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The Holographic Universe

GeoLaureate8
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3/18/2010 7:54:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Includes appearances from: David Bohm, Gregg Braden, David Wilcock, Oxford Professor David Deutsch, John Hagelin.

Some things to think about:

Observer Effect: "Changes that the act of observation will make on the phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner. This effect can be observed in many domains of physics." - http://en.wikipedia.org...

Superposition: "[In quantum mechanics], if the outcome of an event has not been observed, it exists in a state of 'superposition', which is akin to being in all possible states at once." - http://en.wikipedia.org...

Quantum States: "In quantum theory, even pure states show statistical behaviour. Regardless of how carefully we prepare the state; of the system, measurement results are not repeatable in general, and we must understand the expectation value (A)sigma of an observable A as a statistical mean. It is this mean that is predicted by physical theories." - http://en.wikipedia.org...

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In this link, David Icke has compiled a mass of overwhelming evidence for the Holographic Universe: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

^^^
A must read!
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Floid
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3/19/2010 5:16:17 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
The only thing overwhelming about that link is how incredibly rediculous it is:

In general, if you read something that in several pages of writing attempts to merge:

1.) Government conspiracy theories
2.) Neurological studies
3.) Optics
4.) Hypnosis
5.) Deep philisophical issues (like the nature of reality)
6.) Physics
7.) The Matrix movies
8.) Miracles
9.) The paranormal

While using one sentence quotes from famous scientist to try to lend itself credibility and longer quotes from the same few books over and over for "solid" support of itself... something is wrong.

I would suggest reading Plato's Allegory of the Cave. It examines the same ideas without all the muddled confusion of the author throwing around subjects that really have no direct relation to the basic idea he is trying to examine.
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3/20/2010 9:37:05 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
So if a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to see, or hear it, then it does not fall but remains in every single possible state. It has fallen and is standing until someone observes it, then it decides, or we decide what state it is in.

I am confused.
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3/20/2010 12:14:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 9:37:05 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
So if a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to see, or hear it, then it does not fall but remains in every single possible state. It has fallen and is standing until someone observes it, then it decides, or we decide what state it is in.

I am confused.

THE UNIVERSE DECIDES

though why anybody would think that is beyond me.
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GeoLaureate8
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3/20/2010 3:31:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 9:37:05 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
So if a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to see, or hear it, then it does not fall but remains in every single possible state. It has fallen and is standing until someone observes it, then it decides, or we decide what state it is in.

Assuming that quantum mechanics applies to the macrocosm, then yes, the tree exists in a state of poteniality or superposition, and it's not until we observe it that it becomes the state that it's in.
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3/20/2010 7:27:32 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 3:31:26 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 3/20/2010 9:37:05 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
So if a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to see, or hear it, then it does not fall but remains in every single possible state. It has fallen and is standing until someone observes it, then it decides, or we decide what state it is in.

Assuming that quantum mechanics applies to the macrocosm, then yes, the tree exists in a state of poteniality or superposition, and it's not until we observe it that it becomes the state that it's in.

Except it doesn't.
GeoLaureate8
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3/20/2010 11:41:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 3/20/2010 7:27:32 PM, Puck wrote:
At 3/20/2010 3:31:26 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Assuming that quantum mechanics applies to the macrocosm, then yes, the tree exists in a state of poteniality or superposition, and it's not until we observe it that it becomes the state that it's in.

Except it doesn't.

Which is why I said, assuming that it does. Though, how come physicists believe that quantum superposition applies to reality and conclude that there are parallel universes? Surely they have good reason to assert that.
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