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Do you believe in God ?

interrogator
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2/9/2011 3:23:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Yes or no. Please explain your answer here. Thank you. Why do you, or do you
not belive in God. Some can feel His presence all around, and have seen His
miracles and power, that cannot be explained by science, every day.
Then there are those who do not think that there is a Supreme Being or The Almighty at all.
Tell me please. Do you believe in God ? Thank you.
InsertNameHere
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2/9/2011 3:26:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Yes I do, but for me it's beyond an explanation. I have also had personal experiences that incline me towards belief in God. I consider myself a weak theist though.
CosmicAlfonzo
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2/9/2011 3:38:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Depends on how you define god.

I believe in THIS god.

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and it's mysterious hand, the variable unaccounted for.
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GeoLaureate8
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2/9/2011 3:45:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
"I do not believe that God does not exist... I know for sure." -- Osho

"The only person who can be sure of the existence of a God conjured by their own mind, is the owner of that mind. It doesn't take a member of Mensa to figure that one out." -- Michael Tsarion
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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-- Frederic Bastiat
charleslb
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2/9/2011 4:49:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/9/2011 3:23:41 PM, interrogator wrote:
Yes or no. Please explain your answer here. Thank you. Why do you, or do you
not belive in God. Some can feel His presence all around, and have seen His
miracles and power, that cannot be explained by science, every day.
Then there are those who do not think that there is a Supreme Being or The Almighty at all.
Tell me please. Do you believe in God ? Thank you.

"Do you believe in God" is a meaningless query when put as a stand-alone question. It presumes that others naturally share or psychically know what definition or concept of the Divine you have in mind. One must always preface a conversation about belief in God with an explicitly articulated definition of one's idea of God.
Yo, all of my subliterate conservative criticasters who find perusing and processing the sesquipedalian verbiage of my posts to be such a bothersome brain-taxing chore, I have a new nickname for you. Henceforth you shall be known as Pooh Bears. No, not for the obvious apt reasons, i.e., not because you're full of pooh, and not because of your ursine irritability. Rather, you put me in mind of an A.A. Milne quote, "I am a Bear of Very Little Brain, and long words bother me". Love ya, Pooh Bears.
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2/9/2011 4:54:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
"Others think that God is free creator of all things; clinging to these foolish notions, there is no awakening." -- the Buddha [Lankavatara Sutra]
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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2/9/2011 5:00:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I believe in a god and my god is a paradox for it is the only logical way to have a god, my god is undoubtedly superior to all others for he is both nothing and something at the same tome and all f your gods can only be something hence refuting your gods existence, but who care I do not I believe in a paradox and you do not, who gives a rats arse.
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: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
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: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.
CosmicAlfonzo
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2/9/2011 5:01:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
That was surprisingly deep, SRW.
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2/9/2011 5:32:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/9/2011 3:23:41 PM, interrogator wrote:
Yes or no.

No.

Please explain your answer here.

I've been given no reason to believe a deity exists. And the evidence brought forward by theists (at least the arguments I have read/talked about) are not substantial enough to persuade me. If anything, the question should be "why must a god exist"? I see no benefit or logic in it -- and such a question has not been answered to my satisfaction.

Thank you.

Your welcome! :)

Why do you, or do you not belive in God.

See above.

Some can feel His presence all around, and have seen His miracles and power, that cannot be explained by science, every day.

I've had some weird experiences -- it just turned out that I was not medicated sufficiently. :P

Then there are those who do not think that there is a Supreme Being or The Almighty at all.

I would be in that group...

Tell me please. Do you believe in God ? Thank you.

No.
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
GodSands
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2/9/2011 5:35:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
: At 2/9/2011 5:32:10 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 2/9/2011 3:23:41 PM, interrogator wrote:
Yes or no.

No.

Please explain your answer here.

I've been given no reason to believe a deity exists. And the evidence brought forward by theists (at least the arguments I have read/talked about) are not substantial enough to persuade me. If anything, the question should be "why must a god exist"? I see no benefit or logic in it -- and such a question has not been answered to my satisfaction.

Thank you.

Your welcome! :)

Why do you, or do you not belive in God.

See above.

Some can feel His presence all around, and have seen His miracles and power, that cannot be explained by science, every day.

I've had some weird experiences -- it just turned out that I was not medicated sufficiently. :P

Then there are those who do not think that there is a Supreme Being or The Almighty at all.

I would be in that group...

Tell me please. Do you believe in God ? Thank you.

No.


You've destroyed the mood. Never mind.
SuperRobotWars
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2/9/2011 8:31:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/9/2011 5:00:46 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
I believe in a god and my god is a paradox for it is the only logical way to have a god, my god is undoubtedly superior to all others for he is both nothing and something at the same tome and all of your gods can only be something hence refuting your gods existence, but who cares, I don't. I believe in a paradox and you do not, who gives a rats arse.

Damn dirty typos!
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: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
:
: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.
charleslb
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2/9/2011 11:38:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/9/2011 8:31:02 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
At 2/9/2011 5:00:46 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
I believe in a god and my god is a paradox for it is the only logical way to have a god, my god is undoubtedly superior to all others for he is both nothing and something at the same tome and all of your gods can only be something hence refuting your gods existence, but who cares, I don't. I believe in a paradox and you do not, who gives a rats arse.

Damn dirty typos!

Yeah, what's with this site not allowing one to edit one's post and correct the inevitable occasional typo. I consider this to be an annoying flaw of the site's design.
Yo, all of my subliterate conservative criticasters who find perusing and processing the sesquipedalian verbiage of my posts to be such a bothersome brain-taxing chore, I have a new nickname for you. Henceforth you shall be known as Pooh Bears. No, not for the obvious apt reasons, i.e., not because you're full of pooh, and not because of your ursine irritability. Rather, you put me in mind of an A.A. Milne quote, "I am a Bear of Very Little Brain, and long words bother me". Love ya, Pooh Bears.
Atheism
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2/10/2011 12:16:55 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/9/2011 4:49:22 PM, charleslb wrote:
At 2/9/2011 3:23:41 PM, interrogator wrote:
Yes or no. Please explain your answer here. Thank you. Why do you, or do you
not belive in God. Some can feel His presence all around, and have seen His
miracles and power, that cannot be explained by science, every day.
Then there are those who do not think that there is a Supreme Being or The Almighty at all.
Tell me please. Do you believe in God ? Thank you.

"Do you believe in God" is a meaningless query when put as a stand-alone question. It presumes that others naturally share or psychically know what definition or concept of the Divine you have in mind. One must always preface a conversation about belief in God with an explicitly articulated definition of one's idea of God.

That was, surprisingly, a really good response.
I miss the old members.
charleslb
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2/10/2011 3:09:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 12:18:12 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Charlesb, do you believe religion is the opiate of the masses like marx did?

It can be of course, but then, as history has shown, Marxism can also be exploited as an "opiate of the people". But then again, religion can also be a stimulant, for personal spiritual growth and progressive social change. And although my avatar is a facetious Marx image this doesn't mean that I'm a Marxist. I've read Marx and found some good insights in his writings, but then so have many liberation theologians in the Roman Catholic Church, finding some value in Marxism doesn't ipso facto make one a card-carrying Marxist who sees no value in religion.
Yo, all of my subliterate conservative criticasters who find perusing and processing the sesquipedalian verbiage of my posts to be such a bothersome brain-taxing chore, I have a new nickname for you. Henceforth you shall be known as Pooh Bears. No, not for the obvious apt reasons, i.e., not because you're full of pooh, and not because of your ursine irritability. Rather, you put me in mind of an A.A. Milne quote, "I am a Bear of Very Little Brain, and long words bother me". Love ya, Pooh Bears.
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2/10/2011 3:12:18 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 3:09:32 AM, charleslb wrote:
At 2/10/2011 12:18:12 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Charlesb, do you believe religion is the opiate of the masses like marx did?

It can be of course, but then, as history has shown, Marxism can also be exploited as an "opiate of the people". But then again, religion can also be a stimulant, for personal spiritual growth and progressive social change. And although my avatar is a facetious Marx image this doesn't mean that I'm a Marxist. I've read Marx and found some good insights in his writings, but then so have many liberation theologians in the Roman Catholic Church, finding some value in Marxism doesn't ipso facto make one a card-carrying Marxist who sees no value in religion.

Seems silly you would have marx as your avatar when you're not a marxist, but then again I have pinochet as mine and I think he was a crazy mass-murdering dictator; it's mainly there as a joke as I got compared to pinochet.
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2/10/2011 3:20:11 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/9/2011 5:00:46 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
I believe in a god and my god is a paradox for it is the only logical way to have a god, my god is undoubtedly superior to all others for he is both nothing and something at the same tome and all f your gods can only be something hence refuting your gods existence, but who care I do not I believe in a paradox and you do not, who gives a rats arse.

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2/10/2011 10:25:06 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 8:57:15 AM, else wrote:
How can you prove otherwise.

"You can't prove it doesn't exist" is a horrible reason. Did you know that it is impossible to prove (ie. give positive evidence) that something doesn't exist, with maybe a few exceptions?

Even if it actually doesn't.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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2/10/2011 10:29:51 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
argument from ignorance.
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2/10/2011 10:37:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I hate this question. It doesn't matter if people say they believe in God or not because there are innumerable ways that people define God. Last night some girl defined God as the connection all human beings share. Um, that's great but how do we pray to such a connection and thank it for creating the universe? Even though there are a ridiculous amount of interpretations and descriptions, to me "God" has to be a conscious entity responsible for creating the universe -- omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient (and other standard qualities typically attributed). Do I believe such a thing exists? With all those qualities, no. RFD - philosophy (logic and science).
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2/10/2011 2:11:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Yes I believe Jesus existed. And thats about it, ohh yeaaa repent and turn to Jesus.
Ohh Lord How you love me, you change my heart and soul, renewing my mind into something I could never imagine, You make me strong when I am weak, you encourage me when I'm despaired, You stick by me when everyone deserts me, You are my Lord You are my God.

Charles: I'm not a Christian because I'm afraid of hell, I'm a Christian because I love Jesus.

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He looks like a Sith lord, I don't trust him.

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2/10/2011 4:28:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 10:37:57 AM, theLwerd wrote:
I hate this question. It doesn't matter if people say they believe in God or not because there are innumerable ways that people define God. Last night some girl defined God as the connection all human beings share. Um, that's great but how do we pray to such a connection and thank it for creating the universe? Even though there are a ridiculous amount of interpretations and descriptions, to me "God" has to be a conscious entity responsible for creating the universe -- omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient (and other standard qualities typically attributed). Do I believe such a thing exists? With all those qualities, no. RFD - philosophy (logic and science).

i don't like the way you used the word conscious there as if it implies free will :)
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