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Amazing - Peter Higgs got dissed.

Sidewalker
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10/9/2012 8:18:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
The discovery of the Higgs boson was the biggest news in Physics in decades, the probabilistic certainty of the discovery is certainly strong enough to qualify, it confirms fifty years of research into a critical missing component of the Standard Model as well as provides strong evidence of the foundational assumption that hidden symmetry mechanisms are ontologically real. Instead, they awarded the physics prize to Serge Haroche and David Wineland, whose work is certainly significant, but pales in comparison to the discovery of the Higgs boson.

I think this was a matter of the committee being gutless, the rules say a maximum of only three individuals can get the award, which is a somewhat archaic rule considering the collaborative nature of modern science, and it would have been difficult to narrow the five individuals who justifiably should be recognized down to three without offending two. But I think that it is a pretty lame reason to overlook the significance of the discovery and just give it to someone else. Peter Higgs, arguably the most deserving, is 83, there may not be an opportunity to award it in the future. The discovery was late into the nomination process but I don't see that as relevent, the discovery was made during the award year and was astoundingly significant, it was one of the most important events in physics in decades.

Personally, I'm appalled, what do you think of this gutless decision the committee made?
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
Thaddeus
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10/9/2012 12:36:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Its pretty rare for someone to get a nobel prize for their discovery in the year they made it. They tend to let things settle down and wait for more information on the matter to make sure, and so they can have some manner of gauging its impact. No dis here; Higgs will just have to wait a year or two.
Sidewalker
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10/9/2012 10:08:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/9/2012 12:36:00 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
Its pretty rare for someone to get a nobel prize for their discovery in the year they made it. They tend to let things settle down and wait for more information on the matter to make sure, and so they can have some manner of gauging its impact.

Higgs postulated the boson fifty years ago, it's been a primary operating assumption ever since, it was only confirmed this year.

No dis here; Higgs will just have to wait a year or two.

A year or two is a long time to wait when you are 83, it will be tragic if he never gets to recieve it.
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
Thaddeus
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10/10/2012 5:41:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/9/2012 10:08:53 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 10/9/2012 12:36:00 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
Its pretty rare for someone to get a nobel prize for their discovery in the year they made it. They tend to let things settle down and wait for more information on the matter to make sure, and so they can have some manner of gauging its impact.

Higgs postulated the boson fifty years ago, it's been a primary operating assumption ever since, it was only confirmed this year.

No sh1t sherlock, but that is completely irrelevant. It would be very unlikely for him to receive a prize before it was proven, and would be the normal protocol for him to have to wait a few years after it was proven. A great many scientific discoveries are postulated many years before they are proven. Once they are they still have to wait for their prize. Why should Higgs be different?

No dis here; Higgs will just have to wait a year or two.

A year or two is a long time to wait when you are 83, it will be tragic if he never gets to recieve it.

Tough? Most people who receive a prize in any of the sciences are pretty old dudes.
royalpaladin
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10/10/2012 7:04:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
The people who won the award for iPS cells have waited for six years. I don't see why there should be a special exception for Higgs.