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badger
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4/21/2010 8:02:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/21/2010 7:53:33 PM, Puck wrote:
At 4/21/2010 7:52:02 PM, badger wrote:
how do you know?

Know what?

that life did not intend to survive.

so evolution is a beneficial defect?

Huh?

that's what my biology teacher teaches it to be, and i was trying to question whether it was a defect at all. but i just finished watching your video there and i can see how there is no intent.
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GeoLaureate8
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4/21/2010 8:11:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/21/2010 8:09:23 PM, badger wrote:
i don't think i make half as much sense to anyone else as i do to myself, which is scary.

I understand what you're saying. I don't think Puck's really answering it though.
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4/21/2010 8:12:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/21/2010 7:28:57 PM, Puck wrote:
It needs no motivation, simply the automatic processes for it to occur.

So when did the transition occur that life went from "automatic process" to motivated to survive?
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
Puck
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4/21/2010 9:31:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/21/2010 8:02:00 PM, badger wrote:
At 4/21/2010 7:53:33 PM, Puck wrote:
At 4/21/2010 7:52:02 PM, badger wrote:
how do you know?

Know what?

that life did not intend to survive.

Life is not a discrete 'thing' for that to be valid. It is an attribute of certain objects. That certain objects that are alive intend to survive or have processes that allow survival is slightly different.

so evolution is a beneficial defect?

Huh?

that's what my biology teacher teaches it to be

Not sure what your teacher intends by defect. It is a process by which change in living organism occurs.
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4/21/2010 9:55:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 4/21/2010 8:12:50 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 4/21/2010 7:28:57 PM, Puck wrote:
It needs no motivation, simply the automatic processes for it to occur.

So when did the transition occur that life went from "automatic process" to motivated to survive?

What makes you think it's a motivation. Motivation belongs in the realm of those who are cognisant of goals and can form them. There may be beneficial results from certain actions of which entities enact - calling that motivation however would be a gross equivocation.