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Harvard Study Confirms ESP?

Sidewalker
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10/6/2014 6:22:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Interesting, what do you think of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

http://themindunleashed.org...

http://naturalsociety.com...
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
Ramshutu
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10/6/2014 6:28:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/6/2014 6:22:46 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
Interesting, what do you think of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

http://themindunleashed.org...

http://naturalsociety.com...

I think that you either haven't really read the actual content of the articles you have posted, or you have seriously misjudged the title of this topic.

This is a team of researchers reading the thoughts of someone using an EEG, translating it to binary, sending it over the internet, decoding it a few thousand miles away and then stimulating the other persons brain.

It is exceptionally clever, and a massive step forward to all sorts of craziness, but in no way "ESP" in any meaningful sense of how the word is used today.
Idealist
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10/6/2014 10:02:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/6/2014 6:22:46 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
Interesting, what do you think of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

http://themindunleashed.org...

http://naturalsociety.com...

I think it's an interesting subject, and while critics of any form of "natural" ESP will be quick to point-out that what happened in this experiment was facilitated by computers, it has long been surmised by various scientists that the correlated movements exhibited by shoals of fish and flock of birds could be due to some form of ESP, without the aid of computers or the internet. One shouldn't jump to any conclusions, though. The subject needs to be studied further.
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10/7/2014 8:19:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/6/2014 6:28:58 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 10/6/2014 6:22:46 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
Interesting, what do you think of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

http://themindunleashed.org...

http://naturalsociety.com...

I think that you either haven't really read the actual content of the articles you have posted, or you have seriously misjudged the title of this topic.

I read them and yeah, I was being facetious when I titled it. But the fact remains that it is a direct brain to brain communication that completely bypasses the sensory system, so it literally is extrasensory perception.

This is a team of researchers reading the thoughts of someone using an EEG, translating it to binary, sending it over the internet, decoding it a few thousand miles away and then stimulating the other persons brain.

Bypassing the sensory system.

It is exceptionally clever, and a massive step forward to all sorts of craziness, but in no way "ESP" in any meaningful sense of how the word is used today.

It is literally ESP.
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
Sidewalker
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10/7/2014 8:36:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/6/2014 10:02:08 PM, Idealist wrote:
At 10/6/2014 6:22:46 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
Interesting, what do you think of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

http://themindunleashed.org...

http://naturalsociety.com...

I think it's an interesting subject, and while critics of any form of "natural" ESP will be quick to point-out that what happened in this experiment was facilitated by computers, it has long been surmised by various scientists that the correlated movements exhibited by shoals of fish and flock of birds could be due to some form of ESP, without the aid of computers or the internet. One shouldn't jump to any conclusions, though. The subject needs to be studied further.

Yeah, it's probably premature to throw away your cell phone, but it raises some interesting possibilities for future applications. It also could be a crude mechanical parallel that could help us understand the process that results in true ESP experiences. Quantum entanglement demonstrates non-local physical processes and this experiment demonstrates direct brain to brain communication, there's a lot of potentially explanatory ground to be studied here.
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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10/7/2014 9:11:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/6/2014 6:22:46 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
Interesting, what do you think of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk...

http://themindunleashed.org...

http://naturalsociety.com...

Come on this is not ESP. I think the authors summed it up very well when they said "We wanted to find out if one could communicate directly between two people by reading out the brain activity from one person and injecting brain activity into the second person, and do so across great physical distances by leveraging existing communication pathways,"

Pretty much saying taking a formed brain signal (of a thought say) and then injecting that brain signal to create the thought in another person. Not simple, but brains are the same so its not hard to see how it can work.

What would be more interesting is injecting a thought between two people where the second person does not have a concept of the initial thought.
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10/8/2014 2:40:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Is everyone here punctuation mark challenged?

I didn't make a declarative statement n the title, I put a question mark on it for a reason. The article's are calling it extrasensory brain to brain communication", my opinion is only that it's interesting, and I'm wondering what others think about it.
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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10/8/2014 5:19:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/8/2014 2:40:03 PM, Sidewalker wrote:
Is everyone here punctuation mark challenged?

I didn't make a declarative statement n the title, I put a question mark on it for a reason. The article's are calling it extrasensory brain to brain communication", my opinion is only that it's interesting, and I'm wondering what others think about it.

I always have been punctuation mark challenged.

They're, their, there :D
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10/8/2014 10:06:46 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Who cares what Harvard students think or discover!

Everyone knows Cambridge is where it's at!