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3/5/2012 11:33:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
We now have over 400 natural disasters per year in the US as of today.
About 40 years ago, it was only about half that many. But the weather reporters say that because this year's Winter is so warm, we should expect more of the same.
I have never seen it this bad as far as tornadoes are concerned. We had about 50-100 reports of tornadoes hitting the Southern and MidWestern states over the weekend. The results were catastrophic ! About 40 people are confirmed dead
But these gaseous pollutants are causing the Earth to warm up at an alarming rate.
This is Man made, because we are the ones who are doing the damage and it shows. Toxins pollute the Earth. Period.
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3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.

Look to the examples of Chris Landsea, William Gray, and Phil Klotzbach. Science has been raped by political researchers, to the point where we can somehow, accurately predict the future global climate, we can explain the cause of any natural disaster as man-made, and yet we can't actually provide reliable, useful predictions.
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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3/6/2012 11:51:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.

Look to the examples of Chris Landsea, William Gray, and Phil Klotzbach. Science has been raped by political researchers, to the point where we can somehow, accurately predict the future global climate, we can explain the cause of any natural disaster as man-made, and yet we can't actually provide reliable, useful predictions.

The warming comes from gases being used on our land.
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3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change
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3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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3/6/2012 7:14:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 6:47:53 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Tornadic. Tornadic. Tooorrnnnaadddiiiiiccc.

I can't stop saying it now.

FREEDO, are you off your meds again?
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
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3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...

F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.
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3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.
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3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.

I showed you that we didn't have 10 of the hottest years Starcraftzzz, but you still aren't willing to actually look at the satellite information.

We've never passed the 1940s highs as reported by NASA in 2000. They reported +1.5 degrees, but now they say it wasn't that high.
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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3/7/2012 5:01:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.

I showed you that we didn't have 10 of the hottest years Starcraftzzz, but you still aren't willing to actually look at the satellite information.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Yea notice how the data says you're wrong

At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We've never passed the 1940s highs as reported by NASA in 2000. They reported +1.5 degrees, but now they say it wasn't that high.

Yea notice ow nasa says you're wrong
http://data.giss.nasa.gov...
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3/7/2012 5:22:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 5:01:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.

I showed you that we didn't have 10 of the hottest years Starcraftzzz, but you still aren't willing to actually look at the satellite information.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Yea notice how the data says you're wrong

At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We've never passed the 1940s highs as reported by NASA in 2000. They reported +1.5 degrees, but now they say it wasn't that high.

Yea notice ow nasa says you're wrong
http://data.giss.nasa.gov...

What about the satellite data Starcraft? You STILL haven't addressed that.

You claim it's correct data, but then you claim it doesn't say what it says. Stop being a coward and let's talk about it.
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3/7/2012 6:15:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 5:22:30 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 5:01:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.

I showed you that we didn't have 10 of the hottest years Starcraftzzz, but you still aren't willing to actually look at the satellite information.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Yea notice how the data says you're wrong

At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We've never passed the 1940s highs as reported by NASA in 2000. They reported +1.5 degrees, but now they say it wasn't that high.

Yea notice ow nasa says you're wrong
http://data.giss.nasa.gov...

What about the satellite data Starcraft? You STILL haven't addressed that.

You claim it's correct data, but then you claim it doesn't say what it says. Stop being a coward and let's talk about it.

I see so according to you the satellite data i posted was not satellite data because it proved you wrong....
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3/7/2012 6:29:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 6:15:01 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 5:22:30 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 5:01:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.

I showed you that we didn't have 10 of the hottest years Starcraftzzz, but you still aren't willing to actually look at the satellite information.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Yea notice how the data says you're wrong

At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We've never passed the 1940s highs as reported by NASA in 2000. They reported +1.5 degrees, but now they say it wasn't that high.

Yea notice ow nasa says you're wrong
http://data.giss.nasa.gov...

What about the satellite data Starcraft? You STILL haven't addressed that.

You claim it's correct data, but then you claim it doesn't say what it says. Stop being a coward and let's talk about it.

I see so according to you the satellite data i posted was not satellite data because it proved you wrong....

Gistemp?

I'm not talking about land data, I'm talking about satellite data. UAH to be specific. You still haven't responded to that thread, Mr. Sources.
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3/7/2012 7:11:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 6:29:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 6:15:01 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 5:22:30 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 5:01:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.

I showed you that we didn't have 10 of the hottest years Starcraftzzz, but you still aren't willing to actually look at the satellite information.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Yea notice how the data says you're wrong

At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We've never passed the 1940s highs as reported by NASA in 2000. They reported +1.5 degrees, but now they say it wasn't that high.

Yea notice ow nasa says you're wrong
http://data.giss.nasa.gov...

What about the satellite data Starcraft? You STILL haven't addressed that.

You claim it's correct data, but then you claim it doesn't say what it says. Stop being a coward and let's talk about it.

I see so according to you the satellite data i posted was not satellite data because it proved you wrong....

Gistemp?

I'm not talking about land data, I'm talking about satellite data. UAH to be specific. You still haven't responded to that thread, Mr. Sources.

It is hard to respond to a post that is bogus, misleads and lies about the data with anything except posting the actual data of which I have of which proves that man caused climate change is real
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3/7/2012 7:14:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 7:11:06 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
It is hard to respond to a post that is bogus, misleads and lies about the data with anything except posting the actual data of which I have of which proves that man caused climate change is real

Are you really that scared of the UAH data? Why won't you answer my questions?
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3/7/2012 8:25:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 7:14:46 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 7:11:06 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
It is hard to respond to a post that is bogus, misleads and lies about the data with anything except posting the actual data of which I have of which proves that man caused climate change is real

Are you really that scared of the UAH data? Why won't you answer my questions?

People just go to the source i sourced there you will see that all the land, ocean, satellite and air data show that the earth has been warming and that JaxsonRaine is liar
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3/7/2012 9:45:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 8:25:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 7:14:46 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 7:11:06 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
It is hard to respond to a post that is bogus, misleads and lies about the data with anything except posting the actual data of which I have of which proves that man caused climate change is real

Are you really that scared of the UAH data? Why won't you answer my questions?

People just go to the source i sourced there you will see that all the land, ocean, satellite and air data show that the earth has been warming and that JaxsonRaine is liar

Haha, you're so scared, you know I'll prove you wrong.

If you're so confident, go answer my questions.

http://www.debate.org...

Right there for you buddy.
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3/19/2012 2:04:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/5/2012 11:33:51 AM, inferno wrote:
We now have over 400 natural disasters per year in the US as of today.
About 40 years ago, it was only about half that many. But the weather reporters say that because this year's Winter is so warm, we should expect more of the same. Our technology has developed rapidly. Many more tornadoes are being reported now than were reported in the time period mentioned. I have never seen it this bad as far as tornadoes are concerned.We had about 50-100 reports of tornadoes hitting the Southern and MidWestern states over the weekend. The results were catastrophic ! About 40 people are confirmed dead
But these gaseous pollutants are causing the Earth to warm up at an alarming rate. Since when is carbon dioxide, a basic ingredient for life and a requisite for virtually all plant growth a pollutant?
This is Man made, because we are the ones who are doing the damage and it shows. There is no proof here. You are basically saying that it is man made because it is man made, which is illogical and uses circular reasoning. Many far more logical reasons, such as solar and oceanic cycles, have been proposed. Toxins pollute the Earth. Toxins? Really? Period.
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3/19/2012 2:07:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.

That is false. Almost all of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the 1920s and 1930s. The late 90s included a super el nino year, which is completely natural and not attributable to global warming. Your statistic, however, is a common bit of misrepresentation by the media that is then spread by gullible citizens. It's been warmer in the 30s.
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3/19/2012 2:09:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/7/2012 5:01:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:49:16 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/7/2012 1:17:15 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/7/2012 11:10:49 AM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 8:33:36 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 7:38:24 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:46:50 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 3/6/2012 6:12:05 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 3/5/2012 2:22:41 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We have more storms now than in the past because our detection is better, so we know about storms and tornadoes that wouldn't have been reported in the past.
Even if you just use data starting from the 80's or 90's there is still an increase in storms etc due primary from man caused climate change

Yup. Totally.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Notice how your source does not include ALL months out of the year, and does not include moderate that cause property damage. When you don't cherry pic Tornadoes have been increasing even recently
http://www.spc.noaa.gov...
http://www.wlky.com...
Look at figure 3.

Interesting. When some 100 new doppler radar units were implemented in the early 1990s, the number of detected F0 tornadoes skyrocketed. But... it hasn't gone up since then...[/quote]
Actually when you look at all the into 2012ish you find that tornado activity has increased significanly


F0 tornadoes are supposed to be more common than F1 tornadoes, but they aren't usually reported by civilians, only detected by radar. Until the radar units went in, there were more F1 tornadoes reported than F2 tornadoes.

Now, if you were right, ALL of those lines should be showing an upward trend. None of them are.

But Starcraftzzz, the temperature has been going down since 2000, not up. So if it's due to global warming, why are the number of tornadoes going up when the temperature goes down?

I'm not sure how 10 of the hottest years aoccuring after the yer 2000 means the temp is goign down.

I showed you that we didn't have 10 of the hottest years Starcraftzzz, but you still aren't willing to actually look at the satellite information.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Yea notice how the data says you're wrong

At 3/7/2012 1:51:25 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
We've never passed the 1940s highs as reported by NASA in 2000. They reported +1.5 degrees, but now they say it wasn't that high.

Yea notice ow nasa says you're wrong
http://data.giss.nasa.gov...

There is significant evidence of corrupt practices at GISS. Jason Hanso/NASA GISS = faulty evidence.
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3/19/2012 2:31:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/19/2012 2:11:22 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
Can't wait for the Global Cooling era and the science to back that one up!

Science does not have the capacity to define every element of this world.
I would challenge any scientist on this for sure.