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Jovian
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11/30/2016 12:02:13 PM
Posted: 5 days ago
I have here written a text form of this Youtube video https://www.youtube.com..., where the uploader speculates in how it would be if God were president. Credits for this post goes to the uploader of the video .

Many of us are willing to give our eternities to a concept of God presented to us by the ancient Israelites. But forget about eternities for a moment, and imagine a world in the here and now, in which are lives are dictated by a government that acts exactly like this god.

There is a vote first, of course. Technically, there is a choice, but the election always results in a nearly unanimous victory. That is the final election, you cannot have any other administrations before this one.

Henceforth, the government is well aware of all of your private communications and activity (the video shows an authority man listening through his technology to a phone call between a man and a woman). Federal video cameras are everywhere, even in bedrooms and bathrooms. Not a single moment of your life will go unseen, from conception to death. Simply seeing what your up to is not enough, the government must know all facets of your mind, so all citizens have a chip implanted in their head at birth. This chip monitors whether or not you have any "illegal" thoughts.

Due to all this surveillance and thought monitoring going on, at least you're safe from crime, right? Well not so fast. Surveillance is only used to determine guilt, but neither interventions nor preventative measures are ever taken. You see, as a good person you don't have much to worry about from the government, but you do have a lot to worry about from people who aren't so good, because they don't have a lot to worry about from the government either.

For though cameras and police officers are everywhere, when you or your loved ones are mugged, raped or murdered, the police do nothing to stop the perpetrator even while present, because that would interfere with the criminals' free will.

Criminals have to stand before a judge and answer for their crimes, sure, but all they have to do is apologize and sincerely ask for forgiveness, not of you as the victim, but of the judge, and the criminal is set free. Should you entertain a thought of spite toward the person who killed your loved one, then it is you who will stand before the judge. If you cannot muster adequate shame, then it is you who will be punished.

The sick and the poor beg the government for help, but the government's most reliable aid is reserved for the wealthy (the video shows God ignoring sick and poor people but giving Viagra and car keys to some man in a shirt). During award ceremonies you can usually spot professional athletes, award-winning actors and musicians thanking the government for its generous welfare (the video shows a texted real life speech of Matthew McConaughey thanking God for some award he won). Meanwhile, children are dying of preventable diseases, starvation, dehydration and natural disasters without any relief that could be easily supplied by the government's virtually inexhaustible coffers, coffers which are reserved for the welfare of the privileged.

This might seem unfair at first, but you are always taught to be reminded that the government works in mysterious ways. Trust that the government has a good reason of funding mansions and swimming pools for some, but not food and water for others. It's all part of a classified plan, a greater plan.

Above all, you are not allowed to talk bad about the government. Not only is that considered unpatriotic, it's illegal, unforgivable, and carries the most severe punishment of all. Isn't that odd? Your fellow citizens would also ostracize you, showing genuine contempt of you, because you dared to be critical of your government. It's almost as if they fell in love with the chains that bind them.
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11/30/2016 5:11:40 PM
Posted: 4 days ago
At 11/30/2016 12:02:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
I have here written a text form of this Youtube video https://www.youtube.com..., where the uploader speculates in how it would be if God were president. Credits for this post goes to the uploader of the video .

Many of us are willing to give our eternities to a concept of God presented to us by the ancient Israelites. But forget about eternities for a moment, and imagine a world in the here and now, in which are lives are dictated by a government that acts exactly like this god.

There is a vote first, of course. Technically, there is a choice, but the election always results in a nearly unanimous victory. That is the final election, you cannot have any other administrations before this one.

Henceforth, the government is well aware of all of your private communications and activity (the video shows an authority man listening through his technology to a phone call between a man and a woman). Federal video cameras are everywhere, even in bedrooms and bathrooms. Not a single moment of your life will go unseen, from conception to death. Simply seeing what your up to is not enough, the government must know all facets of your mind, so all citizens have a chip implanted in their head at birth. This chip monitors whether or not you have any "illegal" thoughts.

Due to all this surveillance and thought monitoring going on, at least you're safe from crime, right? Well not so fast. Surveillance is only used to determine guilt, but neither interventions nor preventative measures are ever taken. You see, as a good person you don't have much to worry about from the government, but you do have a lot to worry about from people who aren't so good, because they don't have a lot to worry about from the government either.

For though cameras and police officers are everywhere, when you or your loved ones are mugged, raped or murdered, the police do nothing to stop the perpetrator even while present, because that would interfere with the criminals' free will.

Criminals have to stand before a judge and answer for their crimes, sure, but all they have to do is apologize and sincerely ask for forgiveness, not of you as the victim, but of the judge, and the criminal is set free. Should you entertain a thought of spite toward the person who killed your loved one, then it is you who will stand before the judge. If you cannot muster adequate shame, then it is you who will be punished.

The sick and the poor beg the government for help, but the government's most reliable aid is reserved for the wealthy (the video shows God ignoring sick and poor people but giving Viagra and car keys to some man in a shirt). During award ceremonies you can usually spot professional athletes, award-winning actors and musicians thanking the government for its generous welfare (the video shows a texted real life speech of Matthew McConaughey thanking God for some award he won). Meanwhile, children are dying of preventable diseases, starvation, dehydration and natural disasters without any relief that could be easily supplied by the government's virtually inexhaustible coffers, coffers which are reserved for the welfare of the privileged.

This might seem unfair at first, but you are always taught to be reminded that the government works in mysterious ways. Trust that the government has a good reason of funding mansions and swimming pools for some, but not food and water for others. It's all part of a classified plan, a greater plan.

Above all, you are not allowed to talk bad about the government. Not only is that considered unpatriotic, it's illegal, unforgivable, and carries the most severe punishment of all. Isn't that odd? Your fellow citizens would also ostracize you, showing genuine contempt of you, because you dared to be critical of your government. It's almost as if they fell in love with the chains that bind them.

Bump.
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11/30/2016 7:47:26 PM
Posted: 4 days ago
God is God with the power of God, becoming a president would be one HUGE step DOWN from that now wouldn't it?
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11/30/2016 7:47:54 PM
Posted: 4 days ago
At 11/30/2016 5:11:40 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 11/30/2016 12:02:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
I have here written a text form of this Youtube video https://www.youtube.com..., where the uploader speculates in how it would be if God were president. Credits for this post goes to the uploader of the video .

Many of us are willing to give our eternities to a concept of God presented to us by the ancient Israelites. But forget about eternities for a moment, and imagine a world in the here and now, in which are lives are dictated by a government that acts exactly like this god.

There is a vote first, of course. Technically, there is a choice, but the election always results in a nearly unanimous victory. That is the final election, you cannot have any other administrations before this one.

Henceforth, the government is well aware of all of your private communications and activity (the video shows an authority man listening through his technology to a phone call between a man and a woman). Federal video cameras are everywhere, even in bedrooms and bathrooms. Not a single moment of your life will go unseen, from conception to death. Simply seeing what your up to is not enough, the government must know all facets of your mind, so all citizens have a chip implanted in their head at birth. This chip monitors whether or not you have any "illegal" thoughts.

Due to all this surveillance and thought monitoring going on, at least you're safe from crime, right? Well not so fast. Surveillance is only used to determine guilt, but neither interventions nor preventative measures are ever taken. You see, as a good person you don't have much to worry about from the government, but you do have a lot to worry about from people who aren't so good, because they don't have a lot to worry about from the government either.

For though cameras and police officers are everywhere, when you or your loved ones are mugged, raped or murdered, the police do nothing to stop the perpetrator even while present, because that would interfere with the criminals' free will.

Criminals have to stand before a judge and answer for their crimes, sure, but all they have to do is apologize and sincerely ask for forgiveness, not of you as the victim, but of the judge, and the criminal is set free. Should you entertain a thought of spite toward the person who killed your loved one, then it is you who will stand before the judge. If you cannot muster adequate shame, then it is you who will be punished.

The sick and the poor beg the government for help, but the government's most reliable aid is reserved for the wealthy (the video shows God ignoring sick and poor people but giving Viagra and car keys to some man in a shirt). During award ceremonies you can usually spot professional athletes, award-winning actors and musicians thanking the government for its generous welfare (the video shows a texted real life speech of Matthew McConaughey thanking God for some award he won). Meanwhile, children are dying of preventable diseases, starvation, dehydration and natural disasters without any relief that could be easily supplied by the government's virtually inexhaustible coffers, coffers which are reserved for the welfare of the privileged.

This might seem unfair at first, but you are always taught to be reminded that the government works in mysterious ways. Trust that the government has a good reason of funding mansions and swimming pools for some, but not food and water for others. It's all part of a classified plan, a greater plan.

Above all, you are not allowed to talk bad about the government. Not only is that considered unpatriotic, it's illegal, unforgivable, and carries the most severe punishment of all. Isn't that odd? Your fellow citizens would also ostracize you, showing genuine contempt of you, because you dared to be critical of your government. It's almost as if they fell in love with the chains that bind them.

Bump.

Damn, you must have read my thoughts. Are you an undercover agent from the CIA (Christian Intelligence Agency)?
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11/30/2016 7:49:15 PM
Posted: 4 days ago
At 11/30/2016 7:47:26 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
God is God with the power of God, becoming a president would be one HUGE step DOWN from that now wouldn't it?

Irrelevant, this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like God.
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11/30/2016 7:54:35 PM
Posted: 4 days ago
At 11/30/2016 7:49:15 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:47:26 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
God is God with the power of God, becoming a president would be one HUGE step DOWN from that now wouldn't it?

Irrelevant, this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like God.

That would be terrible. Depending of coarse on which passage of the Bible you read, you would end up with genocides! Or worse... they would make Co2 plants to pump more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and cause another flood!

Or..... and this going into the really SCARY place... you would end up with a governement that would actually take care of all its citizens which would mean.... NO!!!!! SOCIALISM!!!!
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12/1/2016 3:23:24 PM
Posted: 3 days ago
At 11/30/2016 7:49:15 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:47:26 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
God is God with the power of God, becoming a president would be one HUGE step DOWN from that now wouldn't it?

Irrelevant, this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like God.

That, or this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like the cartoon caricature God of a biased and ignorant atheist. Either or.
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12/1/2016 4:32:45 PM
Posted: 3 days ago
At 11/30/2016 7:54:35 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:49:15 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:47:26 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
God is God with the power of God, becoming a president would be one HUGE step DOWN from that now wouldn't it?

Irrelevant, this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like God.

That would be terrible. Depending of coarse on which passage of the Bible you read, you would end up with genocides! Or worse... they would make Co2 plants to pump more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and cause another flood!

Or..... and this going into the really SCARY place... you would end up with a governement that would actually take care of all its citizens which would mean.... NO!!!!! SOCIALISM!!!!

Socialism is a good thing. Socialism makes sense. Why have the banks make money at no risk to them when the people could be profiting by collective deposits, instead of just a few. In a perfect world we would need no government. Given what we have, socialism is the next best thing. Oh those evil Nazis.
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12/1/2016 4:55:22 PM
Posted: 3 days ago
... that's logically impossible.
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12/1/2016 7:12:49 PM
Posted: 3 days ago
At 12/1/2016 4:32:45 PM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:54:35 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:49:15 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:47:26 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
God is God with the power of God, becoming a president would be one HUGE step DOWN from that now wouldn't it?

Irrelevant, this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like God.

That would be terrible. Depending of coarse on which passage of the Bible you read, you would end up with genocides! Or worse... they would make Co2 plants to pump more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and cause another flood!

Or..... and this going into the really SCARY place... you would end up with a governement that would actually take care of all its citizens which would mean.... NO!!!!! SOCIALISM!!!!

Socialism is a good thing. Socialism makes sense. Why have the banks make money at no risk to them when the people could be profiting by collective deposits, instead of just a few. In a perfect world we would need no government. Given what we have, socialism is the next best thing. Oh those evil Nazis.

For once we actually agree on something.
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12/1/2016 7:24:47 PM
Posted: 3 days ago
At 12/1/2016 7:12:49 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 12/1/2016 4:32:45 PM, MasonicSlayer wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:54:35 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:49:15 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:47:26 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
God is God with the power of God, becoming a president would be one HUGE step DOWN from that now wouldn't it?

Irrelevant, this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like God.

That would be terrible. Depending of coarse on which passage of the Bible you read, you would end up with genocides! Or worse... they would make Co2 plants to pump more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and cause another flood!

Or..... and this going into the really SCARY place... you would end up with a governement that would actually take care of all its citizens which would mean.... NO!!!!! SOCIALISM!!!!

Socialism is a good thing. Socialism makes sense. Why have the banks make money at no risk to them when the people could be profiting by collective deposits, instead of just a few. In a perfect world we would need no government. Given what we have, socialism is the next best thing. Oh those evil Nazis.

For once we actually agree on something.

What if I took it a step further to say we could live better in a world without money? The concept of money, rewarding people with money based on predetermined values does not sit well with me. What I could propose would only work in a world that existed without a greed. An integrity of good character would be required to live in a world where everything was free. Everyone would have a job. A person's job would be given based on the sum total of what they enjoy doing compared to what they are capable of doing, doing so their job to the best standards possible. Not because they have to, because they want to. They would not wish to sit idle and milk the system, but help make the system work. It would be a system where everyone would take what they need instead of what they want, yet everything they want would be for free. Everybody works for free. Everybody gets what they want for free. It would be a world of free and enjoyable energy.
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12/1/2016 11:29:01 PM
Posted: 3 days ago
At 12/1/2016 3:23:24 PM, ethang5 wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:49:15 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 11/30/2016 7:47:26 PM, Silly_Billy wrote:
God is God with the power of God, becoming a president would be one HUGE step DOWN from that now wouldn't it?

Irrelevant, this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like God.

That, or this is the speculation of a government that acts exactly like the cartoon caricature God of a biased and ignorant atheist. Either or.

You are welcome to show me why the speculation in OP is wrong, and how it actually would be if God were president. Would the "free will" be different and would a godly government in a society with thought monitoring technology not punish a man who looks at a woman's breasts with lust in his mind?