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Willows
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10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

And before you get too smug about your choice just consider the fact that different religious beliefs are globally dependent on geographical and cultural factors, informed choice has nothing to do with why you follow your particular God.

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

There are some lotteries with better odds at winning don't you think?

Have a good sleep now.
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10/23/2016 12:54:27 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

And before you get too smug about your choice just consider the fact that different religious beliefs are globally dependent on geographical and cultural factors, informed choice has nothing to do with why you follow your particular God.

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

There are some lotteries with better odds at winning don't you think?

Have a good sleep now.

I think that you are mispresenting the actual odds of going to heaven. The problem of your calculation (1/10,000) is that it is based only on the number of Gods out there while believing in a God alone is in most religions not enough in order to go to heaven. Many religions also have strict rules to determine who is worthy and who is not worth to go thereby reducing the odds dramatically.
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10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.
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10/23/2016 1:29:23 PM
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At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

In other words a true born christian can break all the rules including rape, murder, child molestation, and who knows what else and still go to heaven?

Isn't that a bit unfair to all those true born christians who were raped, murdered, or molested as a child?
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10/23/2016 1:40:33 PM
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At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

So if a Christian murders 100 people they get to go to heaven? What a strange religion you have been tricked into believing by the environment you grew up in.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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10/23/2016 1:56:06 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/23/2016 12:54:27 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

And before you get too smug about your choice just consider the fact that different religious beliefs are globally dependent on geographical and cultural factors, informed choice has nothing to do with why you follow your particular God.

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

There are some lotteries with better odds at winning don't you think?

Have a good sleep now.

I think that you are mispresenting the actual odds of going to heaven. The problem of your calculation (1/10,000) is that it is based only on the number of Gods out there while believing in a God alone is in most religions not enough in order to go to heaven. Many religions also have strict rules to determine who is worthy and who is not worth to go thereby reducing the odds dramatically.

A h h h...y e e e e s s s, t h a t i s e x a c t l y w h a t I s a i d, ...... " v e t t i n g p r o c e s s e s".

I s t h a t s l o w e n o u g h f o r y o u ? ?
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10/23/2016 1:59:17 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

And what happens if God turns out to be Allah.

You certainly won't be getting even one virgin, let alone, 72.
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10/23/2016 2:38:56 PM
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At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

Translation: "Those who believe as I believe will go to heaven"

We'll probably find most if not each and every believer will say this.
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10/23/2016 2:41:36 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/23/2016 1:40:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

So if a Christian murders 100 people they get to go to heaven? What a strange religion you have been tricked into believing by the environment you grew up in.

Don't forget, they have to say they were sorry for being bad before they can go to heaven
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10/23/2016 2:46:11 PM
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At 10/23/2016 2:41:36 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:40:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

So if a Christian murders 100 people they get to go to heaven? What a strange religion you have been tricked into believing by the environment you grew up in.

Don't forget, they have to say they were sorry for being bad before they can go to heaven

Yeah it's incredible. All Hitler had to do was convert on his deathbed and say sorry for killing all those Jews who were sent to hell for their religious beliefs. What an evil god the barbaric bronze age false religion has.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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10/24/2016 12:50:07 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/23/2016 1:29:23 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

In other words a true born christian can break all the rules including rape, murder, child molestation, and who knows what else and still go to heaven?


No, a true born again Christian will not desire to do those things,

Isn't that a bit unfair to all those true born christians who were raped, murdered, or molested as a child?
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10/24/2016 12:51:03 AM
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At 10/23/2016 1:40:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

So if a Christian murders 100 people they get to go to heaven? What a strange religion you have been tricked into believing by the environment you grew up in.

I grew up in an atheistic environment.
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10/24/2016 12:55:11 AM
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At 10/23/2016 1:59:17 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

And what happens if God turns out to be Allah.

You certainly won't be getting even one virgin, let alone, 72.

Actually, muslims believe they will get endless virgins, because Allah supposedly restores their virginity. muslims will be allowed to indulge in anything they weren't allowed in this life.
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10/24/2016 12:58:11 AM
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At 10/23/2016 2:46:11 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 10/23/2016 2:41:36 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:40:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

So if a Christian murders 100 people they get to go to heaven? What a strange religion you have been tricked into believing by the environment you grew up in.

Don't forget, they have to say they were sorry for being bad before they can go to heaven

Yeah it's incredible. All Hitler had to do was convert on his deathbed and say sorry for killing all those Jews who were sent to hell for their religious beliefs. What an evil god the barbaric bronze age false religion has.

Deathbed conversions are extremely rare.
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10/24/2016 1:00:15 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 12:50:07 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:29:23 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

In other words a true born christian can break all the rules including rape, murder, child molestation, and who knows what else and still go to heaven?


No, a true born again Christian will not desire to do those things,



Isn't that a bit unfair to all those true born christians who were raped, murdered, or molested as a child?

Fair enough, i suppose that all those kids that say that they were molested by priests must have been lying.
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10/24/2016 3:06:31 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 12:55:11 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:59:17 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

And what happens if God turns out to be Allah.

You certainly won't be getting even one virgin, let alone, 72.

Actually, muslims believe they will get endless virgins, because Allah supposedly restores their virginity. muslims will be allowed to indulge in anything they weren't allowed in this life.
Like, freedom to think for oneself?
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10/24/2016 1:51:56 PM
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At 10/24/2016 3:06:31 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/24/2016 12:55:11 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:59:17 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

And what happens if God turns out to be Allah.

You certainly won't be getting even one virgin, let alone, 72.

Actually, muslims believe they will get endless virgins, because Allah supposedly restores their virginity. muslims will be allowed to indulge in anything they weren't allowed in this life.
Like, freedom to think for oneself?

They believe they will be allowed to drink alcohol take drugs, have homosexual or heterosexual sex and sex with young children and so on.....
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10/24/2016 1:59:10 PM
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At 10/23/2016 2:38:56 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

Translation: "Those who believe as I believe will go to heaven"

We'll probably find most if not each and every believer will say this.

Saying it doesn't make it true.
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10/24/2016 2:01:36 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

And before you get too smug about your choice just consider the fact that different religious beliefs are globally dependent on geographical and cultural factors, informed choice has nothing to do with why you follow your particular God.

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

There are some lotteries with better odds at winning don't you think?

Have a good sleep now.

the odds of getting to heaven without God are astronomical...

so atheists ...SLEEP TIGHT..LOL
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10/24/2016 2:11:22 PM
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At 10/24/2016 2:01:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

And before you get too smug about your choice just consider the fact that different religious beliefs are globally dependent on geographical and cultural factors, informed choice has nothing to do with why you follow your particular God.

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

There are some lotteries with better odds at winning don't you think?

Have a good sleep now.

the odds of getting to heaven without God are astronomical...

so atheists ...SLEEP TIGHT..LOL
I'll give you very generous odds of 1000/1 but I require you to make a minimum wager of $100,000.
Do we have a bet?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/24/2016 4:02:34 PM
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At 10/24/2016 12:50:07 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:29:23 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

In other words a true born christian can break all the rules including rape, murder, child molestation, and who knows what else and still go to heaven?


No, a true born again Christian will not desire to do those things,



Isn't that a bit unfair to all those true born christians who were raped, murdered, or molested as a child?

People are not born Christians, it is a conscious decision to be "born again"
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10/24/2016 4:04:43 PM
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At 10/23/2016 2:41:36 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:40:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

So if a Christian murders 100 people they get to go to heaven? What a strange religion you have been tricked into believing by the environment you grew up in.

Don't forget, they have to say they were sorry for being bad before they can go to heaven

No, they have to truly repent of all sins.
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10/24/2016 4:07:36 PM
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At 10/24/2016 4:04:43 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 10/23/2016 2:41:36 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:40:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

So if a Christian murders 100 people they get to go to heaven? What a strange religion you have been tricked into believing by the environment you grew up in.

Don't forget, they have to say they were sorry for being bad before they can go to heaven

No, they have to truly repent of all sins.
I'm actually offering you odds. Put up your money and we've got a deal.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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10/24/2016 5:43:59 PM
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At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

And before you get too smug about your choice just consider the fact that different religious beliefs are globally dependent on geographical and cultural factors, informed choice has nothing to do with why you follow your particular God.


Informed choice has everything to do with why you follow the right God especially since their is only one true God

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

There are some lotteries with better odds at winning don't you think?

Have a good sleep now.

Narrow is the way and few that enter in.
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10/24/2016 9:14:43 PM
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At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

The others have nothing meaningful to say.

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

I believe in Bible God because of the Bible, not because I am hoping for some extra life after this.
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10/25/2016 7:25:27 AM
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At 10/24/2016 9:14:43 PM, 12_13 wrote:
At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

The others have nothing meaningful to say.

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

I believe in Bible God because of the Bible, not because I am hoping for some extra life after this.

How did you come to be a Christian?
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10/25/2016 7:29:08 AM
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At 10/24/2016 5:43:59 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

And before you get too smug about your choice just consider the fact that different religious beliefs are globally dependent on geographical and cultural factors, informed choice has nothing to do with why you follow your particular God.


Informed choice has everything to do with why you follow the right God especially since their is only one true God



Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

There are some lotteries with better odds at winning don't you think?

Have a good sleep now.

Narrow is the way and few that enter in.

Informed choice has everything to do with why I am an atheist.
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10/25/2016 7:49:22 AM
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At 10/24/2016 2:01:36 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 10/23/2016 12:49:08 PM, Willows wrote:
A thought for all religious followers here.

While saying your nightly prayers next time just consider whether you are praying to the right God.

At last count there are about 10,000 Gods in this world being worshiped, so how do you know that you are following and praying to the right one?

And before you get too smug about your choice just consider the fact that different religious beliefs are globally dependent on geographical and cultural factors, informed choice has nothing to do with why you follow your particular God.

Without even considering the vetting processes of each religious group, your chances of getting into heaven are 1/10,000.

There are some lotteries with better odds at winning don't you think?

Have a good sleep now.

the odds of getting to heaven without God are astronomical...

so atheists ...SLEEP TIGHT..LOL

And the odds of getting to heaven with belief in God is zilch.
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10/25/2016 7:51:16 AM
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At 10/24/2016 1:51:56 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 10/24/2016 3:06:31 AM, Willows wrote:
At 10/24/2016 12:55:11 AM, rnjs wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:59:17 PM, Willows wrote:
At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

And what happens if God turns out to be Allah.

You certainly won't be getting even one virgin, let alone, 72.

Actually, muslims believe they will get endless virgins, because Allah supposedly restores their virginity. muslims will be allowed to indulge in anything they weren't allowed in this life.
Like, freedom to think for oneself?

They believe they will be allowed to drink alcohol take drugs, have homosexual or heterosexual sex and sex with young children and so on.....

That's no different from what they do now anyway.
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10/25/2016 3:03:47 PM
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At 10/23/2016 1:18:37 PM, rnjs wrote:
The Christian God is unique among all of the alleged other gods in a number of ways so that all true born again Christians are assured of going to heaven.

Here's a big secret for you. Ssssh! Don't tell anyone. Everyone goes to Heaven. The Atheist goes to Heaven. The Gays goes to Heaven. Every sinner, sinning to their hearts content goes to Heaven. Lucifer is in Heaven. Jesus is in Heaven. I'm thinking Heaven is getting pretty crowded. I'm thinking I'll just go to hell.