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Is it possible to clone Abraham Lincoln?

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7/25/2013 7:01:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
His blood stains are still on the flag at Ford's Theatre even to this day. The flag was tested two times, and both of the tests show that it was human blood (1). If DNA lasts for many centuries, then this could be very possible, no? We could take the DNA from the blood stain and then voila.

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1. http://pikecountyhistoricalsociety.org...
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7/25/2013 7:20:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Depends if it is still viable DNA, and if it is you would still have to find a viable surrogate mother for the embryo to go into. Even then there is no guerontee that the child will act anything like Abe. Cloning full grown human beings is sciencew fiction my friend.
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7/25/2013 7:24:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/25/2013 7:22:06 PM, Enji wrote:
Is Abraham Lincoln the body and DNA of Abraham Lincoln, or the person and his knowledge/experiences?

The clone would only look like him, or atleast have the same genes, there is no assurance that the clone will even look anything like Lincoln.
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7/27/2013 12:06:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Certain genes also apparently turn on and off, meaning that identical twins can be "genetically" different, sort of. The same genes, but one could turn on/off and cause depression.
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7/27/2013 11:00:32 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/25/2013 7:01:26 PM, GOP wrote:
His blood stains are still on the flag at Ford's Theatre even to this day. The flag was tested two times, and both of the tests show that it was human blood (1). If DNA lasts for many centuries, then this could be very possible, no? We could take the DNA from the blood stain and then voila.

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1. http://pikecountyhistoricalsociety.org...

Why would you want to? That is like asking if it was possible to clone Hitler.... Which would be much more likely, seeing as we his death was more recent, and his DNA was preserved by the Russians.

Assuming you were able to clone Lincoln, he would not be the same as the original Lincoln. Identical twins, while having identical DNA, are sometimes widely different in personality, due to prenatal and postnatal environmental differences. That is not to say personality is nurture over nature, but rather a combination of the two.

Identical twins can also have different illnesses both physical and mental. My brother (who is my identical twin) has autism, but I don't. In the womb I had more placenta than my brother, which could have contributed to his autism. I have scoliosis (which is genetic) even though my twin does not. We have completely different personalities as well.
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8/2/2013 12:43:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Yes it COULD be possible, however there would be several issues and some things which may make the human being which comes from this process not Abe.

First Issue
Firstly, you need to consider epigenetics. Epigenetics is the influences that outside forces have on how we express our genetic makeup [1]. Notice how identical twins still have different personalities and look [2]. I know this because I have twin sisters. To list a couple differences they have is they do not share handedness, slight difference in height and weight, but the biggest part is there personalities. One is an introvert and another an extrovert. So basically despite cloning the materials necessary to make Abe it is likely he will not act and behave as he once did. Consider all of the influences of the diet he will have, the diet of the mother will have, the embryonic fluid, different social pressures, styles of teaching, etc. all of this can have an effect on how a person develops.

Second Issue
When this child would be born he would be 56 years old. Our aging is due to the wearing down of a thing called telomeres which are on teh end caps of DNA. they are kind of like the aglet of DNA. The telomeres are just junk DNA that dot not code for anything and they are there because when DNA copies it does so imperfectly. There is always a little bit of the telomere that gets cut off and once all of the telomere is cut off the DNA begins to become unusable and thus causes aging [3]. The reason he would be born 56 is because the DNA that would be used is that old. By the time this new Abe reached and actual age of 20, his body would be similar of health of a 76 year old. This telomere issue is why most cloned animals die younger than their naturally produced counterparts [4].

So with this all in mind, I suppose you could say that you COULD clone Abe but I would question If should really be considered Abe as with epigenetics he will be a different person in personality and appearance. Not to mention he would be a 56 year old baby essentially, So it is not likely that he lives to become the Abe everyone has come to know. I am on the side that you can TRY to clone him but the end product will not be Abe.

[1] http://www.pbs.org...
[2] http://io9.com...
[3] https://www.fightaging.org...
[4] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...