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Generalizations necessary for COMM

Logical-Master
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8/29/2009 12:24:54 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
COMM: Communication.

Claim: Generalizations are necessary for communication.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu...

I'm not certain as to whether or not it is reasonable to adhere to such a claim. By all means, please object or defend it.
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8/29/2009 12:28:23 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
PRO.

Every word instantly becomes a concept precisely insofar as it is not supposed to serve as a reminder of the unique and entirely individual original experience to which it owes its origin; but rather, a word becomes a concept insofar as it simultaneously has to fit countless more or less similar cases — which means, purely and simply, cases which are never equal and thus altogether unequal. Every concept arises from the equation of unequal things. Just as it is certain that one leaf is never totally the same as another, so it is certain that the concept "leaf" is formed by arbitrarily discarding these individual differences and by forgetting the distinguishing aspects. - Nietzsche
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8/29/2009 1:16:08 PM
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All communication is a generalization. Nouns, verbs, etc.
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8/29/2009 9:55:33 PM
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Agreed. In order to communication to be short enough to be useful, it must exist as a generalization. Words themselves, as Rez explained with the Nietzche quote, exist as a verbal shortcut for larger concepts. Names are the best example of this. Someones name is used as a shorter alternative to describing every aspect of that person, and all a name is is simply the generalization of that persons characteristics. It is obviously not a direct generalization, but is nevertheless a generalization.
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8/30/2009 7:55:10 AM
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This is one of the things I love about DDO. I have these half-formed answers to complicated philosophical questions and while I know that I have my stance, my lack of experience prohibits me from justifying it. I've learned a lot just from the handful of posts in this very thread.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
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9/8/2009 11:27:28 AM
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Agree.
These generalizations are just simply accepted without further scrutiny or proof. I guess it's a kind of faith...good faith. :o)

You have to start somewhere.
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9/11/2009 3:57:50 AM
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No, not all communication is generalizations. But all human language is, and all labels and categorizations is.

Without generalization you can not say "I'm feel like eating an apple", as "I", "feel", "eat" "apple" are all generalizations.
So prove me wrong, then.
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9/11/2009 4:01:46 AM
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At 8/29/2009 1:16:08 PM, Kleptin wrote:
All communication is a generalization. Nouns, verbs, etc.

I think you are generalising there.
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9/11/2009 5:09:17 AM
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At 9/11/2009 4:01:46 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 8/29/2009 1:16:08 PM, Kleptin wrote:
All communication is a generalization. Nouns, verbs, etc.

I think you are generalising there.

Always.
So prove me wrong, then.
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9/11/2009 12:21:46 PM
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At 9/11/2009 5:09:17 AM, regebro wrote:
At 9/11/2009 4:01:46 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 8/29/2009 1:16:08 PM, Kleptin wrote:
All communication is a generalization. Nouns, verbs, etc.

I think you are generalising there.

Always.

Always: A generalisation to explain the concept of doing something constant;y when a certain action performed.

Now explain the concepts behind each word I have posted :)
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