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Disquisition
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9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.
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9/20/2013 5:45:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.

proof?
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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9/20/2013 5:48:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.

proof?

No point in telling you, unless you believe the bible is inerrant.
cybertron1998
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9/20/2013 5:49:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:48:04 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.

proof?

No point in telling you, unless you believe the bible is inerrant.

I don't because the bible isn't inerrant and we have found proof for that matter.
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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9/20/2013 5:53:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:49:43 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:48:04 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.

proof?

No point in telling you, unless you believe the bible is inerrant.

I don't because the bible isn't inerrant and we have found proof for that matter

Proof? more like deception
cybertron1998
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9/20/2013 5:57:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:53:46 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:49:43 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:48:04 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.

proof?

No point in telling you, unless you believe the bible is inerrant.

I don't because the bible isn't inerrant and we have found proof for that matter

Proof? more like deception

you keep on denying history and science and it will get you REALLY far.....but no it won't. the amount of people who believe the bible is inerrant are vastly outnumbered by those who believe otherwise. i'm going to take the majority
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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9/20/2013 6:09:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:57:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
you keep on denying history and science and it will get you REALLY far.....but no it won't. the amount of people who believe the bible is inerrant are vastly outnumbered by those who believe otherwise. i'm going to take the majority

I'm not denying the discoveries science makes or what events took place in history.
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9/20/2013 6:11:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:09:12 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:57:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
you keep on denying history and science and it will get you REALLY far.....but no it won't. the amount of people who believe the bible is inerrant are vastly outnumbered by those who believe otherwise. i'm going to take the majority

I'm not denying the discoveries science makes or what events took place in history.

all of history?
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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9/20/2013 6:19:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:11:55 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:09:12 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:57:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
you keep on denying history and science and it will get you REALLY far.....but no it won't. the amount of people who believe the bible is inerrant are vastly outnumbered by those who believe otherwise. i'm going to take the majority

I'm not denying the discoveries science makes or what events took place in history.

all of history?

Look I'll save some time for a plausible reason for you. I was born into believing the bible in it's entirety. I still believed in it and I'm at a point in my life where I'm trying to find out the truth.

Now I made that claim above based on other bible believing Christians that have evidence, but ultimately their ideas stem from the bible.
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9/20/2013 6:24:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:19:35 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:11:55 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:09:12 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:57:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
you keep on denying history and science and it will get you REALLY far.....but no it won't. the amount of people who believe the bible is inerrant are vastly outnumbered by those who believe otherwise. i'm going to take the majority

I'm not denying the discoveries science makes or what events took place in history.

all of history?

Look I'll save some time for a plausible reason for you. I was born into believing the bible in it's entirety.

No you weren't. You were born merely into existence.

I still believed in it and I'm at a point in my life where I'm trying to find out the truth.

Why did you go looking for truth if you already knew it?

Now I made that claim above based on other bible believing Christians that have evidence, but ultimately their ideas stem from the bible.

Nonsense. Have a look at the world yourself, dude. Sure, there's God to be found, but He's not necessarily read from a book, and, in fact, in reading Him from a book you're more likely to delude yourself. Too much thought is cancerous, feeling is where it's at.
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9/20/2013 6:26:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:19:35 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:11:55 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:09:12 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:57:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
you keep on denying history and science and it will get you REALLY far.....but no it won't. the amount of people who believe the bible is inerrant are vastly outnumbered by those who believe otherwise. i'm going to take the majority

I'm not denying the discoveries science makes or what events took place in history.

all of history?

Look I'll save some time for a plausible reason for you. I was born into believing the bible in it's entirety. I still believed in it and I'm at a point in my life where I'm trying to find out the truth.

Now I made that claim above based on other bible believing Christians that have evidence, but ultimately their ideas stem from the bible.

oh come one there are thousands of things that ultimately disprove genesis
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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9/20/2013 6:31:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.

What of demons are aliens in disguise...?
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9/20/2013 6:31:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:26:37 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
oh come one there are thousands of things that ultimately

Well it comes down to this for me, if there is a God out there and he cares and the bible is true then I'd rather be living for him then against him. I'm not against learning other views, perspectives or ideas. I love education but I will still live my life according to a biblical standard.
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9/20/2013 6:32:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:24:04 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:19:35 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:11:55 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:09:12 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:57:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
you keep on denying history and science and it will get you REALLY far.....but no it won't. the amount of people who believe the bible is inerrant are vastly outnumbered by those who believe otherwise. i'm going to take the majority

I'm not denying the discoveries science makes or what events took place in history.

all of history?

Look I'll save some time for a plausible reason for you. I was born into believing the bible in it's entirety.

No you weren't. You were born merely into existence.

I still believed in it and I'm at a point in my life where I'm trying to find out the truth.

Why did you go looking for truth if you already knew it?

Now I made that claim above based on other bible believing Christians that have evidence, but ultimately their ideas stem from the bible.

Nonsense. Have a look at the world yourself, dude. Sure, there's God to be found, but He's not necessarily read from a book, and, in fact, in reading Him from a book you're more likely to delude yourself. Too much thought is cancerous, feeling is where it's at.

Truth was the wrong word I meant purpose
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9/20/2013 6:40:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:31:27 PM, Df0512 wrote:
What of demons are aliens in disguise...?

No, the whole concept is demonic and beckons deception.
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9/20/2013 6:59:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:32:51 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:24:04 PM, AnDoctuir wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:19:35 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:11:55 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:09:12 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 5:57:10 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
you keep on denying history and science and it will get you REALLY far.....but no it won't. the amount of people who believe the bible is inerrant are vastly outnumbered by those who believe otherwise. i'm going to take the majority

I'm not denying the discoveries science makes or what events took place in history.

all of history?

Look I'll save some time for a plausible reason for you. I was born into believing the bible in it's entirety.

No you weren't. You were born merely into existence.

I still believed in it and I'm at a point in my life where I'm trying to find out the truth.

Why did you go looking for truth if you already knew it?

Now I made that claim above based on other bible believing Christians that have evidence, but ultimately their ideas stem from the bible.

Nonsense. Have a look at the world yourself, dude. Sure, there's God to be found, but He's not necessarily read from a book, and, in fact, in reading Him from a book you're more likely to delude yourself. Too much thought is cancerous, feeling is where it's at.

Truth was the wrong word I meant purpose

What's the difference? I think you're just saying things.
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9/20/2013 7:00:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:40:06 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:31:27 PM, Df0512 wrote:
What of demons are aliens in disguise...?

No, the whole concept is demonic and beckons deception.

How?
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9/20/2013 7:18:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Don't trust a scientist who says "they're 95% sure." Science is an X or Y game, not a maybe X or maybe Y game.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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9/21/2013 12:39:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 6:40:06 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 6:31:27 PM, Df0512 wrote:
What of demons are aliens in disguise...?

No, the whole concept is demonic and beckons deception.

Did you really just argue that aliens are demonic? So if we meet up with Vulcans, you'll yell in their faces about how they're unholy and try to kill them?
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9/21/2013 12:39:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 7:18:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Don't trust a scientist who says "they're 95% sure." Science is an X or Y game, not a maybe X or maybe Y game.

Actually, that's completely and utterly wrong.
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9/21/2013 5:39:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.

Oh please.
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9/21/2013 9:34:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 12:39:36 AM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 9/20/2013 7:18:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Don't trust a scientist who says "they're 95% sure." Science is an X or Y game, not a maybe X or maybe Y game.

Actually, that's completely and utterly wrong.

No, it's not. Scientists have no authority saying anything until they have definitive observations that prove their hypothesis. IF they have those observations, they still need more to make inferences.

This person has a little of the former, none of the latter.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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9/22/2013 8:05:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/21/2013 9:34:14 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:39:36 AM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 9/20/2013 7:18:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Don't trust a scientist who says "they're 95% sure." Science is an X or Y game, not a maybe X or maybe Y game.

Actually, that's completely and utterly wrong.

No, it's not. Scientists have no authority saying anything until they have definitive observations that prove their hypothesis. IF they have those observations, they still need more to make inferences.

I have never posted in a DDO-Forum before and maybe it won't even work properly (yay, first post anyway :-) ), but since two hours ago I sat on an actual particle physics data analysis, I felt inclined to jump in and say: Never, ever trust a scientist who says "they're 100% sure.". Science is always purely probabilistic for the sake of measuring processes.
But if one argument is true with probability 99.999999%, shouldn't we rather go with that?
"Me fail English? That's unpossible." Ralph Wiggum.
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9/22/2013 11:00:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/22/2013 8:05:26 AM, Debaterpillar wrote:
At 9/21/2013 9:34:14 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:39:36 AM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 9/20/2013 7:18:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Don't trust a scientist who says "they're 95% sure." Science is an X or Y game, not a maybe X or maybe Y game.

Actually, that's completely and utterly wrong.

No, it's not. Scientists have no authority saying anything until they have definitive observations that prove their hypothesis. IF they have those observations, they still need more to make inferences.

I have never posted in a DDO-Forum before and maybe it won't even work properly (yay, first post anyway :-) ), but since two hours ago I sat on an actual particle physics data analysis, I felt inclined to jump in and say: Never, ever trust a scientist who says "they're 100% sure.". Science is always purely probabilistic for the sake of measuring processes.
But if one argument is true with probability 99.999999%, shouldn't we rather go with that?

If somebody cannot be one hundred percent sure, then scientists have no authority making inferences/implications- only observations.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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9/22/2013 11:58:01 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/22/2013 11:00:52 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/22/2013 8:05:26 AM, Debaterpillar wrote:
At 9/21/2013 9:34:14 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:39:36 AM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 9/20/2013 7:18:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Don't trust a scientist who says "they're 95% sure." Science is an X or Y game, not a maybe X or maybe Y game.

Actually, that's completely and utterly wrong.

No, it's not. Scientists have no authority saying anything until they have definitive observations that prove their hypothesis. IF they have those observations, they still need more to make inferences.

I have never posted in a DDO-Forum before and maybe it won't even work properly (yay, first post anyway :-) ), but since two hours ago I sat on an actual particle physics data analysis, I felt inclined to jump in and say: Never, ever trust a scientist who says "they're 100% sure.". Science is always purely probabilistic for the sake of measuring processes.
But if one argument is true with probability 99.999999%, shouldn't we rather go with that?

If somebody cannot be one hundred percent sure, then scientists have no authority making inferences/implications- only observations.

Well there goes all human progress ever achieved on this earth.
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9/22/2013 12:02:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/22/2013 11:00:52 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/22/2013 8:05:26 AM, Debaterpillar wrote:
At 9/21/2013 9:34:14 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:39:36 AM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 9/20/2013 7:18:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Don't trust a scientist who says "they're 95% sure." Science is an X or Y game, not a maybe X or maybe Y game.

Actually, that's completely and utterly wrong.

No, it's not. Scientists have no authority saying anything until they have definitive observations that prove their hypothesis. IF they have those observations, they still need more to make inferences.

I have never posted in a DDO-Forum before and maybe it won't even work properly (yay, first post anyway :-) ), but since two hours ago I sat on an actual particle physics data analysis, I felt inclined to jump in and say: Never, ever trust a scientist who says "they're 100% sure.". Science is always purely probabilistic for the sake of measuring processes.
But if one argument is true with probability 99.999999%, shouldn't we rather go with that?

If somebody cannot be one hundred percent sure, then scientists have no authority making inferences/implications- only observations.

history would like to say otherwise
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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9/22/2013 12:16:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/22/2013 11:00:52 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/22/2013 8:05:26 AM, Debaterpillar wrote:
At 9/21/2013 9:34:14 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 9/21/2013 12:39:36 AM, Citrakayah wrote:
At 9/20/2013 7:18:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Don't trust a scientist who says "they're 95% sure." Science is an X or Y game, not a maybe X or maybe Y game.

Actually, that's completely and utterly wrong.

No, it's not. Scientists have no authority saying anything until they have definitive observations that prove their hypothesis. IF they have those observations, they still need more to make inferences.

I have never posted in a DDO-Forum before and maybe it won't even work properly (yay, first post anyway :-) ), but since two hours ago I sat on an actual particle physics data analysis, I felt inclined to jump in and say: Never, ever trust a scientist who says "they're 100% sure.". Science is always purely probabilistic for the sake of measuring processes.
But if one argument is true with probability 99.999999%, shouldn't we rather go with that?

If somebody cannot be one hundred percent sure, then scientists have no authority making inferences/implications- only observations.
If a scientist tells a guy that jumping out of a window will result in the guy's death in 99% of all cases, then I hope this guy will not jump only because it's not 100% sure he'll die.
On the other hand "I'm being the one percent!" would be quite catchy last words...
"Me fail English? That's unpossible." Ralph Wiggum.
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9/22/2013 3:58:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/20/2013 5:40:11 PM, Disquisition wrote:
At 9/20/2013 12:01:52 PM, johnlubba wrote:
The Truth is out there, but lies are in your head.


http://www.independent.co.uk...

Don't need to read, aliens are only demons in disguise.

Demons are micro-organisms?