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Is science a legitimate issue ?

interrogator
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7/5/2011 10:43:03 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Or is it just a hypothetical one. Of course we dont need science to tell us that
God is a spirit. And we dont need science to tell us that God is all powerful.
But in a world where secualrism is such a prominant ally of reality, does it
really matter when it comes to our discussion about The Almighty ?
Someone said that God defies logic. He created time and space.
He is the beginning and the end. He is the author and finisher of our faith.
He controls life and death. He is infinite and there is no beginnig or ending
to his reign. Is science big enough ? Is it strong enough to support these
extraordinary theories or facts I should say. If not, then why does that leave
some of us to be skeptics.
Man-is-good
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7/5/2011 10:46:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Science can at least prove the existence and validate the world that God supposedly created, but I cannot see how it can account for the likelihood of a supreme or perfect God in this universe...
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
interrogator
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7/5/2011 10:53:35 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Man Is Good. But that is my point. Is science itself a big enough platform
to describe The Almighty God in His glory. Think about that my friend.
In all things seen here on Earth today, the power of God is present.
The existence of God lies in the soul of man. But can you see a persons soul ?
No. You can see spirits and science cannot always or fully explain the dynamics
of that either. So if that is the case, then is it safe to say that this is beyond
man himself. The proof you seek is not scientific by spiritual or divine ?
tkubok
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7/6/2011 3:45:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/5/2011 10:53:35 AM, interrogator wrote:
Man Is Good. But that is my point. Is science itself a big enough platform
to describe The Almighty God in His glory. Think about that my friend.
In all things seen here on Earth today, the power of God is present.
The existence of God lies in the soul of man. But can you see a persons soul ?
No. You can see spirits and science cannot always or fully explain the dynamics
of that either. So if that is the case, then is it safe to say that this is beyond
man himself. The proof you seek is not scientific by spiritual or divine ?

Is science a big enough platform to describe how a jabberwocky reproduces? Is science a big enough platform to describe how faeries make the flowers bloom? Is science a big enough platform to describe how invisible unicorns fly?

Science cannot explain things that do not exist, or have no evidence to support its existance. Hence, why it cannot describe any of the examples I provided above, or god.
Tiel
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7/6/2011 5:33:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Curious Thought: What if God is the ultimate scientist? Spirituality might fall under the realm of science one day. Imagine going to school and learning about spirit science (spiritology?).
"Only the inner force of curiosity and wonder about the unknown, or an outer force upon your free will, can brake the shackles of your current perception."
Alien
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7/6/2011 5:43:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Tiel. From what I understand, God is beyond any normal logic that Man himself
can muster. He is the creator of all things under the sun. He has no need to discover
anything carnal or Earthly as there are no mysteries to Him.
Tiel
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7/6/2011 6:40:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2011 5:43:39 PM, Alien wrote:
Tiel. From what I understand, God is beyond any normal logic that Man himself
can muster. He is the creator of all things under the sun. He has no need to discover
anything carnal or Earthly as there are no mysteries to Him.

Opinion: I would say any consciousness that makes decisions can be understood by another consciousness. Also, who spoke of God discovering anything? Either way, it was only the playful question of a curious nature. It's not meant to be taken very seriously.
"Only the inner force of curiosity and wonder about the unknown, or an outer force upon your free will, can brake the shackles of your current perception."
RoyLatham
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7/13/2011 11:09:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
The difference is that science relies upon fixed laws of nature that determine what is possible and what is not possible. It turns out the some laws of nature are statistical, so everything is not predictable, but the statistics are determined.

Gods work in the realm of magic, with no repeatability or predictability. Magic cannot be covered by science because it doesn't obey any laws of nature.
Ieyeb
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7/31/2011 9:30:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2011 5:33:11 PM, Tiel wrote:
Curious Thought: What if God is the ultimate scientist? Spirituality might fall under the realm of science one day. Imagine going to school and learning about spirit science (spiritology?).

Ieye agree with this Tiel,
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7/31/2011 9:46:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/5/2011 10:43:03 AM, interrogator wrote:
Or is it just a hypothetical one. Of course we dont need science to tell us that
God is a spirit. And we dont need science to tell us that God is all powerful.
But in a world where secualrism is such a prominant ally of reality, does it
really matter when it comes to our discussion about The Almighty ?
Someone said that God defies logic. He created time and space.
He is the beginning and the end. He is the author and finisher of our faith.
He controls life and death. He is infinite and there is no beginnig or ending
to his reign. Is science big enough ? Is it strong enough to support these
extraordinary theories or facts I should say. If not, then why does that leave
some of us to be skeptics.

... ieye would say its legitimate... Just because we have the imagination to simply "think" abstractly doesn't discount what can be proven,verse what is "just thinking"... if you want to think GOD is a Spirit..its not Science burden to prove it..

ieye can think TVs are God and are Spirits...but its not Science burden to prove it.. the spiritual world is always an opinion...