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socratus
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2/15/2013 5:56:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Schrodinger's cat
and " The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
=.
This law consist of two (2) parts:
a)
according to " The law of conservation (!) energy/mass"
Schroedinger's cat cannot die.
b)
according to " The law of transformation (!) energy/mass"
Schroedinger's cat can change its image (geometrical form).
c)
Of course, it is impossible to separate these two parts of the Law.
==.
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Ramshutu
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2/15/2013 10:32:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/15/2013 5:56:37 AM, socratus wrote:
Schrodinger's cat
and " The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
=.
This law consist of two (2) parts:
a)
according to " The law of conservation (!) energy/mass"
Schroedinger's cat cannot die.
b)
according to " The law of transformation (!) energy/mass"
Schroedinger's cat can change its image (geometrical form).
c)
Of course, it is impossible to separate these two parts of the Law.
==.
socratus.

Schroedingers thought experiment can be applied here to, as you are both making a point and not making a point at the same time.
Sidewalker
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2/15/2013 2:33:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/15/2013 5:56:37 AM, socratus wrote:
Schrodinger's cat
and " The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
=.
This law consist of two (2) parts:
a)
according to " The law of conservation (!) energy/mass"
Schroedinger's cat cannot die.

Nonsense, how do you fingure that?
b)
according to " The law of transformation (!) energy/mass"
Schroedinger's cat can change its image (geometrical form).

Nonsense, how do you fingure that?
c)
Of course, it is impossible to separate these two parts of the Law.

I suppose that's true in the sense that nonsense is indistinguishable from nonsense.
==.
socratus.

This make sno sense, and the fact that you are posting it again and again all over the web doesn't change that.

What is the point of all this?
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
socratus
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2/15/2013 3:24:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/15/2013 2:33:19 PM,
Sidewalker wrote:
What is the point of all this?
=

Comment:

according to (a)+(b),
when the cat mass change in cat energy,
his image change,
the cat is already in life,
so there is life after death

/ laurent.damois /
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2/15/2013 3:50:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/15/2013 3:24:50 PM, socratus wrote:
At 2/15/2013 2:33:19 PM,
Sidewalker wrote:
What is the point of all this?
=

Comment:

according to (a)+(b),
when the cat mass change in cat energy,
his image change,
the cat is already in life,
so there is life after death

/ laurent.damois /
===..

a) was nonsense and b) was nonsense, and added together they don't mean anything.

Neurodiversity is your thing, right?
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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2/16/2013 12:07:16 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/15/2013 3:50:42 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/15/2013 3:24:50 PM, socratus wrote:
At 2/15/2013 2:33:19 PM,
Sidewalker wrote:
What is the point of all this?
=

Comment:

according to (a)+(b),
when the cat mass change in cat energy,
his image change,
the cat is already in life,
so there is life after death

/ laurent.damois /
===..

a) was nonsense and b) was nonsense, and added together they don't mean anything.

Neurodiversity is your thing, right?

Your emotions, Mr.Sidewalker , is not proof.

And it is a pity that you , Mr.Sidewalker , cannot think logically,
because Schrodinger's cat ( as a quantum particle) is inseparable
from " The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
and this unity shows, how QT is right,
saying that there is a life after death.
.
Best wishes
socratus
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in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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2/17/2013 10:13:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/16/2013 12:07:16 AM, socratus wrote:
At 2/15/2013 3:50:42 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 2/15/2013 3:24:50 PM, socratus wrote:
At 2/15/2013 2:33:19 PM,
Sidewalker wrote:
What is the point of all this?
=

Comment:

according to (a)+(b),
when the cat mass change in cat energy,
his image change,
the cat is already in life,
so there is life after death

/ laurent.damois /
===..

a) was nonsense and b) was nonsense, and added together they don't mean anything.

Neurodiversity is your thing, right?

Your emotions, Mr.Sidewalker , is not proof.

And it is a pity that you , Mr.Sidewalker , cannot think logically,
because Schrodinger's cat ( as a quantum particle) is inseparable
from " The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
and this unity shows, how QT is right,
saying that there is a life after death.
.
Best wishes
socratus
=.

I"m not putting emotions into this at all, and I can think logically about Schrodinger"s thought experiment because I understand what the thought experiment is about, you apparently don"t.

It was about Schrodinger"s rejection of the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Theory, he devised the thought experiment with result that the cat would be in a superposition of two states, both alive and dead, to demonstrate the absurdity of the Copenhagen Interpretation. But no matter how you look at it, there is no interpretation of quantum physics that relates the 1st law or the equivalence of energy/mass in such a way that "a) Schrodinger's cat cannot die" or "b) Schrodinger's cat can change its image (geometrical form)".

They are both just nonsense conclusions that have no basis in any facts whatsoever, and added together they are still nonsense.

You do these posts all over the internet, and as far as I can tell nobody sees these connections you try to say are there, and you never explain it, I just don"t see the point of it all.

If you are just going to keep posting it all over the internet and will continue to refuse to explain what the hell you are talking about, then how about a compromise, at least spell Schrodinger correctly, there"s no "e" in his name.
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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2/17/2013 11:46:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/17/2013 10:13:40 AM, Sidewalker wrote:

I"m not putting emotions into this at all,
and I can think logically about Schrodinger"s thought experiment because
I understand what the thought experiment is about, you apparently don"t.

It was about Schrodinger"s rejection of the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Theory,
he devised the thought experiment with result that the cat would be
in a superposition of two states, both alive and dead,
o demonstrate the absurdity of the Copenhagen Interpretation.
But no matter how you look at it, there is no interpretation of quantum physics
that relates the 1st law or the equivalence of energy/mass in such a way that
"a) Schrodinger's cat cannot die" or
"b) Schrodinger's cat can change its image (geometrical form)".

They are both just nonsense conclusions that have no basis in
any facts whatsoever, and added together they are still nonsense.

You do these posts all over the internet, and as far as I can tell nobody
sees these connections you try to say are there, and you never explain it,
I just don"t see the point of it all.

If you are just going to keep posting it all over the internet and will continue
to refuse to explain what the hell you are talking about, then how about
a compromise, at least spell Schrodinger correctly, there"s no "e" in his name.

=====

socratus
Schrodinger's cat ( as a quantum particle) is inseparable from
" The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
and this unity shows, how QT is right,
saying that there is a life after death.

Robittybob1
Do you really believe that Socrates?
I find you too obscure to understand properly.

socratus
You are right saying
" I find you too obscure to understand properly."
Because
" The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
need's detailed explanation.
For example :
how to understand the unity between electron and
" The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
during its interaction with vacuum ? . . . . .
. . . what was happened with electron during its interaction
with vacuum ?

Renormalization . . . Hmm . . . .?
==.
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in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
Sidewalker
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2/17/2013 12:53:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/17/2013 11:46:05 AM, socratus wrote:
At 2/17/2013 10:13:40 AM, Sidewalker wrote:

I"m not putting emotions into this at all,
and I can think logically about Schrodinger"s thought experiment because
I understand what the thought experiment is about, you apparently don"t.

It was about Schrodinger"s rejection of the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Theory,
he devised the thought experiment with result that the cat would be
in a superposition of two states, both alive and dead,
o demonstrate the absurdity of the Copenhagen Interpretation.
But no matter how you look at it, there is no interpretation of quantum physics
that relates the 1st law or the equivalence of energy/mass in such a way that
"a) Schrodinger's cat cannot die" or
"b) Schrodinger's cat can change its image (geometrical form)".

They are both just nonsense conclusions that have no basis in
any facts whatsoever, and added together they are still nonsense.

You do these posts all over the internet, and as far as I can tell nobody
sees these connections you try to say are there, and you never explain it,
I just don"t see the point of it all.

If you are just going to keep posting it all over the internet and will continue
to refuse to explain what the hell you are talking about, then how about
a compromise, at least spell Schrodinger correctly, there"s no "e" in his name.

=====

socratus
Schrodinger's cat ( as a quantum particle) is inseparable from
" The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
and this unity shows, how QT is right,
saying that there is a life after death.

Robittybob1
Do you really believe that Socrates?
I find you too obscure to understand properly.

socratus
You are right saying
" I find you too obscure to understand properly."
Because
" The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
need's detailed explanation.
For example :
how to understand the unity between electron and
" The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
during its interaction with vacuum ? . . . . .
. . . what was happened with electron during its interaction
with vacuum ?

Renormalization . . . Hmm . . . .?
==.

Yes, you definitely need to renormalize because this is not normal, it's abnormal.
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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2/18/2013 12:32:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/17/2013 12:53:45 PM, Sidewalker wrote:

Yes, you definitely need to renormalize because this is not normal, it's abnormal.
====.

Feynman about infinities and renormalization
==.
So we really do not know exactly what it is that we are
assuming that gives us the difficulty producing infinities.
A nice problem !
However, it turns out that it is possible to sweep the infinities
under the rug , by a certain crude skill , and temporarily we are
able to keep on calculating.
/ The Character of Physical Law.
Lecture 7. Seeking new laws, page 156.
By Richard Feynman /
The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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2/19/2013 1:05:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
We are very careful people.
We do every thing to escape infinity and nothingness.
And, indeed, who had no fear of the Infinite, of the nothingness?
But what to do if they exist ?
To cry or to laugh ?
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2/19/2013 3:12:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/15/2013 5:56:37 AM, socratus wrote:
Schrodinger's cat
and " The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass"
=.
This law consist of two (2) parts:
a)
according to " The law of conservation (!) energy/mass"
Schroedinger's cat cannot die.
b)
according to " The law of transformation (!) energy/mass"
Schroedinger's cat can change its image (geometrical form).
c)
Of course, it is impossible to separate these two parts of the Law.
==.
socratus.

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