a continuous cycle of reincarnation; that we are tricked into this by the so called fallen beings. It is stated that they lack the light from the creator and use us as food. The theory goes that they use our energy and light as food because they have created an illusion of duality for themselves, that cuts them off from source(God). That is one theory. another theory is that we are here for spiritual growth and that this is a school. The atheists wolves are going to have a field day with these THEORIES, Personally, I have know idea why we are here. The only thing I do know is that we are not an accident or here as random chance. There is purpose. What that purpose is , I don't know.

I am in the same boat. I know theres a purpose but i dont know what it is.

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong

Just because there is no scientific evidence to support a belief does not necessarily mean that a belief is therefore false, I do agree with that notion, however, where God is concerned the lack of that evidence (if he does exist) can only be ascribed to God himself who can't be bothered to provide that evidence, or he doesn't exist which of course means that there can be no evidence. Either way, there is not much sense in following a religion that has not been sanctified by God himself.

It's not about religion, I'm not religious at all, but I am spiritual, which means that I seek a greater meaning in life through the inner self. The most valuable tool for this is meditation. Even Jesus said "The kingdom of God is within you". If you seek God, He/She/It will find you. This is not to be taken as religious and is totally non condemning. In essence, one can find the evidence of God within. Why would anyone care about what others think?

I don't think that anyone would (or atleast should) if not for the fact that the faith in God (or actually religion) is often used as an argument to why people should live a certain way and not be true to themselfes and the moment that those arguments are thrust upon those who do not believe, either through laws or discrimination, well, that makes them care.

Everyone should always be respectful of other's right to believe what they want, as long as it isn't about hurting others. We have to respect that right but do not have to respect the other person's opinion or belief.

I agree, you have as much right to believe what you belief as i have the right to believe what i belief.
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10/23/2016 4:41:23 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM, lotsoffun wrote:

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong

First, you write that bit of tripe, then you contradict yourself by saying this...

At 10/23/2016 4:13:36 PM, lotsoffun wrote:

Everyone should always be respectful of other's right to believe what they want, as long as it isn't about hurting others. We have to respect that right but do not have to respect the other person's opinion or belief.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
There would be peace if you obeyed us.~Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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10/23/2016 4:51:38 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 4:41:23 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM, lotsoffun wrote:

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong

First, you write that bit of tripe, then you contradict yourself by saying this...

At 10/23/2016 4:13:36 PM, lotsoffun wrote:

Everyone should always be respectful of other's right to believe what they want, as long as it isn't about hurting others. We have to respect that right but do not have to respect the other person's opinion or belief.

There is no contradiction. Like I said, the atheist can only mock and criticize. I never, ever said that you don't have your right to your opinion. You do. I don't respect it and I only mock and criticize your opposition to me having a belief, even though you can't stand the thought of that belief. So read what I wrote and try to comprehend. We can agree to disagree.
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10/23/2016 5:46:59 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/23/2016 4:51:38 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 10/23/2016 4:41:23 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/23/2016 2:36:03 PM, lotsoffun wrote:

The clowns on this site who claim to be atheists will never let any people of like minds, who are searching for truth and believe in a higher power, have a discussion or debate about God itself and it's nature. They know very well that proving God exists to them cannot be done. They go on the attack to provoke. They don't understand because they don't have the consciousness that a seeker has. They are dead, spiritually, inside, so when someone talks about God, it enrages them because in reality they are like hard core Muslims or born again Christians, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They don't understand that they actually want everyone to believe what they do so they mock and insist that Theists are wrong. they don't seem to be able to grasp that one can shun religion and yet believe even stronger in a higher power. It's actually best not to engage them. You can't win. It just becomes one big circle that spirals downward. It gives them the satisfaction and belief that they win and are superior. They don't understand or grasp that a true believer in a Creator is on a path and open to higher levels of consciousness (something they can't grasp) and has absolutely no need nor cares to convince any of them that God exists. Hard core religious fundamentalists are far different, because, like the atheists, they have a need to prove the other wrong

First, you write that bit of tripe, then you contradict yourself by saying this...

At 10/23/2016 4:13:36 PM, lotsoffun wrote:

Everyone should always be respectful of other's right to believe what they want, as long as it isn't about hurting others. We have to respect that right but do not have to respect the other person's opinion or belief.

There is no contradiction. Like I said, the atheist can only mock and criticize. I never, ever said that you don't have your right to your opinion. You do. I don't respect it and I only mock and criticize your opposition to me having a belief, even though you can't stand the thought of that belief. So read what I wrote and try to comprehend. We can agree to disagree.

You contradicted yourself and you're doing it again.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
There would be peace if you obeyed us.~Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth