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KwLm
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11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place
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11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?
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11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?
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11/11/2016 11:19:39 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?

Maybe god doesnt want to be worshipped.
Maybe god likes to see us fight.
Maybe god doesnt care.
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11/11/2016 11:22:32 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?

That does not disprove god at all.

How about this. If god can do anything (other than "evil" or "sinful" things), can he correctly answer a question without giving the correct answer?
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11/11/2016 11:28:37 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

It's called a free will universe. I expect that to go way over your head.
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11/11/2016 11:45:04 PM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:28:37 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

It's called a free will universe. I expect that to go way over your head.

There is no free will if you believe a god created everything
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11/12/2016 12:01:41 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

Because just because God is incredibly powerful doesn't mean he is going to make people believe in him. If you are going to make an argument against Christianity you are going to have to phrase it much better than this.
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11/12/2016 12:03:37 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?

Because he wanted to create intelligent being with free will who think for themselves and can question. Its the same reason many parent are fine with raising children who think for themselves.
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11/12/2016 12:04:43 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:45:04 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:28:37 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

It's called a free will universe. I expect that to go way over your head.

There is no free will if you believe a god created everything

Free will means the ability to make your own choices. How is it impossible for a God to create beings who make their own choices?
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11/12/2016 12:10:13 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:01:41 AM, distraff wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

Because just because God is incredibly powerful doesn't mean he is going to make people believe in him. If you are going to make an argument against Christianity you are going to have to phrase it much better than this.

I don't believe I do, seeing as this new God is quite the jealous one, if it were real, and it omnipotent and omniscient and all that jazz, why would it need prophets and other nutcases to prove its existence, just for atheists to argue against them, the whole thing, it's just supremely illogical
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11/12/2016 12:11:18 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:03:37 AM, distraff wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?

Because he wanted to create intelligent being with free will who think for themselves and can question. Its the same reason many parent are fine with raising children who think for themselves.

Are you guessing or do you have proof for this claim?
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11/12/2016 12:13:59 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:22:32 PM, imperialchimp wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?

That does not disprove god at all.

How about this. If god can do anything (other than "evil" or "sinful" things), can he correctly answer a question without giving the correct answer?

Answering a question without giving the correct answer is called giving the wrong answer to the question, your question makes no sense.
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11/12/2016 12:20:02 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:10:13 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:01:41 AM, distraff wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

Because just because God is incredibly powerful doesn't mean he is going to make people believe in him. If you are going to make an argument against Christianity you are going to have to phrase it much better than this.

I don't believe I do, seeing as this new God is quite the jealous one, if it were real, and it omnipotent and omniscient and all that jazz, why would it need prophets and other nutcases to prove its existence, just for atheists to argue against them, the whole thing, it's just supremely illogical

Now we got ourselves a good point. You should have opened with this.

According to the bible this world is a test. If God made his existence known too obviously then that would have greatly interfered with the test. People since they knew as a logical fact that God exists would try their best to obey him just like they obey the government and pay taxes.
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11/12/2016 12:21:24 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:11:18 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:03:37 AM, distraff wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?

Because he wanted to create intelligent being with free will who think for themselves and can question. Its the same reason many parent are fine with raising children who think for themselves.

Are you guessing or do you have proof for this claim?

I am saying it is possible God would want to make intelligent free thinking beings. You are saying God doesn't exist so the burden of proof is on you to show he wouldn't want to make free thinking beings.
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11/12/2016 12:45:40 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

Because you have free will and thus freedom of thought.
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11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.
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11/12/2016 1:23:11 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:13:59 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:22:32 PM, imperialchimp wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?

That does not disprove god at all.

How about this. If god can do anything (other than "evil" or "sinful" things), can he correctly answer a question without giving the correct answer?

Answering a question without giving the correct answer is called giving the wrong answer to the question, your question makes no sense.

Exactly! It's impossible and illogical. So therefore, God cannot do anything. But god is defined as being able to do anything. Therefore, god doesn't exist.
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What if I were to tell you that humans have false logic? Prepare for confusion.

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11/12/2016 8:04:22 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 1:23:11 AM, imperialchimp wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:13:59 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:22:32 PM, imperialchimp wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:15:50 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/11/2016 11:10:34 PM, Benshapiro wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

So if someone believes that God doesn't exist, this somehow shows that God doesn't exist?

Not quite, If the God is so powerful and created everything then why would it create things that would argue it doesn't exist, ever thought about that?

That does not disprove god at all.

How about this. If god can do anything (other than "evil" or "sinful" things), can he correctly answer a question without giving the correct answer?

Answering a question without giving the correct answer is called giving the wrong answer to the question, your question makes no sense.

Exactly! It's impossible and illogical. So therefore, God cannot do anything. But god is defined as being able to do anything. Therefore, god doesn't exist.

Ahha, I see, now that makes sense.
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11/12/2016 8:08:18 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

To bring naive, gullible, deluded theists back down to earth.
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11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.
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11/12/2016 12:14:02 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

Finally, the truth was spoken.
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11/12/2016 12:15:56 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.

Yes, it is the same thing. You gave an argument that supports the claim you are trying to refute, how funny is that?
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11/12/2016 12:18:08 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:15:56 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.

Yes, it is the same thing. You gave an argument that supports the claim you are trying to refute, how funny is that?

How does that support the claim? If you mean by the claim the "God" is only real in the psychosis of the brain ie: the imagination then sure, I can go with that, but God does not exist in reality.
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11/12/2016 12:21:19 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:18:08 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:15:56 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.

Yes, it is the same thing. You gave an argument that supports the claim you are trying to refute, how funny is that?

How does that support the claim? If you mean by the claim the "God" is only real in the psychosis of the brain ie: the imagination then sure, I can go with that, but God does not exist in reality.

Yes, in the imagination. But you don't know if God exists or not, objectively.
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11/12/2016 12:30:12 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:21:19 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:18:08 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:15:56 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.

Yes, it is the same thing. You gave an argument that supports the claim you are trying to refute, how funny is that?

How does that support the claim? If you mean by the claim the "God" is only real in the psychosis of the brain ie: the imagination then sure, I can go with that, but God does not exist in reality.

Yes, in the imagination. But you don't know if God exists or not, objectively.
Tell me something objectively true and how you know?
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11/12/2016 12:38:31 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:30:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:21:19 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:18:08 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:15:56 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.

Yes, it is the same thing. You gave an argument that supports the claim you are trying to refute, how funny is that?

How does that support the claim? If you mean by the claim the "God" is only real in the psychosis of the brain ie: the imagination then sure, I can go with that, but God does not exist in reality.

Yes, in the imagination. But you don't know if God exists or not, objectively.
Tell me something objectively true and how you know?

You can't know.
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11/12/2016 12:43:27 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:38:31 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:30:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:21:19 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:18:08 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:15:56 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.

Yes, it is the same thing. You gave an argument that supports the claim you are trying to refute, how funny is that?

How does that support the claim? If you mean by the claim the "God" is only real in the psychosis of the brain ie: the imagination then sure, I can go with that, but God does not exist in reality.

Yes, in the imagination. But you don't know if God exists or not, objectively.
Tell me something objectively true and how you know?

You can't know.
Well done poor little thing. bahahahaha.
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11/12/2016 1:15:53 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:38:31 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:30:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:21:19 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:18:08 PM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:15:56 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.

Yes, it is the same thing. You gave an argument that supports the claim you are trying to refute, how funny is that?

How does that support the claim? If you mean by the claim the "God" is only real in the psychosis of the brain ie: the imagination then sure, I can go with that, but God does not exist in reality.

Yes, in the imagination. But you don't know if God exists or not, objectively.
Tell me something objectively true and how you know?

You can't know.

Well objectively speaking, the sky is green
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11/12/2016 2:07:45 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:15:56 PM, gilkai wrote:
At 11/12/2016 9:13:24 AM, KwLm wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:59:11 AM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:31:12 PM, KwLm wrote:
If the "God" theists believe in was so incredibly and infinitely powerful, then why are there atheists in the first place

God only exists if you want him in your life.

That is the exact same thing as saying Slender man only exists if you are afraid of him. Or a three headed mini dragon that's invisible is flying over my head because I want it in my life.

Yes, it is the same thing. You gave an argument that supports the claim you are trying to refute, how funny is that?

Perceptions are always a funny thing when it sees itself as the only thing that matters. It doesn't matter what the topic of discussion becomes. The perception always comes first. The perception will talk before it listens because it doesn't know how to listen to anything different than what it knows. It only knows that it is right, even when something seen wrong is saying the same thing. The survival of the ego survives for as long as it can continue to eat itself, because in itself is the only thing that exists.