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Clinical evidence for the soul

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2/10/2014 2:37:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
In the science forum at Installgentoo's request.
Any sufficiently complex phenomenon is indistinguishable from magic--Me

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2/10/2014 2:42:10 PM
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At 2/10/2014 2:37:04 PM, theta_pinch wrote:
In the science forum at Installgentoo's request.

Read John Eckles and Karl Popper's "The Self and it's Brain".
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2/10/2014 2:51:19 PM
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At 2/10/2014 2:42:10 PM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 2/10/2014 2:37:04 PM, theta_pinch wrote:
In the science forum at Installgentoo's request.

Read John Eckles and Karl Popper's "The Self and it's Brain".

Could you paraphrase it because I don't have the book.
Any sufficiently complex phenomenon is indistinguishable from magic--Me

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."
Niel deGrasse Tyson
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2/10/2014 2:55:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/10/2014 2:42:10 PM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 2/10/2014 2:37:04 PM, theta_pinch wrote:
In the science forum at Installgentoo's request.

Read John Eckles and Karl Popper's "The Self and it's Brain".

I did more research and I found this: Eccles called the fundamental neural units of the cerebral cortex "dendrons", which are cylindrical bundles of neurons arranged vertically in the six outer layers or laminae of the cortex, each cylinder being about 60 micrometres in diameter. Eccles proposed that each of the 40 million dendrons is linked with a mental unit, or "psychon", representing a unitary conscious experience. In willed actions and thought, psychons act on dendrons and, for a moment, increase the probability of the firing of selected neurons through quantum tunneling effect in synaptic exocytosis, while in perception the reverse process takes place.
Any sufficiently complex phenomenon is indistinguishable from magic--Me

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."
Niel deGrasse Tyson
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2/10/2014 6:54:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/10/2014 2:55:02 PM, theta_pinch wrote:
At 2/10/2014 2:42:10 PM, Installgentoo wrote:
At 2/10/2014 2:37:04 PM, theta_pinch wrote:
In the science forum at Installgentoo's request.

Read John Eckles and Karl Popper's "The Self and it's Brain".

I did more research and I found this: Eccles called the fundamental neural units of the cerebral cortex "dendrons", which are cylindrical bundles of neurons arranged vertically in the six outer layers or laminae of the cortex, each cylinder being about 60 micrometres in diameter. Eccles proposed that each of the 40 million dendrons is linked with a mental unit, or "psychon", representing a unitary conscious experience. In willed actions and thought, psychons act on dendrons and, for a moment, increase the probability of the firing of selected neurons through quantum tunneling effect in synaptic exocytosis, while in perception the reverse process takes place.

And if a monkey shows the same quantum tunneling effect when learning how to use a stick to poke in the termite hill to get the termites to eat, does that mean it has a soul?

If we can implement it in a computer to give it consciousness, does the computer have a soul?
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2/10/2014 6:55:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
besides everybody knows that the soul is in the heart, or possibly the kidneys, which is why you can still be yourself when one is removed.
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2/11/2014 1:39:10 AM
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At 2/10/2014 2:37:04 PM, theta_pinch wrote:
In the science forum at Installgentoo's request.

Okay, are simplistic questions allowed? Would there be any difference between the concept of soul or mind? I feel there is material evidence for the mind.
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