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1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


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1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.
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1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof
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1/19/2012 11:56:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

The bible can be used for evidence. It says so in the Bible.
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1/19/2012 12:00:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

Bible.
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1/19/2012 12:01:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 11:56:25 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

The bible can be used for evidence. It says so in the Bible.

There are many scientists, and Egyptologists who have discovered things spoke about in the Bible. Let me guess, they're insane too. Right ? Idiot.
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1/19/2012 1:24:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 12:01:46 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:56:25 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

The bible can be used for evidence. It says so in the Bible.

There are many scientists, and Egyptologists who have discovered things spoke about in the Bible. Let me guess, they're insane too. Right ? Idiot.

No, but historians also believe that there was a siege of Troy. This does not mean that Zeus is up on mount olympus raging that we aren't burning hecatomes for him.
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1/19/2012 1:58:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 1:24:13 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 12:01:46 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:56:25 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

The bible can be used for evidence. It says so in the Bible.

There are many scientists, and Egyptologists who have discovered things spoke about in the Bible. Let me guess, they're insane too. Right ? Idiot.

No, but historians also believe that there was a siege of Troy. This does not mean that Zeus is up on mount olympus raging that we aren't burning hecatomes for him.

What? But historians found Troy and noted that it was assaulted, so the Iliad must be correct. Zeus, Hera, and Aphrodite all exist!
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1/19/2012 2:58:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 1:58:34 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/19/2012 1:24:13 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 12:01:46 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:56:25 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

The bible can be used for evidence. It says so in the Bible.

There are many scientists, and Egyptologists who have discovered things spoke about in the Bible. Let me guess, they're insane too. Right ? Idiot.

No, but historians also believe that there was a siege of Troy. This does not mean that Zeus is up on mount olympus raging that we aren't burning hecatomes for him.

What? But historians found Troy and noted that it was assaulted, so the Iliad must be correct. Zeus, Hera, and Aphrodite all exist!

Dont forget Atë, the Greek God a great many here would relate to.
inferno
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1/19/2012 3:05:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 1:24:13 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 12:01:46 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:56:25 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

The bible can be used for evidence. It says so in the Bible.

There are many scientists, and Egyptologists who have discovered things spoke about in the Bible. Let me guess, they're insane too. Right ? Idiot.

No, but historians also believe that there was a siege of Troy. This does not mean that Zeus is up on mount olympus raging that we aren't burning hecatomes for him.

Zeus was actually a demon from the underworld, that wanted the Egyptians and Greeks to serve him.
They thought he was a god, but he was not.
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1/19/2012 3:06:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 3:05:41 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 1:24:13 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 12:01:46 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:56:25 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

The bible can be used for evidence. It says so in the Bible.

There are many scientists, and Egyptologists who have discovered things spoke about in the Bible. Let me guess, they're insane too. Right ? Idiot.

No, but historians also believe that there was a siege of Troy. This does not mean that Zeus is up on mount olympus raging that we aren't burning hecatomes for him.

Zeus was actually a demon from the underworld, that wanted the Egyptians and Greeks to serve him.
They thought he was a god, but he was not.

Stop insulting my gods, inferno.
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1/19/2012 3:06:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/19/2012 3:06:28 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/19/2012 3:05:41 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 1:24:13 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 12:01:46 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:56:25 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:44:14 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
At 1/19/2012 11:20:09 AM, inferno wrote:
At 1/19/2012 10:20:16 AM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
New 3-D computer simulations have delivered a crushing blow to the strongest contender for our sun's birthplace, astronomers say, returning the quest for the solar system's origins to square one.

Stars like the sun typically form in clusters with other stars. Many clusters are spread out so that the stars drift apart, but others are denser, and gravity keeps their stars close together.

The sun now stands alone, so astronomers think our star—and its newborn solar system—was either ejected from its birth cluster or drifted away from its siblings about 4.5 billion years ago.


For more: http://news.nationalgeographic.com...

God created the sun, moon, and stars. Next.

Where's your proof? The Bible, Quran, or holy text=/=Proof

The bible can be used for evidence. It says so in the Bible.

There are many scientists, and Egyptologists who have discovered things spoke about in the Bible. Let me guess, they're insane too. Right ? Idiot.

No, but historians also believe that there was a siege of Troy. This does not mean that Zeus is up on mount olympus raging that we aren't burning hecatomes for him.

Zeus was actually a demon from the underworld, that wanted the Egyptians and Greeks to serve him.
They thought he was a god, but he was not.

Stop insulting my gods, inferno.

Very funny champ. =)
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1/23/2012 3:05:10 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Geez, this otherwise interesting thread was all but destroyed. :\

Well, anyway...

From the article, it seems that there's some implication that the life of a star is actually one long pulse.

In other words, assuming that a lightning bug's chemical-based glows are independent events, one could assume that by their description (heat up for a long time, and then pop like popcorn! lol?), a hyperaccelerated view of a galaxy might look akin to a bunch of lightning bugs pulsing in and out -- but, in this case, it would be in and out of existence.

If stars aren't formed in clusters, it does kind of beg the question for spontaneous manifestation attributable to some sort of sentient being, ironically. :P

Interesting. :)
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1/23/2012 7:41:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/23/2012 3:05:10 AM, Ren wrote:
Geez, this otherwise interesting thread was all but destroyed. :\

Well, anyway...

From the article, it seems that there's some implication that the life of a star is actually one long pulse.

In other words, assuming that a lightning bug's chemical-based glows are independent events, one could assume that by their description (heat up for a long time, and then pop like popcorn! lol?), a hyperaccelerated view of a galaxy might look akin to a bunch of lightning bugs pulsing in and out -- but, in this case, it would be in and out of existence.

If stars aren't formed in clusters, it does kind of beg the question for spontaneous manifestation attributable to some sort of sentient being, ironically. :P

Interesting. :)

1. Stars are formed in clusters
2. Even if they are not, it does not beg any questions about god
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1/23/2012 12:29:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/23/2012 7:41:04 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/23/2012 3:05:10 AM, Ren wrote:
Geez, this otherwise interesting thread was all but destroyed. :\

Well, anyway...

From the article, it seems that there's some implication that the life of a star is actually one long pulse.

In other words, assuming that a lightning bug's chemical-based glows are independent events, one could assume that by their description (heat up for a long time, and then pop like popcorn! lol?), a hyperaccelerated view of a galaxy might look akin to a bunch of lightning bugs pulsing in and out -- but, in this case, it would be in and out of existence.

If stars aren't formed in clusters, it does kind of beg the question for spontaneous manifestation attributable to some sort of sentient being, ironically. :P

Interesting. :)

1. Stars are formed in clusters
2. Even if they are not, it does not beg any questions about god

Well, no, they can also be born within associations.

The reason why I make this distinction is considering your logic -- the belief that the proximity or arrangement of the stars somehow contributes to their manifestation.

Well, not quite. They must be the correct conditions, that's true -- i.e., a celestial cloud with unimaginably high gravity fluctuations -- but the actual impetus for their forming isn't necessarily isolated.

As they describe it, sun manifestation is just something that kind of happens when it gets hot and dense enough.

A massive collection of plasma, helium fission, and solar-system supporting gravity from "too much heat?"

Meh. God, heat. Lol, microcosmically, as far as our perception is concerned, what's the difference? ;)
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1/23/2012 12:52:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/23/2012 12:29:09 PM, Ren wrote:
At 1/23/2012 7:41:04 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/23/2012 3:05:10 AM, Ren wrote:
Geez, this otherwise interesting thread was all but destroyed. :\

Well, anyway...

From the article, it seems that there's some implication that the life of a star is actually one long pulse.

In other words, assuming that a lightning bug's chemical-based glows are independent events, one could assume that by their description (heat up for a long time, and then pop like popcorn! lol?), a hyperaccelerated view of a galaxy might look akin to a bunch of lightning bugs pulsing in and out -- but, in this case, it would be in and out of existence.

If stars aren't formed in clusters, it does kind of beg the question for spontaneous manifestation attributable to some sort of sentient being, ironically. :P

Interesting. :)

1. Stars are formed in clusters
2. Even if they are not, it does not beg any questions about god

Well, no, they can also be born within associations.

The reason why I make this distinction is considering your logic -- the belief that the proximity or arrangement of the stars somehow contributes to their manifestation.

Well, not quite. They must be the correct conditions, that's true -- i.e., a celestial cloud with unimaginably high gravity fluctuations -- but the actual impetus for their forming isn't necessarily isolated.

As they describe it, sun manifestation is just something that kind of happens when it gets hot and dense enough.

A massive collection of plasma, helium fission, and solar-system supporting gravity from "too much heat?"

Meh. God, heat. Lol, microcosmically, as far as our perception is concerned, what's the difference? ;)

Ah, I understand the distinction now. Thanks for clearing it up :)

lol
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1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM
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Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.
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1/23/2012 5:02:31 PM
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At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

Did he create the stars at the same time as the sun?
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1/23/2012 5:10:14 PM
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At 1/23/2012 5:02:31 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

Did he create the stars at the same time as the sun?

Mmmhmm.

Genesis 1:14-19 - 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons,[a] and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. 17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.

Still, light was around on the first day for some reason, just a tiny little problem.
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1/23/2012 5:16:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/23/2012 5:10:14 PM, Physik wrote:
At 1/23/2012 5:02:31 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

Did he create the stars at the same time as the sun?

Mmmhmm.

Genesis 1:14-19 - 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons,[a] and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. 17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.

Still, light was around on the first day for some reason, just a tiny little problem.

Sounds to me as though God is responsible for the Earth, but not necessarily the Universe.
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1/23/2012 5:18:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

So, in order for light to exist, the Sun has to be there? Ok.
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1/23/2012 7:18:22 PM
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At 1/23/2012 5:18:01 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

So, in order for light to exist, the Sun has to be there? Ok.

No, a light source has to be there.
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1/23/2012 8:16:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/23/2012 7:18:22 PM, Physik wrote:
At 1/23/2012 5:18:01 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

So, in order for light to exist, the Sun has to be there? Ok.

No, a light source has to be there.

Who says that God isn't a light source?

All you have is that the Sun, and the stars did not exist when light was created.

Whose to say that there wasn't other things acting as light sources?
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1/23/2012 11:15:13 PM
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At 1/23/2012 8:16:30 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/23/2012 7:18:22 PM, Physik wrote:
At 1/23/2012 5:18:01 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

So, in order for light to exist, the Sun has to be there? Ok.

No, a light source has to be there.

Who says that God isn't a light source?

All you have is that the Sun, and the stars did not exist when light was created.

Whose to say that there wasn't other things acting as light sources?

If your going to propose that god is the light source, you're are going to be proposing the genesis is entirely symbolic, and as such does not have a place in regards to a scientific discussion.

Light appears on the first day, along with the cycle of day and night. Of course, the cycle of day and night does not exist without the sun.

What other light sources are you suggesting existed?
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1/24/2012 4:34:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/23/2012 11:15:13 PM, Physik wrote:
At 1/23/2012 8:16:30 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/23/2012 7:18:22 PM, Physik wrote:
At 1/23/2012 5:18:01 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

So, in order for light to exist, the Sun has to be there? Ok.

No, a light source has to be there.

Who says that God isn't a light source?

All you have is that the Sun, and the stars did not exist when light was created.

Whose to say that there wasn't other things acting as light sources?

If your going to propose that god is the light source, you're are going to be proposing the genesis is entirely symbolic, and as such does not have a place in regards to a scientific discussion.

I don't think the purpose of the Bible was to postulate unifying theory or mathematically delineate the cosmos.
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1/24/2012 4:34:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/24/2012 4:34:18 AM, Ren wrote:
At 1/23/2012 11:15:13 PM, Physik wrote:
At 1/23/2012 8:16:30 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/23/2012 7:18:22 PM, Physik wrote:
At 1/23/2012 5:18:01 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/23/2012 4:57:39 PM, Physik wrote:
Inferno, the bible's explanation for stars is pretty flimsy.

Day 1 - God creates light.

Day 4 - God creates light source.

So, in order for light to exist, the Sun has to be there? Ok.

No, a light source has to be there.

Who says that God isn't a light source?

All you have is that the Sun, and the stars did not exist when light was created.

Whose to say that there wasn't other things acting as light sources?

If your going to propose that god is the light source, you're are going to be proposing the genesis is entirely symbolic, and as such does not have a place in regards to a scientific discussion.

I don't think the purpose of the Bible was to postulate unifying theory or mathematically delineate the cosmos.

...lol, which makes him right, it kind of doesn't belong here.
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1/24/2012 11:29:47 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Who says that God isn't a light source?

Um, I don't think I've ever seen "God" listed anywhere as a bonified source of light.
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1/24/2012 11:38:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/24/2012 11:29:47 AM, Lasagna wrote:
Who says that God isn't a light source?

Um, I don't think I've ever seen "God" listed anywhere as a bonified source of light.

God Is Light. And He created the sun, moon, and stars. Next please.