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One Step Closer to Confiming String Theory

Subutai
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9/29/2013 1:12:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
"Scientists have discovered a most advanced accelerator technology smaller than a grain of rice. It can boost electrons up to speeds 10 times faster than present-day conventional technology... These power boosters offer an extraordinary level of acceleration, clocking in 300 million electron volts per meter. By comparison, that is around 10 times faster than that of the SLAC linear accelerator, which requires two miles to match what the tiny chip accelerators can do in 100 feet."

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Because strings have been hypothesized to be around 10^-35 meters wide, with conventional particle accelerator technology, it would take a linear accelerator the length of our galaxy to detect them. With this new smaller and better accelerator, we are one step closer to experimentally confirming (or refuting) string theory. Then again, the theoretical derivation is pretty strong.
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cybertron1998
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9/29/2013 6:20:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/29/2013 1:12:22 PM, Subutai wrote:
"Scientists have discovered a most advanced accelerator technology smaller than a grain of rice. It can boost electrons up to speeds 10 times faster than present-day conventional technology... These power boosters offer an extraordinary level of acceleration, clocking in 300 million electron volts per meter. By comparison, that is around 10 times faster than that of the SLAC linear accelerator, which requires two miles to match what the tiny chip accelerators can do in 100 feet."

http://www.designntrend.com...

Because strings have been hypothesized to be around 10^-35 meters wide, with conventional particle accelerator technology, it would take a linear accelerator the length of our galaxy to detect them. With this new smaller and better accelerator, we are one step closer to experimentally confirming (or refuting) string theory. Then again, the theoretical derivation is pretty strong.

what does it mean by discovered? like they found it somewhere or were they building/creating something related and just stumbled upon it ie some of the newer elements on the periodic table
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drafterman
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9/29/2013 9:03:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/29/2013 6:20:46 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 9/29/2013 1:12:22 PM, Subutai wrote:
"Scientists have discovered a most advanced accelerator technology smaller than a grain of rice. It can boost electrons up to speeds 10 times faster than present-day conventional technology... These power boosters offer an extraordinary level of acceleration, clocking in 300 million electron volts per meter. By comparison, that is around 10 times faster than that of the SLAC linear accelerator, which requires two miles to match what the tiny chip accelerators can do in 100 feet."

http://www.designntrend.com...

Because strings have been hypothesized to be around 10^-35 meters wide, with conventional particle accelerator technology, it would take a linear accelerator the length of our galaxy to detect them. With this new smaller and better accelerator, we are one step closer to experimentally confirming (or refuting) string theory. Then again, the theoretical derivation is pretty strong.

what does it mean by discovered? like they found it somewhere or were they building/creating something related and just stumbled upon it ie some of the newer elements on the periodic table

Simply put, to probe the universe on the small scales required to confirm string theory, we need a LOT of energy, energy currently beyond our capabilities. This technological advance brings that goal a lot closer.
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9/30/2013 5:07:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/29/2013 1:12:22 PM, Subutai wrote:
"Scientists have discovered a most advanced accelerator technology smaller than a grain of rice. It can boost electrons up to speeds 10 times faster than present-day conventional technology... These power boosters offer an extraordinary level of acceleration, clocking in 300 million electron volts per meter. By comparison, that is around 10 times faster than that of the SLAC linear accelerator, which requires two miles to match what the tiny chip accelerators can do in 100 feet."

http://www.designntrend.com...

This is exciting, the folks who funded the ten billion for the LHC must be kicking themselves right now. Who'd have thought the most expensive scientific instrument ever built would become obsolete in only five years.

Because strings have been hypothesized to be around 10^-35 meters wide, with conventional particle accelerator technology, it would take a linear accelerator the length of our galaxy to detect them.

Considering the length of the journey, it's a baby step.

With this new smaller and better accelerator, we are one step closer to experimentally confirming (or refuting) string theory.

Except that there isn't even anything to confirm or refute, there isn't a single string theory to confirm, there are five nebulous groups of very smart people conjuring with numbers and pulling wild speculation out of their posteriors. That, and it's trendy and funded are about the only things that can really be confirmed about string theory.

Then again, the theoretical derivation is pretty strong.

That must be a typo, I presume you meant to say "the theoretical derivation is pretty wrong"....and even that is giving it too much credit.

Wolfgang Pauli said it best, "It isn't even wrong".
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9/30/2013 1:06:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/30/2013 5:07:28 AM, Sidewalker wrote:
At 9/29/2013 1:12:22 PM, Subutai wrote:
"Scientists have discovered a most advanced accelerator technology smaller than a grain of rice. It can boost electrons up to speeds 10 times faster than present-day conventional technology... These power boosters offer an extraordinary level of acceleration, clocking in 300 million electron volts per meter. By comparison, that is around 10 times faster than that of the SLAC linear accelerator, which requires two miles to match what the tiny chip accelerators can do in 100 feet."

http://www.designntrend.com...

This is exciting, the folks who funded the ten billion for the LHC must be kicking themselves right now. Who'd have thought the most expensive scientific instrument ever built would become obsolete in only five years.

Because strings have been hypothesized to be around 10^-35 meters wide, with conventional particle accelerator technology, it would take a linear accelerator the length of our galaxy to detect them.

Considering the length of the journey, it's a baby step.


Sure, but even assuming that the two accelerators are the same quality (which they aren't - the new one is better), that's still an improvement in size of around 99% (meaning it's 99% smaller)
With this new smaller and better accelerator, we are one step closer to experimentally confirming (or refuting) string theory.

Except that there isn't even anything to confirm or refute, there isn't a single string theory to confirm, there are five nebulous groups of very smart people conjuring with numbers and pulling wild speculation out of their posteriors. That, and it's trendy and funded are about the only things that can really be confirmed about string theory.


Sure, there's a lot of hype about it, but that's only because it's potentially revolutionary. There are many good scientists working in this field.
Then again, the theoretical derivation is pretty strong.

That must be a typo, I presume you meant to say "the theoretical derivation is pretty wrong"....and even that is giving it too much credit.

Wolfgang Pauli said it best, "It isn't even wrong".

No. The main criticism against string theory is that it is currently not experimentally verifiable. The derivation involved in string theory is the reason it's around.
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