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janesix
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11/11/2016 10:57:07 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Sure. I dont like muslims. Or christians..
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11/11/2016 11:02:52 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:57:07 PM, janesix wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Sure. I dont like muslims. Or christians..

that's cool, I think you should have the right to say so...

but it seems in this world you cannot say it out loud in fear of upsetting someone...
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11/11/2016 11:06:59 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Sure you should and can say it. The problem is; it paints all Muslims with the same brush. It's probably better and more accurate to say " I don't like the religion of Islam"
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11/11/2016 11:10:17 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Sure you should be able to say it. It is every person's inalienable right to be a dill by liking/disliking someone on the basis of their delusions. (Says he, having just read yet another senseless rant by a Muslim). It is (and I'm not sure I quite get this) actually possible to be a nice person despite holding the most ridiculous and ungenerous beliefs - check out a local church some time, odds are if it's big enough, you'll find a few quite nice people there.
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11/12/2016 4:56:33 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...
Why are you afraid of absolutely everything.
The indoctrination of irrational fear has been more than successful with you.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.

Nor does any religious group like any other religious group.

Nor does any denomination within religious groups like other denominations.

Nor does any member of a religious denomination like anybody else.

So what's new?

Religion....the most self-centred, egotistical, spiteful, hateful institution ever invented.
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11/12/2016 12:08:41 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.
Actually people mostly like other people, the haters are very different but they are the ones we need to eradicate. Are you one?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/12/2016 12:10:41 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:08:41 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.
Actually people mostly like other people, the haters are very different but they are the ones we need to eradicate. Are you one?

No, because I don't subscribe to a religious faith.
bulproof
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11/12/2016 12:32:16 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:10:41 PM, Willows wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:08:41 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.
Actually people mostly like other people, the haters are very different but they are the ones we need to eradicate. Are you one?

No, because I don't subscribe to a religious faith.
That's irrelevant.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
Willows
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11/12/2016 1:48:28 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 12:32:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:10:41 PM, Willows wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:08:41 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.
Actually people mostly like other people, the haters are very different but they are the ones we need to eradicate. Are you one?

No, because I don't subscribe to a religious faith.
That's irrelevant.

Perfectly relevant...where does most of the hate and violence in this world emanate from?
Religion.
PureX
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11/12/2016 2:13:26 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
Should you be able to say "I don't like muslims""?

Only if you wish to appear foolish. Because such a statement indicates that you have not bothered to consider that there are billions of Muslims on the planet, within many different cultures, and you don't know more than a handful of them.

Secondly, you are defining and condemning people based on their religion, and there is a lot more to any human being than their religion.

So that such a statement would only serve to express your own ignorance, arrogance, and neglect.

(The "you" is generic, here.)
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11/12/2016 2:17:56 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:57:07 PM, janesix wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Sure. I dont like muslims. Or christians..

Maybe you hate yourself instead, considering the good verses the bad people see in the world becomes an accurate reflection of the way they perceive themselves.
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11/12/2016 2:32:04 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 1:48:28 PM, Willows wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:32:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:10:41 PM, Willows wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:08:41 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.
Actually people mostly like other people, the haters are very different but they are the ones we need to eradicate. Are you one?

No, because I don't subscribe to a religious faith.
That's irrelevant.

Perfectly relevant...where does most of the hate and violence in this world emanate from?
Religion.
Humans.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
tarantula
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11/12/2016 2:42:50 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Saying you don't like Muslims, is like saying you don't like Christians. There is nothing wrong with moderate Muslims, just as there is nothing wrong with moderate Christians. It is the extremists of both faiths who cause the problems. Faith is only a matter of opinion with no verifiable evidence to support any religion.
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11/12/2016 2:59:16 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...
Produce the British laws that prevent you.
Or are you just a pathetic whiner?
I'm betting #2 is the answer.
But you can prove me wrong simply by producing the laws you are crying like a baby about.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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11/12/2016 8:24:38 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:02:52 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:57:07 PM, janesix wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Sure. I dont like muslims. Or christians..

that's cool, I think you should have the right to say so...

but it seems in this world you cannot say it out loud in fear of upsetting someone...

Sorry, did you actually say that without thinking about it? Have you not the capacity to understand that Muslims would be upset after hearing that, especially when you have yet to offer a reason for saying that? Damn, you're dense.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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11/12/2016 9:00:13 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 8:55:11 PM, Casten wrote:
It sounds like this is another "rage against political correctness" thing.

I would be interested to hear the politically correct way of saying, "I don't like Muslims"
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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11/12/2016 9:24:31 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 9:00:13 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/12/2016 8:55:11 PM, Casten wrote:
It sounds like this is another "rage against political correctness" thing.

I would be interested to hear the politically correct way of saying, "I don't like Muslims"

There isn't one I'm aware of. I'm just bored of hearing right-wingers ranting about the "tyranny of libtard political correctness." As if political correctness doesn't get on literally everyone's nerves at some point. Everyone has to deal with it. Cut it with all this "woe is me, I'm being assailed!" crap, right-wingers.

Personally I would say something like, "I think there are inherently bad ideas within the House of Islam, and while I do not condemn all Muslims, I do think they share some of these bad ideas. It's worth noting that I think Christians share some bad ideas, too."
Willows
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11/12/2016 10:31:40 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 2:32:04 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 1:48:28 PM, Willows wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:32:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:10:41 PM, Willows wrote:
At 11/12/2016 12:08:41 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.
Actually people mostly like other people, the haters are very different but they are the ones we need to eradicate. Are you one?

No, because I don't subscribe to a religious faith.
That's irrelevant.

Perfectly relevant...where does most of the hate and violence in this world emanate from?
Religion.
Humans.

Who happen to be religious.
DanneJeRusse
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11/12/2016 10:56:38 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 9:24:31 PM, Casten wrote:
At 11/12/2016 9:00:13 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/12/2016 8:55:11 PM, Casten wrote:
It sounds like this is another "rage against political correctness" thing.

I would be interested to hear the politically correct way of saying, "I don't like Muslims"

There isn't one I'm aware of. I'm just bored of hearing right-wingers ranting about the "tyranny of libtard political correctness." As if political correctness doesn't get on literally everyone's nerves at some point. Everyone has to deal with it. Cut it with all this "woe is me, I'm being assailed!" crap, right-wingers.

Personally I would say something like, "I think there are inherently bad ideas within the House of Islam, and while I do not condemn all Muslims, I do think they share some of these bad ideas. It's worth noting that I think Christians share some bad ideas, too."

Absolutely, your post cuts right through the believers thinly veiled motives of intolerance and self-righteousness.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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11/12/2016 11:47:24 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.

Nor does any religious group like any other religious group.

Nor does any denomination within religious groups like other denominations.

Nor does any member of a religious denomination like anybody else.

So what's new?

Religion....the most self-centred, egotistical, spiteful, hateful institution ever invented.

and you don't like believers, so pot calling the kettle grimy ar"e...
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11/12/2016 11:52:30 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 11:47:24 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.

Nor does any religious group like any other religious group.

Nor does any denomination within religious groups like other denominations.

Nor does any member of a religious denomination like anybody else.

So what's new?

Religion....the most self-centred, egotistical, spiteful, hateful institution ever invented.

and you don't like believers, so pot calling the kettle grimy ar"e...

You're density precedes you. He said "Religion", not believers, dummy. Don't you even know the difference?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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11/12/2016 11:57:02 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 2:13:26 PM, PureX wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
Should you be able to say "I don't like muslims""?

Only if you wish to appear foolish. Because such a statement indicates that you have not bothered to consider that there are billions of Muslims on the planet, within many different cultures, and you don't know more than a handful of them.
you know they follow the koran and you know what the koran stands for...
Secondly, you are defining and condemning people based on their religion, and there is a lot more to any human being than their religion.
not in the case of those living by the koran...
So that such a statement would only serve to express your own ignorance, arrogance, and neglect.
not if you know what the koran says....
(The "you" is generic, here.)
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11/12/2016 11:58:31 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 2:42:50 PM, tarantula wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Saying you don't like Muslims, is like saying you don't like Christians. There is nothing wrong with moderate Muslims, just as there is nothing wrong with moderate Christians. It is the extremists of both faiths who cause the problems. Faith is only a matter of opinion with no verifiable evidence to support any religion.

there is no such thing as a moderate muslim, if they follow the koran and keep it;s rules you are a muslim if you don't you are not...
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11/13/2016 12:02:24 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 11:10:17 PM, Skeptical1 wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

Sure you should be able to say it. It is every person's inalienable right to be a dill by liking/disliking someone on the basis of their delusions. (Says he, having just read yet another senseless rant by a Muslim). It is (and I'm not sure I quite get this) actually possible to be a nice person despite holding the most ridiculous and ungenerous beliefs - check out a local church some time, odds are if it's big enough, you'll find a few quite nice people there.

So they should be allowed to be able to say it...

and being stupid for saying so is merely your opinion...
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11/13/2016 12:05:19 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
I think people are missing my point here...

the thing I am getting at is, should anyone be allowed to say I dislike.....

fill in the blank... christians, muslims, mormons, jw's ....
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11/13/2016 12:08:16 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/12/2016 11:52:30 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/12/2016 11:47:24 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 11/12/2016 11:59:59 AM, Willows wrote:
At 11/11/2016 10:54:30 PM, graceofgod wrote:
I don't like muslims...

And Muslims don't like Christians.

Nor does any religious group like any other religious group.

Nor does any denomination within religious groups like other denominations.

Nor does any member of a religious denomination like anybody else.

So what's new?

Religion....the most self-centred, egotistical, spiteful, hateful institution ever invented.

and you don't like believers, so pot calling the kettle grimy ar"e...

You're density precedes you. He said "Religion", not believers, dummy. Don't you even know the difference?

and what do those in a religion do, oh believe...lol

you are thick as pig sh1t....
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11/13/2016 12:08:58 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/13/2016 12:05:19 AM, graceofgod wrote:
I think people are missing my point here...

The point stands tall and proud as the shape of your head.

the thing I am getting at is, should anyone be allowed to say I dislike.....

fill in the blank... christians, muslims, mormons, jw's ....

Say whatever you want, be an idiot, no one cares.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth