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Joseph Smith was a greater pedo than mohammad

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1/23/2011 9:50:15 PM
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Joseph Smith declared that whoever married him would go to heaven. In April 1841, Smith secretly wed Louisa Beaman as a plural wife, and during the next two and a half years he may have married thirty additional women, ten of whom were already married to other men,and about a third of them teenagers, including two fourteen-year-old girls.
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1/23/2011 10:02:51 PM
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Wasn't Mohammad's wife like 9? I'd say he's still the bigger pedo.
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1/23/2011 10:03:58 PM
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She was a really hot 9 year old.
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1/23/2011 10:19:28 PM
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A pedophile is a pedophile is a pedophile. Both were sick, twisted, sociopathic individuals who deserve the same respect as Hitler, Stalin, Hussein, and the like. After all, scientific studies show that sexual criminals are beyond rehabilitation, regardless of the age and gender of their victims. In summation, both men would have spent life in prison or been put to death, had they been born in modern times.
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1/23/2011 11:54:34 PM
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factoring in life expectancies during the time

Mohammeds wife was in all fairness closer to 14

Therefore Joseph smith was a bigger pedo because he had 2 chicks that age.
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1/24/2011 12:33:21 AM
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You guys, you fail so hard.

Neither of them is a pedo; they're exempt from such classifications on the basis of being religious prophets.
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1/24/2011 12:37:07 AM
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At 1/24/2011 12:33:21 AM, tvellalott wrote:
You guys, you fail so hard.

Neither of them is a pedo; they're exempt from such classifications on the basis of being religious prophets.

Is this the sort of logic that inspires people to become Catholic Priests?
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1/24/2011 12:37:18 AM
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lol, notice how all the definitely man-made religions have pedos for prophets. xD
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1/24/2011 12:39:02 AM
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At 1/24/2011 12:37:07 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
At 1/24/2011 12:33:21 AM, tvellalott wrote:
You guys, you fail so hard.

Neither of them is a pedo; they're exempt from such classifications on the basis of being religious prophets.

Is this the sort of logic that inspires people to become Catholic Priests?

Indeed. If can rape as many little boys as you want, so long as you accept the Holy spirit.
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1/24/2011 12:41:07 AM
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At 1/23/2011 9:50:15 PM, askbob wrote:
Joseph Smith declared that whoever married him would go to heaven. In April 1841, Smith secretly wed Louisa Beaman as a plural wife, and during the next two and a half years he may have married thirty additional women, ten of whom were already married to other men,and about a third of them teenagers, including two fourteen-year-old girls.

Joseph wins because he did it before he declared doctrine, the doctrine was produced once he was captured, Emma his wife caught him with Fanny Alger in the barn. so no surprises why she kicked the trip to Utah and the church into touch with Brigham Young shouting obscenities at her.
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1/24/2011 8:14:33 AM
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At 1/23/2011 10:02:51 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
Wasn't Mohammad's wife like 9? I'd say he's still the bigger pedo.:

Muhammad's "wife" was 6 years old, but the claim is that he didn't consummate the marriage until she was 9. They must have had soooo much to talk about.

Muhammad: "So, honey, how was your day?"
Aisha: "My cat's breath smells like cat food!"
Muhammad: "Did you pay the cable like I asked?"
Aisha: "Haha! Clowns are neat!"
Muhammad: "Go make me a sammich, woman!"
Aisha: "I has a booger in my nose."
Muhammad: *sigh*
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1/24/2011 8:21:39 AM
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At 1/23/2011 11:54:34 PM, askbob wrote:
factoring in life expectancies during the time

Mohammeds wife was in all fairness closer to 14

Therefore Joseph smith was a bigger pedo because he had 2 chicks that age.

In all fairness, girls at the age of 14 at least have boobs and are at reproductive age. 9 year old doesn't have anything :|
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1/24/2011 9:35:48 AM
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A pedophile is someone sexually attracted to young girls under puberty and wanting them sexually. Prophet Muhammad married Aisha as a fulfillment of prophecy to assist her to becoming a leader and authoritive figure for all Muslims and islam, not for sexual reasons. So Muhammad is clearly not a pedophile and it is only the minds of perverted people who think otherwise.
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1/24/2011 9:55:04 AM
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At 1/24/2011 9:35:48 AM, Fatihah wrote:
A pedophile is someone sexually attracted to young girls under puberty and wanting them sexually. Prophet Muhammad married Aisha as a fulfillment of prophecy to assist her to becoming a leader and authoritive figure for all Muslims and islam, not for sexual reasons. So Muhammad is clearly not a pedophile and it is only the minds of perverted people who think otherwise.:

Oh, no, clearly not a pedophile. He was just "assisting" her in order to fulfill "prophecy." LOL! Okay...
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1/24/2011 10:24:29 AM
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At 1/24/2011 9:55:04 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 1/24/2011 9:35:48 AM, Fatihah wrote:
A pedophile is someone sexually attracted to young girls under puberty and wanting them sexually. Prophet Muhammad married Aisha as a fulfillment of prophecy to assist her to becoming a leader and authoritive figure for all Muslims and islam, not for sexual reasons. So Muhammad is clearly not a pedophile and it is only the minds of perverted people who think otherwise.:

Oh, no, clearly not a pedophile. He was just "assisting" her in order to fulfill "prophecy." LOL! Okay...

Response: Exactly. And the word marriage somehow means "let's have sex" to non-Muslims yet it's Muhammad who's the pedophile? LOL! Okay....
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1/24/2011 10:27:49 AM
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People we can't judge nineteenth century members by twenty-first century standards. That's like saying wow you didn't have a computer back then you must be a horrible person. That is simply an invalid assessment.

1850 Census
Of note is that 41.7% of women married as teenagers compared to only 4.1% of men. The mean age for men was more than five years older than that for women (27.6 vs. 22.5). For young women, marriage in the early to mid teens was rare, but not unheard of as both the anecdotal and statistical evidence above show. Teenage brides married a husband that averaged 6.6 +/- 4.7 (std) years older. To put that in perspective, 13% of the time the husband was over 10 years older than his teenage wife.

---Polygamy was not about sex.---

As non-Mormon church historian Ernst Benz wrote:
Mormon polygamy has nothing to do with sexual debauchery but is tied to a strict patriarchal system of family order and demonstrates in the relationship of the husband to his individual wives all the ethical traits of a Christian, monogamous marriage. It is completely focused on bearing children and rearing them in the bosom of the family and the Mormon community. Actually, it exhibits a very great measure of selflessness, a willingness to sacrifice, and a sense of duty.

Indeed, those who became Mormons were those who were least likely, culturally, to be thrilled at the prospect of polygamy:
Polygamy, when first announced to the Saints, was an offensive, disgusting doctrine, difficult to accept…The men and women who placed faith in the bona fides of the revelation were Victorian in their background and moral character. The hard test of accepting polygamy as a principle revealed and required by God selected out from the Church membership at large a basic corps of faithful members who, within the next few decades, were to be subjected to an Abraham-Isaac test administered by the federal government as God's agent.[7]

Paul Peterson's comment about the diaries of Joseph Smith resonates well in this regard:

I had not fully grasped certain aspects of the Prophet's psyche and personality. After just a few pages into Personal Writings,[9] it became clear that Joseph possessed religious dimensions that I had not understood. For one thing, it was apparent I had underestimated the depth of his dependence upon Deity. The Joseph that emerges in Personal Writings is an intensely devout and God-fearing young man who at times seems almost helpless without divine support. And his sincerity about his prophetic calling is also apparent. If others were not persuaded of his claims, it could not be said that Joseph was unconvinced that God had both called and directed him. Detractors who claim that Joseph came to like the game of playing prophet would be discomfited if they read Personal Writings. Scholars may quibble with how true his theology is, but for anyone who reads Personal Writings, his earnestness and honesty are no longer debatable points.[10]

---No plural marriage today---

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints http://www.lds.org... dos not practice polygamy today. People should look at our religion today not in the past. I could go through any religion and find questionable things in the past.

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1/24/2011 11:27:11 AM
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At 1/24/2011 9:35:48 AM, Fatihah wrote:
A pedophile is someone sexually attracted to young girls under puberty and wanting them sexually. Prophet Muhammad married Aisha as a fulfillment of prophecy to assist her to becoming a leader and authoritive figure for all Muslims and islam, not for sexual reasons. So Muhammad is clearly not a pedophile and it is only the minds of perverted people who think otherwise.

Her age is a debatable point, but you seem to accept that Muhammad had sex with a nine year old girl. Yet you also seem to justify this?

How many mental hoops must you jump through to remain a member of your club?
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1/24/2011 11:30:05 AM
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Too bad some of the Catholic priests aren't considered prophets, they could have at least gotten an honorable (or dishonorable) mention in this thread. We'll call it "others receiving votes" like at the bottom of the top 25 basketball poll :oP

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1/24/2011 11:33:37 AM
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Response: Exactly. And the word marriage somehow means "let's have sex" to non-Muslims yet it's Muhammad who's the pedophile? LOL! Okay....:

Whatever you have to tell yourself to get through another day, brother. I'm sure he had 9 wives for the honor of it.
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1/24/2011 11:37:23 AM
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At 1/24/2011 10:51:48 AM, innomen wrote:
At 1/24/2011 10:38:37 AM, Koopin wrote:
That's nothing, many people don't know that Buddha married a Fetus!

Enter Geo.

Yeah, apparently he got the fetus pregnant and the fetus and a fetus. So when they were born the mother and daughter were the same age.
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1/24/2011 11:38:02 AM
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At 1/24/2011 11:37:23 AM, Koopin wrote:
At 1/24/2011 10:51:48 AM, innomen wrote:
At 1/24/2011 10:38:37 AM, Koopin wrote:
That's nothing, many people don't know that Buddha married a Fetus!

Enter Geo.

Yeah, apparently he got the fetus pregnant and the fetus HAD a fetus. So when they were born the mother and daughter were the same age.

Fix'd
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1/24/2011 11:45:44 AM
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There's only one way to settle this. Deflowering contest, heaven, next tuesday. Order up 72 virgins each. First one to do em all wins.
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1/24/2011 11:47:53 AM
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At 1/24/2011 11:45:44 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
There's only one way to settle this. Deflowering contest, heaven, next tuesday. Order up 72 virgins each. First one to do em all wins.

seconded
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1/24/2011 11:54:00 AM
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Who is the greatest pedo of them all?

It's kind of funny to call one pedo greater than another.
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3/9/2015 10:22:02 PM
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At 1/23/2011 11:54:34 PM, askbob wrote:
factoring in life expectancies during the time

Mohammeds wife was in all fairness closer to 14

Therefore Joseph smith was a bigger pedo because he had 2 chicks that age.

According to Islam's own texts she was 6 when he married her, and 9 when he had sex with her.
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3/10/2015 12:51:52 AM
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At 3/9/2015 10:22:02 PM, Robert_Weiler wrote:
At 1/23/2011 11:54:34 PM, askbob wrote:
factoring in life expectancies during the time

Mohammeds wife was in all fairness closer to 14

Therefore Joseph smith was a bigger pedo because he had 2 chicks that age.

According to Islam's own texts she was 6 when he married her, and 9 when he had sex with her.

Could you please provide the text, translation version & textual reference numbers for my records?

Thanks
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3/10/2015 4:57:45 AM
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'The ceremony of marriage was intended to be a bond of love between two (families of different) surnames, with a view, in its retrospective character, to secure the services in the ancestral temple, and in its prospective character, to secure the continuance of the family line.' (Book of Rites 44.1) Any marriage that doesn't fit these conditions is not moral. That includes both Smith's and Mohammad's marriages.
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3/10/2015 5:26:31 AM
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Mary was more than likely below the age of consent in Western countries today, when the deity got her pregnant!