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5/2/2014 1:07:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Many people try and justify certain beliefs with Near Death Experiences and Out Of Body Experiences, but what does science have to say about this?

Near Death Experiences:
NDEs are easily explained with neurology. When someone is close to death your brain activity actually increases. In experiments with rats it showed that the gamma frequency brain waves, which carry the most information, actually doubled during cardiac arrest.

http://io9.com...
http://www.bbc.com...

Out Of Body Experiences:
OOBEs are still not 100% understood, but that does not mean that they are not explainable. Scientists can induce OOBEs by using a virtual-reality-style set up of cameras linked to a head-mounted video display. Dr. Ehrsson's experiment involves participants wearing goggles containing a video screen for each eye. Each screen is fed images from a separate camera behind the participant and, because the two images were combined by the brain into a single image, they see a 3D image of their own back. Dr. Ehrsson then moves a plastic rod towards a location just below the cameras while the participant's real chest was simultaneously touched in the corresponding position. The participants report feeling that they are located back where the cameras are been placed, watching a body that belonged to someone else.

http://www.theguardian.com...
http://www.livescience.com...

Scientists at the University of Ottawa tracked down a woman who is able to enter this out of body experience state at will. In the experiment they hooked her up to the brain scanner and she saw herself floating in the air above herself, watching herself move while feeling completely unaware of her physical body. The MRI showed a deactivation of her visual cortex, while the part of her brain responsible for imagining body movement lit up.

http://www.geekosystem.com...

In conclusion, OOBEs and NDEs are explainable phenomena. They do not need any supernatural explanations for their happenings.
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iamanatheistandthisiswhy
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5/15/2014 8:33:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/2/2014 1:07:45 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Many people try and justify certain beliefs with Near Death Experiences and Out Of Body Experiences, but what does science have to say about this?

Near Death Experiences:
NDEs are easily explained with neurology. When someone is close to death your brain activity actually increases. In experiments with rats it showed that the gamma frequency brain waves, which carry the most information, actually doubled during cardiac arrest.

http://io9.com...
http://www.bbc.com...

Out Of Body Experiences:
OOBEs are still not 100% understood, but that does not mean that they are not explainable. Scientists can induce OOBEs by using a virtual-reality-style set up of cameras linked to a head-mounted video display. Dr. Ehrsson's experiment involves participants wearing goggles containing a video screen for each eye. Each screen is fed images from a separate camera behind the participant and, because the two images were combined by the brain into a single image, they see a 3D image of their own back. Dr. Ehrsson then moves a plastic rod towards a location just below the cameras while the participant's real chest was simultaneously touched in the corresponding position. The participants report feeling that they are located back where the cameras are been placed, watching a body that belonged to someone else.

http://www.theguardian.com...
http://www.livescience.com...

Scientists at the University of Ottawa tracked down a woman who is able to enter this out of body experience state at will. In the experiment they hooked her up to the brain scanner and she saw herself floating in the air above herself, watching herself move while feeling completely unaware of her physical body. The MRI showed a deactivation of her visual cortex, while the part of her brain responsible for imagining body movement lit up.

http://www.geekosystem.com...


In conclusion, OOBEs and NDEs are explainable phenomena. They do not need any supernatural explanations for their happenings.

Well said, now try explaining that to someone that's not rational and scientifically minded. :(
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5/15/2014 8:35:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/15/2014 8:33:14 PM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:
At 5/2/2014 1:07:45 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Many people try and justify certain beliefs with Near Death Experiences and Out Of Body Experiences, but what does science have to say about this?

Near Death Experiences:
NDEs are easily explained with neurology. When someone is close to death your brain activity actually increases. In experiments with rats it showed that the gamma frequency brain waves, which carry the most information, actually doubled during cardiac arrest.

http://io9.com...
http://www.bbc.com...

Out Of Body Experiences:
OOBEs are still not 100% understood, but that does not mean that they are not explainable. Scientists can induce OOBEs by using a virtual-reality-style set up of cameras linked to a head-mounted video display. Dr. Ehrsson's experiment involves participants wearing goggles containing a video screen for each eye. Each screen is fed images from a separate camera behind the participant and, because the two images were combined by the brain into a single image, they see a 3D image of their own back. Dr. Ehrsson then moves a plastic rod towards a location just below the cameras while the participant's real chest was simultaneously touched in the corresponding position. The participants report feeling that they are located back where the cameras are been placed, watching a body that belonged to someone else.

http://www.theguardian.com...
http://www.livescience.com...

Scientists at the University of Ottawa tracked down a woman who is able to enter this out of body experience state at will. In the experiment they hooked her up to the brain scanner and she saw herself floating in the air above herself, watching herself move while feeling completely unaware of her physical body. The MRI showed a deactivation of her visual cortex, while the part of her brain responsible for imagining body movement lit up.

http://www.geekosystem.com...


In conclusion, OOBEs and NDEs are explainable phenomena. They do not need any supernatural explanations for their happenings.

Well said, now try explaining that to someone that's not rational and scientifically minded. :(

You think that is possible?
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iamanatheistandthisiswhy
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5/15/2014 8:58:20 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 5/15/2014 8:35:01 PM, SNP1 wrote:
At 5/15/2014 8:33:14 PM, iamanatheistandthisiswhy wrote:
At 5/2/2014 1:07:45 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Many people try and justify certain beliefs with Near Death Experiences and Out Of Body Experiences, but what does science have to say about this?

Near Death Experiences:
NDEs are easily explained with neurology. When someone is close to death your brain activity actually increases. In experiments with rats it showed that the gamma frequency brain waves, which carry the most information, actually doubled during cardiac arrest.

http://io9.com...
http://www.bbc.com...

Out Of Body Experiences:
OOBEs are still not 100% understood, but that does not mean that they are not explainable. Scientists can induce OOBEs by using a virtual-reality-style set up of cameras linked to a head-mounted video display. Dr. Ehrsson's experiment involves participants wearing goggles containing a video screen for each eye. Each screen is fed images from a separate camera behind the participant and, because the two images were combined by the brain into a single image, they see a 3D image of their own back. Dr. Ehrsson then moves a plastic rod towards a location just below the cameras while the participant's real chest was simultaneously touched in the corresponding position. The participants report feeling that they are located back where the cameras are been placed, watching a body that belonged to someone else.

http://www.theguardian.com...
http://www.livescience.com...

Scientists at the University of Ottawa tracked down a woman who is able to enter this out of body experience state at will. In the experiment they hooked her up to the brain scanner and she saw herself floating in the air above herself, watching herself move while feeling completely unaware of her physical body. The MRI showed a deactivation of her visual cortex, while the part of her brain responsible for imagining body movement lit up.

http://www.geekosystem.com...


In conclusion, OOBEs and NDEs are explainable phenomena. They do not need any supernatural explanations for their happenings.

Well said, now try explaining that to someone that's not rational and scientifically minded. :(

You think that is possible?

It is possible. However, to get the believers in NDEs to actually read the evidence and not just dismiss it because person x said it is not true is the biggest problem.
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5/16/2014 5:48:54 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Until science reverts back to classical wisdom that the brain is a conduit for an immaterial mind all these experiments would be jibber-jabber. I didn't experience this OOBE or NDE the experiment supposedly simulated. Therefore_empirically_I have one reason to be doubtful.
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