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funnybrad333
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11/11/2008 2:31:09 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Never mind, I fully and wholeheartedly condone the practice of eugenics.
If I didn't answer what you said, try bolding the important part.
JBlake
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11/11/2008 3:51:58 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Well there are a a few versions of it.

But generally it comes down to an action taken to improve the gene pool. Sometimes it has been used to force selective breeding, others use a form of it for 'family planning'. By 'family planning' I mean educating people on the many forms of birth control and genetic testing for potential birth defects.
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11/11/2008 4:01:42 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Yes, and I am a proponent of eugenics to the greatest degree, even if a holocaust or genocide is the consequences of said practice.
If I didn't answer what you said, try bolding the important part.
Dnick94
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11/11/2008 4:12:12 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 11/11/2008 4:01:42 PM, funnybrad333 wrote:
Yes, and I am a proponent of eugenics to the greatest degree, even if a holocaust or genocide is the consequences of said practice.

Holocaust and genocide sucks.
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Dnick94
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11/11/2008 4:22:27 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 11/11/2008 4:12:47 PM, funnybrad333 wrote:
Only for the losing side.

Fine; Hey kiddos, when you're racist toward a certain race, plan a massive genocide in the United States.
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JBlake
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11/25/2008 8:44:38 AM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 11/11/2008 4:22:27 PM, Dnick94 wrote:
At 11/11/2008 4:12:47 PM, funnybrad333 wrote:
Only for the losing side.

Fine; Hey kiddos, when you're racist toward a certain race, plan a massive genocide in the United States.

I'm pretty sure brad was just trying to make a radical statement in order to get a rise out of you. This seems to be his role in this community.
JBlake
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11/25/2008 8:47:54 AM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 11/11/2008 4:22:27 PM, Dnick94 wrote:
At 11/11/2008 4:12:47 PM, funnybrad333 wrote:
Only for the losing side.

Fine; Hey kiddos, when you're racist toward a certain race, plan a massive genocide in the United States.

Plus, eugenics =/= genocide. Like I said, genetic testing can be very beneficial in reducing birth defects.
Ragnar_Rahl
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11/25/2008 3:31:38 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Genocide against the race of Defective Birth!

lol.
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JBeukema
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4/7/2009 10:06:37 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Eugenics is a science with the potential to bring great benefits to mankind. Like many sciences, however, it has been twisted by ruel and malicious men to serve horrible ends. If Hitler makes eugenics invalid, then mustard gas makes chemistry just as wicked, Hiroshima leads to a condemnation of nuclear power, the electric chair stands against electricity- then we have rocketry, gunpowder, and metallurgy.

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JBeukema
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4/7/2009 10:08:23 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Blake::
Well there are a a few versions of it.

But generally it comes down to an action taken to improve the gene pool. Sometimes it has been used to force selective breeding, others use a form of it for 'family planning'. By 'family planning' I mean educating people on the many forms of birth control and genetic testing for potential birth defects.

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Not accurate. Eugenics simply studies heredity, genetics, and other factors contributing to human welfare. 'positive -' and 'negative- eugenics' were policies and ideologies, not fields within the science itself
JBlake
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4/8/2009 5:18:59 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Eugenics:
the study of or belief in the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population, esp. by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics).
http://dictionary.reference.com...

Eugenics: It's definition, scope, and aims:
EUGENICS is the science which deals with all influences that improve the inborn qualities of a race; also with those that develop them to the utmost advantage.
http://www.galton.org...
Kleptin
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4/8/2009 9:37:12 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I'm all for eugenics in the form of genetic modification. No Eugenics in the form of restriction, only in the granting of more freedoms.
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4/9/2009 12:38:38 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 4/8/2009 9:37:12 PM, Kleptin wrote:
I'm all for eugenics in the form of genetic modification. No Eugenics in the form of restriction, only in the granting of more freedoms.

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blackbombchu
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1/8/2015 3:51:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/11/2008 1:21:42 PM, JBlake wrote:
What are your thoughts on Eugenics?
I totally agree with eugenics of traits that people are suffering from not having. Once people start existing, they should have a really happy life. I think people without one of the highest desired traits like good vision alike in http://evolution-of-the-senses.blogspot.ca... and mobility like in http://evolution-of-the-senses.blogspot.ca... should be permitted to have to more than 2 kids. Technology has removed the evolutionary pressure and I fear that if the evolutionary pressure remains gone, people will eventually evolve to have as horrible vision as that of an ant. Please don't let our generation selfishly take away the good vision of future generations just because they're totally helplessly unable to fight for their rights. Almost all of you already didn't want more than 2 kids so what's the harm in the eugenics.
Sidewalker
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1/8/2015 7:22:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/11/2008 1:21:42 PM, JBlake wrote:
What are your thoughts on Eugenics?

I find it interesting that it's usually the very people Eugenics would want to breed out of the population that are in support of Eugenics.
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AnDoctuir
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1/9/2015 4:09:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/8/2015 7:22:55 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 11/11/2008 1:21:42 PM, JBlake wrote:
What are your thoughts on Eugenics?

I find it interesting that it's usually the very people Eugenics would want to breed out of the population that are in support of Eugenics.

It's quite common to play God over your circumstances; to be politics towards how it should have been. It is certainly interesting, though.
Accipiter
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1/9/2015 7:18:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/11/2008 1:21:42 PM, JBlake wrote:
What are your thoughts on Eugenics?

You don't need eugenics when genetic engineering is avalible. Genetic engineering is going to become necessary for the human race to survive.
Harper
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1/13/2015 12:07:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/11/2008 1:21:42 PM, JBlake wrote:
What are your thoughts on Eugenics?

The human mind is rife with many mental deficiencies, including, but definitely not limited to: the fact that the brain is chemically wired for addiction, cognitive dissonance, lack of emotional control, inherent herd mind, masochistic/self-destructive/suicidal behavior, etc. I think these are all a result of both nature and nurture, and if we want to eliminate most of the evil and insanity in the world I think you'd have to both manipulate the way people are raised (via childcare system) and human nature (via genetic modification). Humanity is insane and must either have its insanity mitigated or resign its right to exist.

Eugenics will be an integral part of the solution for this species-- you genetically modify a new generation of humans and sterilize all the rest so that they don't pollute the gene pool.

Some of my other proposals and posts on the human condition:
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