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7/11/2013 11:04:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Irrationality -contradictions-is no hindrance to something being 'true'

This scholar shows Irrationality -contradictions-is no hindrance to something being 'true'
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Mathematics
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"With all these paradoxes and inconsistencies Bunch notes that it is "" amazing that mathematics works so well." Since the mathematical way of looking at the world generates contradictory results from that of science, such as the mathematical notion of the continuum, and quantum mechanical concept of quanta. As Bunch notes "" the discoveries of quantum theory or the special theory of relativity were all made through extensive use of mathematics that was built on the concept of the continuum"that mathematical way of looking at the world and the scientific way of looking at the world produced contradictory resultsB. Bunch, Mathematical Fallacies and Paradoxes, Dover, 1982, p.209-210

""Newton and Leibniz developed the calculus". Their ideas were attacked for being full of paradoxes." Newton"s formulation of calculus was self-contradictory yet it worked. Newton worked with small increments going of to a zero limit. Berkeley showed that this leads to logical inconsistency. The main problem Bunch notes was "that a quantity was very close to zero, but not zero, during the first part of the operation then it became zero at the end." B, Bunch , Mathematical Fallacies and Paradoxes Dover, 1982, p.192. These paradoxes where resolved by the time old expediency of mathematics by defining them away in the nineteenth century by Cauchy and Weierstrass. Up until then calculus was used pragmatically such that "instead of having demonstrations justify results, results were used to justify demonstrations.I. Gratten-Guinness, From the Calculus to set theory 1630-1910, Duckworth, 1980, p.296.

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there is a whole book wriiten on Quantum paradoxes

F. Selleri, Quantum Paradoxes and Physical Reality, Kluer Academic Publishers, 1990,

quote-from other scientists

Now even though quantum mechanics is paradoxical no experiment has contradicted quantum theory predictions and quantum theory is the most successful that has ever existed in science.

"Similarly there is ample evidence of theories giving the predicted results even though they collapse into absurdity i.E. Are self-contradictory or paradoxical such as those in quantum mechanics- just as there is in mathematics. Heisenberg notes that " the strangest experience of those years was that the paradoxes of quantum theory did not disappear during this process of clarification; on the contrary they have become even more marked and exciting." F. Selleri, Quantum Paradoxes and Physical Reality, Kluer Academic Publishers, 1990, p.V111.

Wick state the orthodox view when he says "here my opinion of the orthodox quantum mechanics, ...The belief concealed is that Nature has been found in a contradiction. But quantum physicists are not simpletons. In their hearts they know such a claim is philosophically unacceptable and would be rejected in other sciences."
Wick notes " I believe orthodox quantum theorists [slates] reason, ... The microscopic world exhibits paradoxes or contradictions and this fact is reflected in the best theory describing it." A. Wick, The Infamous Boundary, Birkhauser, Berlin, 1995, p.184
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7/11/2013 11:14:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Are you Colin Leslie Dean? You seem to have an obsession with his works.
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7/12/2013 7:32:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/11/2013 11:04:28 PM, shakuntala wrote:
Irrationality -contradictions-is no hindrance to something being 'true'

Agreed. Indeed, if contradictions are true then everything is true.
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7/12/2013 6:50:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/11/2013 11:04:28 PM, shakuntala wrote:
Irrationality -contradictions-is no hindrance to something being 'true'

This scholar shows Irrationality -contradictions-is no hindrance to something being 'true'
http://www.scribd.com...

Mathematics
quote
"With all these paradoxes and inconsistencies Bunch notes that it is "" amazing that mathematics works so well." Since the mathematical way of looking at the world generates contradictory results from that of science, such as the mathematical notion of the continuum, and quantum mechanical concept of quanta. As Bunch notes "" the discoveries of quantum theory or the special theory of relativity were all made through extensive use of mathematics that was built on the concept of the continuum"that mathematical way of looking at the world and the scientific way of looking at the world produced contradictory resultsB. Bunch, Mathematical Fallacies and Paradoxes, Dover, 1982, p.209-210

""Newton and Leibniz developed the calculus". Their ideas were attacked for being full of paradoxes." Newton"s formulation of calculus was self-contradictory yet it worked. Newton worked with small increments going of to a zero limit. Berkeley showed that this leads to logical inconsistency. The main problem Bunch notes was "that a quantity was very close to zero, but not zero, during the first part of the operation then it became zero at the end." B, Bunch , Mathematical Fallacies and Paradoxes Dover, 1982, p.192. These paradoxes where resolved by the time old expediency of mathematics by defining them away in the nineteenth century by Cauchy and Weierstrass. Up until then calculus was used pragmatically such that "instead of having demonstrations justify results, results were used to justify demonstrations.I. Gratten-Guinness, From the Calculus to set theory 1630-1910, Duckworth, 1980, p.296.


Science
there is a whole book wriiten on Quantum paradoxes

F. Selleri, Quantum Paradoxes and Physical Reality, Kluer Academic Publishers, 1990,


quote-from other scientists

Now even though quantum mechanics is paradoxical no experiment has contradicted quantum theory predictions and quantum theory is the most successful that has ever existed in science.

"Similarly there is ample evidence of theories giving the predicted results even though they collapse into absurdity i.E. Are self-contradictory or paradoxical such as those in quantum mechanics- just as there is in mathematics. Heisenberg notes that " the strangest experience of those years was that the paradoxes of quantum theory did not disappear during this process of clarification; on the contrary they have become even more marked and exciting." F. Selleri, Quantum Paradoxes and Physical Reality, Kluer Academic Publishers, 1990, p.V111.

Wick state the orthodox view when he says "here my opinion of the orthodox quantum mechanics, ...The belief concealed is that Nature has been found in a contradiction. But quantum physicists are not simpletons. In their hearts they know such a claim is philosophically unacceptable and would be rejected in other sciences."
Wick notes " I believe orthodox quantum theorists [slates] reason, ... The microscopic world exhibits paradoxes or contradictions and this fact is reflected in the best theory describing it." A. Wick, The Infamous Boundary, Birkhauser, Berlin, 1995, p.184

The Fool: we can actually Process Irrational Numbers. IN OUR MINDS as THEY DON"T END.. We RATIONALIZE them..PIE 3.14. Short Form.

Not forever form.
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL