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Science DOESN'T DISPROVE religion or God

imperialchimp
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11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.
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Dogknox
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11/10/2016 5:17:41 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

NOPE... Logic says.. "God is PERFECT"!

God is LOVE he lets us do all we want... He judges us by our hearts!
Skepticalone
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11/10/2016 5:36:09 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

Agreed, and science can disprove religious claims that give reasonable expectation for evidence.
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11/10/2016 7:45:23 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 5:17:41 AM, Dogknox wrote:
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

NOPE... Logic says.. "God is PERFECT"!
Logic can't even say gods exist.

God is LOVE he lets us do all we want... He judges us by our hearts!
Genocide and infanticide are not demonstrations of love and only the supremely deluded could make your claim.
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11/10/2016 9:45:23 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

Science has already irrefutably proven that that life was not created therefore ruling out the remotest possibility of the existence of God.
Benshapiro
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11/10/2016 11:12:30 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 9:45:23 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

Science has already irrefutably proven that that life was not created therefore ruling out the remotest possibility of the existence of God.

Science doesn't irrefutably prove anything. Science is inferential. You think abiogenesis has been irrefutably proven? Nothing could be further from the truth. There's not even an "adequate" theory of the origin of life under naturalism. The reason is because there's no explanation, thus far, of any mechanism that accounts for the origin of genetic information. Also, even if it were true that life arose through purely accidental and mindless processes, it wouldn't mean that there wasn't a creator of the universe. It would depend on how you define God.
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11/10/2016 12:07:53 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 5:17:41 AM, Dogknox wrote:
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

NOPE... Logic says.. "God is PERFECT"!

God is LOVE he lets us do all we want... He judges us by our hearts!

The god of the Bible is psycho!
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11/10/2016 3:50:00 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 11:12:30 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/10/2016 9:45:23 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

Science has already irrefutably proven that that life was not created therefore ruling out the remotest possibility of the existence of God.

Science doesn't irrefutably prove anything. Science is inferential. You think abiogenesis has been irrefutably proven? Nothing could be further from the truth. There's not even an "adequate" theory of the origin of life under naturalism. The reason is because there's no explanation, thus far, of any mechanism that accounts for the origin of genetic information. Also, even if it were true that life arose through purely accidental and mindless processes, it wouldn't mean that there wasn't a creator of the universe. It would depend on how you define God.

Based on that last sentence, you got nothing, Ben. You can't even define on what it is you base your assertions and you believers have had centuries to do that. Scientists have had only a very short time to define how humans emerged and are getting closer to an answer on defining our origins.

Can you not see you're merely hanging on to a failed ideology simply because you were brought up to believe it?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
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11/10/2016 5:17:52 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 12:07:53 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 11/10/2016 5:17:41 AM, Dogknox wrote:
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

NOPE... Logic says.. "God is PERFECT"!

God is LOVE he lets us do all we want... He judges us by our hearts!

The god of the Bible is psycho!

tarantula I hope all is well..
I reply: God created everything.. Including you! The bible points out the many selfish, greedy, proud, self-righteous people in our history it shows how God selvages mankind from it's own evils! For example; God saved the people of Moses from Pharaoh and slavery then no sooner after their rescue they complain to Moses; they want to return to slavery because they had more to eat! THEN..
tarantula then God supplied them with "Manna" food to eat, for forty years!

Fact is God is "LOVE".
1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
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1 John 4:16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.

tarantula one more point.. Satan HATES YOU!! Take your pick LOVE or Hate!
Benshapiro
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11/10/2016 6:15:42 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 3:50:00 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/10/2016 11:12:30 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/10/2016 9:45:23 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

Science has already irrefutably proven that that life was not created therefore ruling out the remotest possibility of the existence of God.

Science doesn't irrefutably prove anything. Science is inferential. You think abiogenesis has been irrefutably proven? Nothing could be further from the truth. There's not even an "adequate" theory of the origin of life under naturalism. The reason is because there's no explanation, thus far, of any mechanism that accounts for the origin of genetic information. Also, even if it were true that life arose through purely accidental and mindless processes, it wouldn't mean that there wasn't a creator of the universe. It would depend on how you define God.

Based on that last sentence, you got nothing, Ben. You can't even define on what it is you base your assertions and you believers have had centuries to do that. Scientists have had only a very short time to define how humans emerged and are getting closer to an answer on defining our origins.

Can you not see you're merely hanging on to a failed ideology simply because you were brought up to believe it?

Why are you imitating RuvDraba? We can define God. We just need to have an agreed upon definition before arguing whether or not God exists. People do this regularly for other well-established terms. It's just a standard when debating something to define your terms. Your question is loaded. How do you know I was brought up to believe anything?
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11/10/2016 7:13:41 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/10/2016 6:15:42 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/10/2016 3:50:00 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/10/2016 11:12:30 AM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/10/2016 9:45:23 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/10/2016 2:47:04 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
Though logic can disprove an omnipotent god.

Science has already irrefutably proven that that life was not created therefore ruling out the remotest possibility of the existence of God.

Science doesn't irrefutably prove anything. Science is inferential. You think abiogenesis has been irrefutably proven? Nothing could be further from the truth. There's not even an "adequate" theory of the origin of life under naturalism. The reason is because there's no explanation, thus far, of any mechanism that accounts for the origin of genetic information. Also, even if it were true that life arose through purely accidental and mindless processes, it wouldn't mean that there wasn't a creator of the universe. It would depend on how you define God.

Based on that last sentence, you got nothing, Ben. You can't even define on what it is you base your assertions and you believers have had centuries to do that. Scientists have had only a very short time to define how humans emerged and are getting closer to an answer on defining our origins.

Can you not see you're merely hanging on to a failed ideology simply because you were brought up to believe it?

Why are you imitating RuvDraba?

THAT was a huge compliment. Thank you, Ben!

We can define God. We just need to have an agreed upon definition before arguing whether or not God exists.

But, don't you see, Ben, that if we have to first try to define something that has never been shown to exist, we fail from the get go. We might as well try to agree on what a troll eats for breakfast. It's all complete speculation, Ben. Why would anyone wish to pursue such an avenue of futility, if not for just mindless amusement?

People do this regularly for other well-established terms. It's just a standard when debating something to define your terms. Your question is loaded. How do you know I was brought up to believe anything?

Fair enough, you start with your first draft of basic characteristics and traits and we'll go from there. Personally, my imagination could come up with as many gods as there are galaxies. The list is literally endless. You'll have me writing this out for hours until I drop from exhaustion. So, it's best you go first.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth