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jake5493
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1/5/2013 6:44:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
it is scientifically possible to have a soul, in a manner of speaking. most of the human genome has no other foreseeable purpose than needless complexity. is it so outlandish to presume then, that these excess genes provide the necessary variables that comprise our understanding of a "soul?" expanding upon this question, do identical twins share this soul? are their respective souls identical in nature? there are curious links in psyche of twins, links which produce the finishing-eachothers-sentences phenomenon. and studies of twins sepparated at birth show unsettlingly similar tastes and quirks, such as marrying virtually identical women, developing similar vices such as alcoholism or drug abuse. even such precise things as the same favorite food. would clones of a person share these same characteristics? would they themselves have a soul? religiously, souls are given by god? but what if god plays no role in the making of someone?
if he cared about good and evil he'd pick a side and not let the colors blend. :/
Ramshutu
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1/5/2013 9:40:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/5/2013 6:44:56 AM, jake5493 wrote:
it is scientifically possible to have a soul, in a manner of speaking. most of the human genome has no other foreseeable purpose than needless complexity. is it so outlandish to presume then, that these excess genes provide the necessary variables that comprise our understanding of a "soul?" expanding upon this question, do identical twins share this soul? are their respective souls identical in nature? there are curious links in psyche of twins, links which produce the finishing-eachothers-sentences phenomenon. and studies of twins sepparated at birth show unsettlingly similar tastes and quirks, such as marrying virtually identical women, developing similar vices such as alcoholism or drug abuse. even such precise things as the same favorite food. would clones of a person share these same characteristics? would they themselves have a soul? religiously, souls are given by god? but what if god plays no role in the making of someone?

Nothing supernatural is scientifically "possible", by definition as science only deals with nature. I use the quote marks there because this is not to say it is truly impossile, but is no more relevant, or sensible than asking whether the formation of stars is "biologically possible".

If a soul is scientifically explainable, then the scientific issue surrounding the soul is merely defining what it actually is.
phantom
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1/5/2013 5:20:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
You're assuming souls are material. That's a very obvious flaw.
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The_Fool_on_the_hill
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1/5/2013 6:57:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/5/2013 9:40:28 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/5/2013 6:44:56 AM, jake5493 wrote:
it is scientifically possible to have a soul, in a manner of speaking. most of the human genome has no other foreseeable purpose than needless complexity. is it so outlandish to presume then, that these excess genes provide the necessary variables that comprise our understanding of a "soul?" expanding upon this question, do identical twins share this soul? are their respective souls identical in nature? there are curious links in psyche of twins, links which produce the finishing-eachothers-sentences phenomenon. and studies of twins sepparated at birth show unsettlingly similar tastes and quirks, such as marrying virtually identical women, developing similar vices such as alcoholism or drug abuse. even such precise things as the same favorite food. would clones of a person share these same characteristics? would they themselves have a soul? religiously, souls are given by god? but what if god plays no role in the making of someone?

Nothing supernatural is scientifically "possible", by definition as science only deals with nature. I use the quote marks there because this is not to say it is truly impossile, but is no more relevant, or sensible than asking whether the formation of stars is "biologically possible".

If a soul is scientifically explainable, then the scientific issue surrounding the soul is merely defining what it actually is.

The Fool: Good luck demarcating what natural is suppost to mean. It is not that clear as it sounds. Its a metaphysical construct. .
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
johnlubba
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1/6/2013 7:04:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/5/2013 6:44:56 AM, jake5493 wrote:
it is scientifically possible to have a soul, in a manner of speaking. most of the human genome has no other foreseeable purpose than needless complexity. is it so outlandish to presume then, that these excess genes provide the necessary variables that comprise our understanding of a "soul?" expanding upon this question, do identical twins share this soul? are their respective souls identical in nature? there are curious links in psyche of twins, links which produce the finishing-eachothers-sentences phenomenon. and studies of twins sepparated at birth show unsettlingly similar tastes and quirks, such as marrying virtually identical women, developing similar vices such as alcoholism or drug abuse. even such precise things as the same favorite food. would clones of a person share these same characteristics? would they themselves have a soul? religiously, souls are given by god? but what if god plays no role in the making of someone?

Everybodys soul is idtentical in nature, Incuding twins, twins share a similar behaviour due to the similar body they posses, just like it is the nature of the bee to seek nectar and also another bee, due to thier identical bodies.the same with the worm who enjoys the stool, The soul acts according to the body it inhabits, just like when you possessed a baby body you acted like a baby, then a child body, then a teenager then to adult hood and finally you became an adult. We desire to have this material body and enjoy such expeiences which is privileged to human life, that is why we are spirtual souls trapped in a material world.