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11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM
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Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/5/2016 10:12:11 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

Jesus Christ, you have a way with words.

God was an accident. His mommy had already given birth to 9,999 other Gods and didn't really plan on another.
So God jr., jr., jr., jr. (plus 9,996 more jrs.) hastily made a Boeing 747 out of scrap metal He found in a Heavenly junkyard and crashed it into one of His balls of playdough that He chucked out into space after having one of His temper fits.

Then, hey, dicky-diddo, life jumped out of the wreckage.

That's the Truth.
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11/5/2016 11:55:39 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/5/2016 10:12:11 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

Jesus Christ, you have a way with words.

God was an accident. His mommy had already given birth to 9,999 other Gods and didn't really plan on another.
So God jr., jr., jr., jr. (plus 9,996 more jrs.) hastily made a Boeing 747 out of scrap metal He found in a Heavenly junkyard and crashed it into one of His balls of playdough that He chucked out into space after having one of His temper fits.

Then, hey, dicky-diddo, life jumped out of the wreckage.

That's the Truth.
I am always open to the true believers.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.
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11/6/2016 6:29:09 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.

Except for the physics in your head that knows no mathematical boundaries. You have no problems calling someone a pig when the additions go marching down the orderly Chinese hysteria that becomes the total mass of your head, until the day comes when pigs can fly. What it's supposed to mean is the day will never come. It's not something I would say. I wouldn't say mathematics are natural laws. I would say pigs can already fly. If you can think it, it can exist. Mathematics exist in this world to define and confine us. The mathematics makes us less than what we already are. Limitations. Mathematics are a binding nuisance. Mathematics makes us stupid. Think about it. It's all you know. How can anyone know what it's like in other realities existing with distinct principles. I think there is a world where pigs can fly. I don't think they can do math well. But that's what allows them to fly.
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11/6/2016 6:34:45 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

God never came into existence, He always existed, even before time, in-fact He creates time, time only affects the physical world where things change, in the spiritual world everything is absolute and there is no change, everything is happening all at once.
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11/6/2016 6:59:52 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 6:29:09 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.

Except for the physics in your head that knows no mathematical boundaries. You have no problems calling someone a pig when the additions go marching down the orderly Chinese hysteria that becomes the total mass of your head, until the day comes when pigs can fly. What it's supposed to mean is the day will never come. It's not something I would say. I wouldn't say mathematics are natural laws. I would say pigs can already fly. If you can think it, it can exist. Mathematics exist in this world to define and confine us. The mathematics makes us less than what we already are. Limitations. Mathematics are a binding nuisance. Mathematics makes us stupid. Think about it. It's all you know. How can anyone know what it's like in other realities existing with distinct principles. I think there is a world where pigs can fly. I don't think they can do math well. But that's what allows them to fly.
I would be happy to take back calling you a pig if you apologize for your holocaust denile and homophobic threads. Its unfortunate ypu feel that way, as you are interesting otherwise. Moral character is more important than "interesting" in my book.
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11/6/2016 7:44:37 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 6:29:09 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.

Except for the physics in your head that knows no mathematical boundaries. You have no problems calling someone a pig when the additions go marching down the orderly Chinese hysteria that becomes the total mass of your head, until the day comes when pigs can fly. What it's supposed to mean is the day will never come. It's not something I would say. I wouldn't say mathematics are natural laws. I would say pigs can already fly. If you can think it, it can exist. Mathematics exist in this world to define and confine us. The mathematics makes us less than what we already are. Limitations. Mathematics are a binding nuisance. Mathematics makes us stupid. Think about it. It's all you know. How can anyone know what it's like in other realities existing with distinct principles. I think there is a world where pigs can fly. I don't think they can do math well. But that's what allows them to fly.

By the same token, anything goes and a monkey somewhere in the cosmos has, or is in the process of writing the complete works of Shakespeare on an Imperial typewriter.

But for those who choose to cast stones at others have to expect them to come back, quite often with interest added.
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11/6/2016 8:05:31 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 6:34:45 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

God never came into existence, He always existed, even before time, in-fact He creates time, time only affects the physical world where things change, in the spiritual world everything is absolute and there is no change, everything is happening all at once.
Yeah, random chance happenstance is just how it exists.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/6/2016 11:46:15 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 8:05:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:34:45 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

God never came into existence, He always existed, even before time, in-fact He creates time, time only affects the physical world where things change, in the spiritual world everything is absolute and there is no change, everything is happening all at once.
Yeah, random chance happenstance is just how it exists.

God doesn't come to be, God just is, He has no beginning and no end, in the material world everything begins to exist and therefore has an end to existence, God has no end, otherwise he wouldn't be God. It has nothing to do with chance.

But by using your own logic, if life can just happen happenstance, which you find so hard and unbelievable, then it can also happen to God. But philosophically this would defeat the whole concept of God, Therefore God just is.
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11/6/2016 12:16:03 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 11:46:15 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/6/2016 8:05:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:34:45 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

God never came into existence, He always existed, even before time, in-fact He creates time, time only affects the physical world where things change, in the spiritual world everything is absolute and there is no change, everything is happening all at once.
Yeah, random chance happenstance is just how it exists.

God doesn't come to be, God just is, He has no beginning and no end, in the material world everything begins to exist and therefore has an end to existence, God has no end, otherwise he wouldn't be God. It has nothing to do with chance.

But by using your own logic, if life can just happen happenstance, which you find so hard and unbelievable, then it can also happen to God. But philosophically this would defeat the whole concept of God, Therefore God just is.

That is a very lame explanation.
How would you, or anyone know or logically conclude that God just is and has always existed?
By the same token, I could just as easily and rightly claim that life always existed, therefore there was no need for a God to exist anyway.
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11/6/2016 12:56:34 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 11:46:15 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/6/2016 8:05:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:34:45 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

God never came into existence, He always existed, even before time, in-fact He creates time, time only affects the physical world where things change, in the spiritual world everything is absolute and there is no change, everything is happening all at once.
Yeah, random chance happenstance is just how it exists.

God doesn't come to be, God just is, He has no beginning and no end, in the material world everything begins to exist and therefore has an end to existence, God has no end, otherwise he wouldn't be God. It has nothing to do with chance.

But by using your own logic, if life can just happen happenstance, which you find so hard and unbelievable, then it can also happen to God. But philosophically this would defeat the whole concept of God, Therefore God just is.
You're not quite as sharp as a bowling ball but never the less what reason is there for your god to exist?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/6/2016 2:58:22 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 12:16:03 PM, Willows wrote:
At 11/6/2016 11:46:15 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/6/2016 8:05:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:34:45 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

God never came into existence, He always existed, even before time, in-fact He creates time, time only affects the physical world where things change, in the spiritual world everything is absolute and there is no change, everything is happening all at once.
Yeah, random chance happenstance is just how it exists.

God doesn't come to be, God just is, He has no beginning and no end, in the material world everything begins to exist and therefore has an end to existence, God has no end, otherwise he wouldn't be God. It has nothing to do with chance.

But by using your own logic, if life can just happen happenstance, which you find so hard and unbelievable, then it can also happen to God. But philosophically this would defeat the whole concept of God, Therefore God just is.

That is a very lame explanation.
How would you, or anyone know or logically conclude that God just is and has always existed?
By the same token, I could just as easily and rightly claim that life always existed, therefore there was no need for a God to exist anyway.

Then it works both ways, if life always existed it always existed, if life can just come about by chance, then also God can come about by chance.

But by definition, God has always existed and is not a material being but a spiritual being and is therefore not affected by the physical laws of material nature, such as mutability or age.
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11/6/2016 3:02:47 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 12:56:34 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 11:46:15 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/6/2016 8:05:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:34:45 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

God never came into existence, He always existed, even before time, in-fact He creates time, time only affects the physical world where things change, in the spiritual world everything is absolute and there is no change, everything is happening all at once.
Yeah, random chance happenstance is just how it exists.

God doesn't come to be, God just is, He has no beginning and no end, in the material world everything begins to exist and therefore has an end to existence, God has no end, otherwise he wouldn't be God. It has nothing to do with chance.

But by using your own logic, if life can just happen happenstance, which you find so hard and unbelievable, then it can also happen to God. But philosophically this would defeat the whole concept of God, Therefore God just is.
You're not quite as sharp as a bowling ball but never the less what reason is there for your god to exist?

Plenty of reasons, such as why is there something rather than nothing, and why does the universe seem to be fixed with laws that are detrimental to our existence? Maybe things are just the way they are or maybe there is a God who governs the laws, still they are reasons, and many others agree weather you do or not.
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11/6/2016 3:03:18 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

How ironic given that I recently saw this complaint:

http://www.debate.org...
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11/6/2016 3:05:34 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.

Except you cannot experimentally demonstrate these claims, it's rather different to physics.
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11/6/2016 3:08:20 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
Its ironic indeed that people complain in the science forum about "creationism" being mentioned there, yet here in this forum disputing creationism is a frequent theme.

http://www.debate.org...
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11/6/2016 3:29:20 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 3:02:47 PM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/6/2016 12:56:34 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 11:46:15 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/6/2016 8:05:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:34:45 AM, johnlubba wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

God never came into existence, He always existed, even before time, in-fact He creates time, time only affects the physical world where things change, in the spiritual world everything is absolute and there is no change, everything is happening all at once.
Yeah, random chance happenstance is just how it exists.

God doesn't come to be, God just is, He has no beginning and no end, in the material world everything begins to exist and therefore has an end to existence, God has no end, otherwise he wouldn't be God. It has nothing to do with chance.

But by using your own logic, if life can just happen happenstance, which you find so hard and unbelievable, then it can also happen to God. But philosophically this would defeat the whole concept of God, Therefore God just is.
You're not quite as sharp as a bowling ball but never the less what reason is there for your god to exist?

Plenty of reasons, such as why is there something rather than nothing, and why does the universe seem to be fixed with laws that are detrimental to our existence? Maybe things are just the way they are or maybe there is a God who governs the laws, still they are reasons, and many others agree weather you do or not.
Little one! I asked for the reason your god exists.
Your ifs, what's and maybes are the best you have I know.
How about if you find an answer that doesn't rely on your speculation?
Weather relates to climate.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/6/2016 3:31:53 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 3:08:20 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
Its ironic indeed that people complain in the science forum about "creationism" being mentioned there, yet here in this forum disputing creationism is a frequent theme.

http://www.debate.org...
That would be because creationism is based entirely on the wishful thinking of godists who lack the capacity for actual thinking.
Sad really.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/6/2016 3:32:23 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 3:08:20 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
Its ironic indeed that people complain in the science forum about "creationism" being mentioned there, yet here in this forum disputing creationism is a frequent theme.

http://www.debate.org...

This is the proper forum for the discussion of creationism and god-concepts.
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What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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11/6/2016 3:34:07 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 3:03:18 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

How ironic given that I recently saw this complaint:

http://www.debate.org...
To what complaint do you refer?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/6/2016 3:50:54 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 3:05:34 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.

Except you cannot experimentally demonstrate these claims, it's rather different to physics.

Oooo, the science denier creationist is rearing it's ignorant head. You've obviously never here of this place https://home.cern... so you may want to start educating yourself. Go back to high school and finish that first.
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11/6/2016 4:24:24 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 10:12:11 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

Jesus Christ, you have a way with words.

Yes Christ did have a way with words.

God was an accident. His mommy had already given birth to 9,999 other Gods and didn't really plan on another.
So God jr., jr., jr., jr. (plus 9,996 more jrs.) hastily made a Boeing 747 out of scrap metal He found in a Heavenly junkyard and crashed it into one of His balls of playdough that He chucked out into space after having one of His temper fits.

Then, hey, dicky-diddo, life jumped out of the wreckage.

That's the Truth.

How do you know it's true?
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11/6/2016 6:42:13 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 7:44:37 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:29:09 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.

Except for the physics in your head that knows no mathematical boundaries. You have no problems calling someone a pig when the additions go marching down the orderly Chinese hysteria that becomes the total mass of your head, until the day comes when pigs can fly. What it's supposed to mean is the day will never come. It's not something I would say. I wouldn't say mathematics are natural laws. I would say pigs can already fly. If you can think it, it can exist. Mathematics exist in this world to define and confine us. The mathematics makes us less than what we already are. Limitations. Mathematics are a binding nuisance. Mathematics makes us stupid. Think about it. It's all you know. How can anyone know what it's like in other realities existing with distinct principles. I think there is a world where pigs can fly. I don't think they can do math well. But that's what allows them to fly.

By the same token, anything goes and a monkey somewhere in the cosmos has, or is in the process of writing the complete works of Shakespeare on an Imperial typewriter.

But for those who choose to cast stones at others have to expect them to come back, quite often with interest added.

Go fish. Fishing for an array of empty insults will never even the score. Some people simply know what time it is.
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11/6/2016 6:54:04 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 3:05:34 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.

Except you cannot experimentally demonstrate these claims, it's rather different to physics.
How? Living things are made of atoms and molecules. Why wouldnt they obey the laws of physics?
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11/6/2016 6:55:29 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

Ok smart guy, tell us your version.
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11/6/2016 6:57:14 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 6:55:29 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

Ok smart guy, tell us your version.
hahahahaha
Read.
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11/6/2016 7:05:46 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 6:57:14 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:55:29 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

Ok smart guy, tell us your version.
hahahahaha
Read.

No, you, as usual use sarcasm to mask your stupidity and lack of any knowledge.
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11/6/2016 7:25:24 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 6:59:52 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:29:09 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:41:09 AM, janesix wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.
Life is the result of natural laws, fields and mathematical laws. It is no different from physics.

Except for the physics in your head that knows no mathematical boundaries. You have no problems calling someone a pig when the additions go marching down the orderly Chinese hysteria that becomes the total mass of your head, until the day comes when pigs can fly. What it's supposed to mean is the day will never come. It's not something I would say. I wouldn't say mathematics are natural laws. I would say pigs can already fly. If you can think it, it can exist. Mathematics exist in this world to define and confine us. The mathematics makes us less than what we already are. Limitations. Mathematics are a binding nuisance. Mathematics makes us stupid. Think about it. It's all you know. How can anyone know what it's like in other realities existing with distinct principles. I think there is a world where pigs can fly. I don't think they can do math well. But that's what allows them to fly.
I would be happy to take back calling you a pig if you apologize for your holocaust denile and homophobic threads. Its unfortunate ypu feel that way, as you are interesting otherwise. Moral character is more important than "interesting" in my book.

I will not apologize for walking on the rivers that has become for you the entrances of sunken truths. My truths are good as rain. You can only squeal. That's what a hippo does. They talk like pigs but act like hippopotamuses. I don't know if a hippopotamus is from the species of hypocrites. At least they sound the same. How stupid is this? Stupid enough to become relatable, I guess. I can make another guess. I'm guessing those moon people are lunatics. It's a little bit more than a guess. It's almost a confirmation.
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11/7/2016 6:53:08 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 4:24:24 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 11/5/2016 10:12:11 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:49:01 AM, bulproof wrote:
Because a magician who came together by random chance happenstance magiced it into existence.

Jesus Christ, you have a way with words.


Yes Christ did have a way with words.



God was an accident. His mommy had already given birth to 9,999 other Gods and didn't really plan on another.
So God jr., jr., jr., jr. (plus 9,996 more jrs.) hastily made a Boeing 747 out of scrap metal He found in a Heavenly junkyard and crashed it into one of His balls of playdough that He chucked out into space after having one of His temper fits.

Then, hey, dicky-diddo, life jumped out of the wreckage.

That's the Truth.

How do you know it's true?

Because the Truth is everything and I know the Truth therefore it's True.