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# Flatness Problem: To call a spade a sp

 Posts: 102 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 1/11/2013 2:16:27 AMPosted: 5 years agoFlatness Problem: To call a spade a spade.=.There are many different spaces: 2 dimension space, 3D space,4D, 5D . . . .. .10D, 11D . . . . maybe more.There are also " closed" and "open" spaces.There are many topological spaces too.Question:Which space has the Universe as a whole?Answer:Fact number one:According to GRT a world without masses is flat.Fact number two:The average density of matter in the universe (evenincorporating a dark mass and dark energy ) is equal toor less than critical density and therefore the universeas a whole is a flat infinite continuum.Fact number three:The WMAP satellite showed that the universe as a whole is flat.===..But the physicists refuse to admit this fact .Why ?Because they don"t know that to do with " a flat infinitecontinuum". And they " burned " the real infinite flatcosmological continuum ( using different abstract models )to rid it of its infinite flatness.And from Einstein"s time they discus about cosmologicalconstant that will close the flat- open Universeinto a close- sphere.==..The Universe as a whole is an Infinite Flat Universe.Only in some rare places the Infinite Flatness is breaked.==..So, instead to say : " It is fact: the Universe as a whole is flat,they say: "To take the Universe as an infinite flat space - it isimpossible fact. There"s something wrong with the Universe. "=== =..How is possible to understand the Flatness ?How is possible to understand the Infinite Flat Universe ?What is possible to say about a cold Kelvin space T=0K ?==.In 1854, . . . . Helmholtz realized that the laws ofthermodynamics could be applied to the universe as a whole,meaning that everything around us, including the stars andgalaxies, would eventually have to run down."/ Book " Parallel Worlds" page 289 by Michio Kaku./Flatness is a Vacuum.Vacuum is an Empty space between billions and billions Galaxies.Now (!) the physicists think (!) that the Universe as whole hastemperature: T= 2,7K . The parameter T=2,7K is not constant.It is temporal and goes down. In the future it will come to T= 0K.#This cold Kelvin space T=0K has old physical - classical modelso-called " model of an Ideal Gas".Now we think that model of " Ideal Gas is an abstraction",but this abstraction suit very well to another " abstraction ",to "a cold zero Kelvin space."These two models have negative temperature, andin these two models there are "abstract ideal " virtual particles".And to have real model is needed something to change in theseabstraction models .. . .. and this change can be only quantum.#Now, let us put an elemenrary particles in the cold Kelvin space:T = 2,7K ---> 0K. Which geometrical form they can have ?The answer is: " They must be flat particles."Why?Because according to Charle"s law and the consequence of thethird law of thermodynamics as the thermodynamic temperatureof a system approaches absolute zero the volume of particlesapproaches zero too. It means the particles must have flat forms.They must have geometrical form of a circle: pi= c /d =3,14 . . . .#All formulas, equations and laws of " an Ideal Gas"is possible to use to the Infinire Vacuum T=0K.There isn"t thermodynamics without the " Ideal gas".There isn"t thermodynamics of cosmos without the " Ideal gas".The secret of God and Existence is hidden in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
 Posts: 220 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 1/11/2013 9:53:12 AMPosted: 5 years agoOne day I will understand what you are talking about. One day.
 Posts: 18,870 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 1/11/2013 10:37:55 AMPosted: 5 years agoAt 1/11/2013 2:16:27 AM, socratus wrote:Flatness Problem: To call a spade a spade.=.There are many different spaces: 2 dimension space, 3D space,4D, 5D . . . .. .10D, 11D . . . . maybe more.There are also " closed" and "open" spaces.There are many topological spaces too.Topologically speaking, there are an infinite number of "spaces" as you use them here, as they are merely a mathematical construct. You can hypothesize a "space" of an arbitrary number of dimensions. So this assertion is little more than asserting that the Natural numbers are infinite in length.Question:Which space has the Universe as a whole?Do you mean: "How many dimensions does the universe have?" and "What is the topology of the universe?"Answer:Fact number one:According to GRT a world without masses is flat.Seems about right.Fact number two:The average density of matter in the universe (evenincorporating a dark mass and dark energy ) is equal toor less than critical density and therefore the universeas a whole is a flat infinite continuum.Yes, the current measurements, within a certain degree of error, portray the universe as infinite and flat.Fact number three:The WMAP satellite showed that the universe as a whole is flat.Ok...===..But the physicists refuse to admit this fact .Why ?Wait... what? All of the data that currently leads to the acceptance of the Universe being flat is from physicists. Who do you think mans and runs the WMAP satellite?Because they don"t know that to do with " a flat infinitecontinuum". And they " burned " the real infinite flatcosmological continuum ( using different abstract models )to rid it of its infinite flatness.And from Einstein"s time they discus about cosmologicalconstant that will close the flat- open Universeinto a close- sphere.==..The Universe as a whole is an Infinite Flat Universe.Only in some rare places the Infinite Flatness is breaked.==..So, instead to say : " It is fact: the Universe as a whole is flat,they say: "To take the Universe as an infinite flat space - it isimpossible fact. There"s something wrong with the Universe. "=== =..How is possible to understand the Flatness ?How is possible to understand the Infinite Flat Universe ?What is possible to say about a cold Kelvin space T=0K ?==.In 1854, . . . . Helmholtz realized that the laws ofthermodynamics could be applied to the universe as a whole,meaning that everything around us, including the stars andgalaxies, would eventually have to run down."/ Book " Parallel Worlds" page 289 by Michio Kaku./Flatness is a Vacuum.Vacuum is an Empty space between billions and billions Galaxies.Now (!) the physicists think (!) that the Universe as whole hastemperature: T= 2,7K . The parameter T=2,7K is not constant.It is temporal and goes down. In the future it will come to T= 0K.#This cold Kelvin space T=0K has old physical - classical modelso-called " model of an Ideal Gas".Now we think that model of " Ideal Gas is an abstraction",but this abstraction suit very well to another " abstraction ",to "a cold zero Kelvin space."These two models have negative temperature, andin these two models there are "abstract ideal " virtual particles".And to have real model is needed something to change in theseabstraction models .. . .. and this change can be only quantum.#Now, let us put an elemenrary particles in the cold Kelvin space:T = 2,7K ---> 0K. Which geometrical form they can have ?The answer is: " They must be flat particles."Why?Because according to Charle"s law and the consequence of thethird law of thermodynamics as the thermodynamic temperatureof a system approaches absolute zero the volume of particlesapproaches zero too. It means the particles must have flat forms.They must have geometrical form of a circle: pi= c /d =3,14 . . . .#All formulas, equations and laws of " an Ideal Gas"is possible to use to the Infinire Vacuum T=0K.There isn"t thermodynamics without the " Ideal gas".There isn"t thermodynamics of cosmos without the " Ideal gas".... You lost me.
 Posts: 102 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 1/12/2013 7:20:40 AMPosted: 5 years agoBook "Dreams of a final theory"./ By Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /Page 66." Most scientists use quantum mechanics every day in theyworking lives without needing to worry about the fundamentalproblem of its interpretation.. . .they do not worry about it. A year or so ago . . . . .our conversation turned to a young theorist who had been quitepromising as a graduate student and who had then droppedout of sight. I asked Phil what had interfered with theex-student"s research. Phil shook his head sadly and said:" He tried to understand quantum mechanics." (!)===.Conclusion.Don"t try to understand quantum theory if you want to reach success.==.Page 138." It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannotreach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are notsufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zerosimple have no meaning."My opinion.It is true we cannot reach the zero temperature T=0K.But just because we cannot reach this Vacuum"sparameter, does it mean that it have no meaning ?If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it,does it make a sound?If unseen virtual antiparticles can appear from vacuum (!)( Vacuum"s fluctuations / transformation / polarization )and we can observe them as a real particles doesn"t it meanthat vacuum itself is a real structure, that without vacuumwe haven"t matter world.==.About that philosophy we are talking if we don't knowwhat is the vacuum,what is the quantum particle ( they say it is math point),what is an electron (electron has six formulas and many theories)what is the reason of 'dualism of particle' . . . . etc ?=.P.S.Well, that's Philosophy I've read,And Law and Medicine, and I fearTheology, too, from A to Z;Hard studies all, that have cost me dear.And so I sit, poor silly manNo wiser now than when I began./ Faust, lines 354"59. /==.The secret of God and Existence is hidden in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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