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11/5/2016 7:47:53 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

And turned into waffers.
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11/5/2016 7:54:43 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Why did Christ need to take his body ?

No one else does.
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11/5/2016 7:55:00 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 7:47:53 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

And turned into waffers.

Umm, not quite, but i guess you would have to call up God to prove that once he went into heaven he did not miraculously turn into waffers (cookies?)
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11/5/2016 7:56:47 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 7:54:43 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Why did Christ need to take his body ?

No one else does.

Not yet, but we will, oh yes, we will.
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11/5/2016 8:48:22 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 7:54:43 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Why did Christ need to take his body ?

No one else does.

HEY! If all the holy relics that went around in the middle-ages were genuine, Jesus must have had twenty fingers on each hand!
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11/5/2016 9:16:12 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 8:48:22 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:54:43 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Why did Christ need to take his body ?

No one else does.

HEY! If all the holy relics that went around in the middle-ages were genuine, Jesus must have had twenty fingers on each hand!

Spirit fingers
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11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!
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11/5/2016 11:02:31 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Ah yeah, almost as good as islam and the nutjob Muhammad going to a cave, hallucinating and creating a new religion
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11/6/2016 1:15:11 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yeah, except, you forgot to include that a whole platoon of Roman soldiers were guarding that body for fear that the apostles would steal the body and claim Christ rose from the dead. Woops, did i just make a joke out of your argument? Great history accept it is completely flawed!
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11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."
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11/6/2016 2:00:50 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 8:48:22 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:54:43 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Why did Christ need to take his body ?

No one else does.

HEY! If all the holy relics that went around in the middle-ages were genuine, Jesus must have had twenty fingers on each hand!

Funny, only, nobody has found any of His fingers. The only thing we have it the shroud that was wrapped around Christ's body in the tomb.
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11/6/2016 1:35:39 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 11:02:31 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Ah yeah, almost as good as islam and the nutjob Muhammad going to a cave, hallucinating and creating a new religion

It was worse. Christians claim Jesus was God. Which God would allow to be mocked, beaten, ridiculed and finally crucified? They continue to mock Jesus by displaying the manner of his death in their homes and as trinkets nailed to a cross.
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11/6/2016 1:45:45 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 1:15:11 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yeah, except, you forgot to include that a whole platoon of Roman soldiers were guarding that body for fear that the apostles would steal the body and claim Christ rose from the dead. Woops, did i just make a joke out of your argument? Great history accept it is completely flawed!

There are different accounts about his disappearance. Only the owner of the tomb had the right to vacate it. He vacated Jesus from the tomb once he found out Jesus was a fake.
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11/6/2016 1:49:25 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."

Jesus was a notorious liar. You can read about it here.
Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
http://www.debate.org...
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11/6/2016 1:49:54 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 11:02:31 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Ah yeah, almost as good as islam and the nutjob Muhammad going to a cave, hallucinating and creating a new religion

then why don't you follow that new religion?
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11/6/2016 4:28:24 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 1:49:54 PM, uncung wrote:
At 11/5/2016 11:02:31 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Ah yeah, almost as good as islam and the nutjob Muhammad going to a cave, hallucinating and creating a new religion

then why don't you follow that new religion?

Cause it's just as crazy as every other religion?
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11/6/2016 4:55:19 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 4:28:24 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:54 PM, uncung wrote:
At 11/5/2016 11:02:31 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Ah yeah, almost as good as islam and the nutjob Muhammad going to a cave, hallucinating and creating a new religion

then why don't you follow that new religion?

Cause it's just as crazy as every other religion?

why don't you follow that crazy religion?
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11/6/2016 5:20:15 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 4:55:19 PM, uncung wrote:
At 11/6/2016 4:28:24 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:54 PM, uncung wrote:
At 11/5/2016 11:02:31 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Ah yeah, almost as good as islam and the nutjob Muhammad going to a cave, hallucinating and creating a new religion

then why don't you follow that new religion?

Cause it's just as crazy as every other religion?

why don't you follow that crazy religion?

Because I don't see any benefits of religion
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11/6/2016 5:29:02 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!
It went up into the clouds where heaven is, haven't you read the book?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/6/2016 6:08:46 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 5:20:15 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/6/2016 4:55:19 PM, uncung wrote:
At 11/6/2016 4:28:24 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:54 PM, uncung wrote:
At 11/5/2016 11:02:31 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Ah yeah, almost as good as islam and the nutjob Muhammad going to a cave, hallucinating and creating a new religion

then why don't you follow that new religion?

Cause it's just as crazy as every other religion?

why don't you follow that crazy religion?

Because I don't see any benefits of religion

what benefit do you want from religion?
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11/6/2016 6:09:14 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!
Jesus was Glorified .. Meaning he had a perfect body, could walk through walls and rise up into heaven in bodily form!

Jesus is in heaven offering to God his sacrifice for our sins! He is "High Priest" all priests need a sacrifice, in Jesus' case it is his own blood and body he offers to God FOREVER! A perpetual sacrifice continually being offered... He died one time the offering of body and blood continues! All priests need a offering, Jesus' priests are Jesus' hands here on earth. Jesus' offering continues on earth as it does in heaven through his priests!

Hebrews 3:1
[ Jesus Greater Than Moses ] Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest.

Hebrews 5:1
Every high priest is selected from among the people and is appointed to represent the people in matters related to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.

Hebrews 6:20
where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.

Hebrews 9:25
Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own.
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11/6/2016 6:21:09 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 1:49:25 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."

Jesus was a notorious liar. You can read about it here.
Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
http://www.debate.org...

I wouldn't be bragging that thread up if I was you, as the only thing proven was that you are a liar, but whatever. Your life.
Wisdom is found where the wise seek it.
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11/6/2016 9:00:11 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 6:21:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:25 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."

Jesus was a notorious liar. You can read about it here.
Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
http://www.debate.org...

I wouldn't be bragging that thread up if I was you, as the only thing proven was that you are a liar, but whatever. Your life.

The evidence that Jesus was a liar and lunatic is backed by scriptures. If you believe the bible you must conclude what it said about Jesus was true. And the scriptures tell us Jesus was considered by many to be a liar and a lunatic.
It was not customary to crucify liars and lunatics during Jesus's time in history. But Jesus was a blasphemous liar and a lunatic. That was punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."
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11/6/2016 11:27:49 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 9:00:11 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:21:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:25 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."

Jesus was a notorious liar. You can read about it here.
Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
http://www.debate.org...

I wouldn't be bragging that thread up if I was you, as the only thing proven was that you are a liar, but whatever. Your life.

The evidence that Jesus was a liar and lunatic is backed by scriptures. If you believe the bible you must conclude what it said about Jesus was true. And the scriptures tell us Jesus was considered by many to be a liar and a lunatic.
It was not customary to crucify liars and lunatics during Jesus's time in history. But Jesus was a blasphemous liar and a lunatic. That was punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."

I don't believe in perfection of the Bible. You got called out in your forum, and not in a small way.
Wisdom is found where the wise seek it.
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11/7/2016 12:09:50 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 11:27:49 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 9:00:11 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:21:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:25 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."

Jesus was a notorious liar. You can read about it here.
Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
http://www.debate.org...

I wouldn't be bragging that thread up if I was you, as the only thing proven was that you are a liar, but whatever. Your life.

The evidence that Jesus was a liar and lunatic is backed by scriptures. If you believe the bible you must conclude what it said about Jesus was true. And the scriptures tell us Jesus was considered by many to be a liar and a lunatic.
It was not customary to crucify liars and lunatics during Jesus's time in history. But Jesus was a blasphemous liar and a lunatic. That was punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."

I don't believe in perfection of the Bible. You got called out in your forum, and not in a small way.

If you do not believe the bible is accurate then you are casting doubt on the people who wrote it. I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition. I was trained in the reading of esoteric scriptures, Christian Theology and Islamic fundamentalism. I am most qualified to share the scriptures as it it revealed to me from reading the bible. You can discard the less qualified opinions from your average Christian who is scripturally illiterate.
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11/7/2016 12:19:10 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/7/2016 12:09:50 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 11:27:49 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 9:00:11 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:21:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:25 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."

Jesus was a notorious liar. You can read about it here.
Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
http://www.debate.org...

I wouldn't be bragging that thread up if I was you, as the only thing proven was that you are a liar, but whatever. Your life.

The evidence that Jesus was a liar and lunatic is backed by scriptures. If you believe the bible you must conclude what it said about Jesus was true. And the scriptures tell us Jesus was considered by many to be a liar and a lunatic.
It was not customary to crucify liars and lunatics during Jesus's time in history. But Jesus was a blasphemous liar and a lunatic. That was punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."

I don't believe in perfection of the Bible. You got called out in your forum, and not in a small way.

If you do not believe the bible is accurate then you are casting doubt on the people who wrote it. I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition. I was trained in the reading of esoteric scriptures, Christian Theology and Islamic fundamentalism. I am most qualified to share the scriptures as it it revealed to me from reading the bible. You can discard the less qualified opinions from your average Christian who is scripturally illiterate.

The authors of my available text, yes.
Wisdom is found where the wise seek it.
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11/7/2016 1:23:00 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/6/2016 9:00:11 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:21:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:25 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."

Jesus was a notorious liar. You can read about it here.
Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
http://www.debate.org...

I wouldn't be bragging that thread up if I was you, as the only thing proven was that you are a liar, but whatever. Your life.

The evidence that Jesus was a liar and lunatic is backed by scriptures. If you believe the bible you must conclude what it said about Jesus was true. And the scriptures tell us Jesus was considered by many to be a liar and a lunatic.
It was not customary to crucify liars and lunatics during Jesus's time in history. But Jesus was a blasphemous liar and a lunatic. That was punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."

Tell me, why an infraction of hebrew law was punished by romans? It was because the hebrews knew that not only was christ smarter than them, but also he was fulfilling all of the prophesies, and so they told pilate he would be committing treason not to put this king to death. Read first, accuse later. The fact is that Christ really was God, and no amount of blathering on the part of atheists will change that. You can complain and lie all you want, but that won't change history. There have bee10s of 1,000s of miracles performed in the name of christ, and few of them can be explained away. (eucharistic miracles, fatima, lourdes, vincent ferer, and so on)
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11/7/2016 1:34:02 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/7/2016 12:19:10 AM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/7/2016 12:09:50 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 11:27:49 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 9:00:11 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 6:21:09 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 11/6/2016 1:49:25 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/6/2016 2:00:46 AM, Pigney wrote:
At 11/5/2016 9:54:13 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 11/5/2016 7:46:09 PM, Pigney wrote:
Let us see? Oh yeah, not in the tomb, but risen into heaven, alleluia!

Jesus died a pauper. He never held a job or married. He was even buried in a borrowed tomb. The owner of the tomb had Jesus vacated after he discovered Jesus was a fake. When the women went to the tomb to see Jesus. They found it had been vacated. Only the owner could order a tomb to be vacated.
There were several sightings of Jesus wandering around like a ghost drained of blood and wearing disguise. Where was the celebration with the fulfillment of the prophesues? The Romans would have been scared out of their skin seeing Jesus return to possibly punish them. Or the Jews would have recognized Jesus and sought forgiveness for rejecting him. But nothing of that sort happened. Jesus slipped away into oblivion like a thief fades in the dark.
Jesus said all authority was given to him over heaven and earth according to the scriptures. But the disciples were all eventually put to death, the temple destroyed and the people he was sent to save slaughtered.
The Romans went on to build the Church of Rome I.e. Roman Catholic Church. The Romans built the Roman Catholic Church for the Gentiles. The Romans did for the Gentiles what Jesus and God could not do for the Jews.
To add insult to injury the Romans hung the corpse of Jesus nailed to a wooden cross on all the churches and building to mark the church that Rome built and put the Pope as the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Awesome history!!

Yup, only Christ prophesied all the true stuff you stated, and i need not enumerate the lies because anyone who knows anything knows that about half of what you said were malicious lies made simply to irritate those who actually know the truth. ie the tomb was vacated by the owner HAHA, and the platoon of roman soldiers guarding the tomb bowed to the tomb owner and said "Yes of course master tomb owner."

Jesus was a notorious liar. You can read about it here.
Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
http://www.debate.org...

I wouldn't be bragging that thread up if I was you, as the only thing proven was that you are a liar, but whatever. Your life.

The evidence that Jesus was a liar and lunatic is backed by scriptures. If you believe the bible you must conclude what it said about Jesus was true. And the scriptures tell us Jesus was considered by many to be a liar and a lunatic.
It was not customary to crucify liars and lunatics during Jesus's time in history. But Jesus was a blasphemous liar and a lunatic. That was punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."

I don't believe in perfection of the Bible. You got called out in your forum, and not in a small way.

If you do not believe the bible is accurate then you are casting doubt on the people who wrote it. I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition. I was trained in the reading of esoteric scriptures, Christian Theology and Islamic fundamentalism. I am most qualified to share the scriptures as it it revealed to me from reading the bible. You can discard the less qualified opinions from your average Christian who is scripturally illiterate.

The authors of my available text, yes.

The people too were surprised Jesus surrounded himself with unschooled illiterates. It is the same reason Christians continue to promote unschooled illiterates as leaders.

Acts 4:13 When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus.