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When does the fetus feel pain?

bladerunner060
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10/18/2013 5:03:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/18/2013 4:47:35 PM, Sitara wrote:
I want to know the truth.

It's almost impossible to know the truth for this question--pain is inherently subjective. Retreating from a noxious stimulus is not necessarily experiencing pain, so it depends on how you define things. I think most folks would think a measure of consciousness is necessary in order to experience pain, and the cortex forms a bit after 20 weeks... around 24, possibly/probably later. Prior to that, there may be a reaction, but that's not the same as "feeling pain".
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bladerunner060
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10/18/2013 5:05:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
So: I would say that they can experience it around the third trimester as a general rule, but it would be tough to depend that absolutely without clarifying meanings.
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AnDoctuir
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10/18/2013 5:08:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I personally don't believe in accidents, rendering the consideration moot.

It's messed up, yo!
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10/18/2013 5:12:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Fun fact: the White Walkers in GoT are abortion doctors. Anyone else catch that? The frozen dead people they conjure are a reference to frozen sperm or something f*cking LOL
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10/18/2013 6:49:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/18/2013 5:05:28 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
So: I would say that they can experience it around the third trimester as a general rule, but it would be tough to depend that absolutely without clarifying meanings.

Do you know where I can find out more?
bladerunner060
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10/18/2013 7:11:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/18/2013 6:49:19 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/18/2013 5:05:28 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
So: I would say that they can experience it around the third trimester as a general rule, but it would be tough to depend that absolutely without clarifying meanings.

Do you know where I can find out more?

http://www.rcog.org.uk...

Might be a good place to start...It kinda depends what you're looking for.
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10/18/2013 7:24:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Here is a slightly less trust worthy source than what Mr.bladerunner gave, but it should still be very helpful:

http://en.wikipedia.org...

From what I have read, the main things to remember for "neonatal perception" of pain are: 1) pain is always subjective; 2) it requires cognitive abilities; 3) it requires consciousness; and 4) it requires physical sensors; also, arguably, 5) it may require memory.

If we're talking about fetuses, I think the consensus is that the physical sensors come rather early, but the fetus only gains the necessary cognitive abilities well into the second trimester. Consciousness is much harder to pin down, since it could be anywhere between cognition and memory. Actual memory may come months after the baby is born.
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