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Fusion power by 2016?

I-am-a-panda
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5/2/2010 2:07:27 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I was on Wikipedia and after about 30 minutes found myself on 2016. i then noticed that was the planned testing date for ITER, a prototype for Nuclear Fission for use as an energy source. http://en.wikipedia.org...

Now, the advantages of fission energy are enormous, however, do you think this has potential?

This is a diagram of what it's made of for Science geeks out there. http://www.iter.org...
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5/2/2010 2:21:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The fuel - a mixture of Deuterium and Tritium, two isotopes of Hydrogen - is heated to temperatures in excess of 150 [fuggin] million°C, forming a [LOL] hot plasma. [BUT!] Strong magnetic fields are used to keep the plasma away from the walls [THEY CAN FRIGGIN KEEP HEAT AWAY WITH MAGNETS]; these are produced by superconducting coils surrounding the vessel, and by an electrical current driven through the plasma.

They say magic is nothing more than sufficiently advanced technology...
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5/2/2010 4:07:18 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/2/2010 2:21:57 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
The fuel - a mixture of Deuterium and Tritium, two isotopes of Hydrogen - is heated to temperatures in excess of 150 [fuggin] million°C, forming a [LOL] hot plasma. [BUT!] Strong magnetic fields are used to keep the plasma away from the walls [THEY CAN FRIGGIN KEEP HEAT AWAY WITH MAGNETS]; these are produced by superconducting coils surrounding the vessel, and by an electrical current driven through the plasma.

They say magic is nothing more than sufficiently advanced technology...

I don't get the lulz in this. Are the bolded thingies supposed to be sarcastic comments?
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5/2/2010 4:10:40 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/2/2010 4:07:18 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 5/2/2010 2:21:57 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
The fuel - a mixture of Deuterium and Tritium, two isotopes of Hydrogen - is heated to temperatures in excess of 150 [fuggin] million°C, forming a [LOL] hot plasma. [BUT!] Strong magnetic fields are used to keep the plasma away from the walls [THEY CAN FRIGGIN KEEP HEAT AWAY WITH MAGNETS]; these are produced by superconducting coils surrounding the vessel, and by an electrical current driven through the plasma.

They say magic is nothing more than sufficiently advanced technology...

I don't get the lulz in this. Are the bolded thingies supposed to be sarcastic comments?

He's just reveling in the awesomeness of technology. Keeping heat away with magnets seems pretty cool.
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5/2/2010 4:21:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
lol i can totally see the protests now
IF WE HAVE FUSION REACTORS IT WILL CREATE A NEW CHERNOBYL EVENT

If those magnets fail, an area the size of Manhattan would disappear in an instant, and an area the size of New Jersey would be set on fire moments after that.

uhh i dunno what these scientists are thinkng man. are they all arsonists or something?

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Just in case I get into some BS with FREEDO again about how he's NOT a narcissist.

"The law is there to destroy evil under the constitutional government."
So... what's there to destroy evil inside of and above the constitutional government?
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5/2/2010 11:26:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/2/2010 2:07:27 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
I was on Wikipedia and after about 30 minutes found myself on 2016. i then noticed that was the planned testing date for ITER, a prototype for Nuclear Fission for use as an energy source. http://en.wikipedia.org...

Now, the advantages of fission energy are enormous, however, do you think this has potential?

This is a diagram of what it's made of for Science geeks out there. http://www.iter.org...

ITER will not be the first fussion reator. It will be the first (if all goes well) commercial one. There have been test reactors for years, though they were never intended to be more then test projects to see if the real thing lined up with the math and expected results.

But anyway, this will happen, it will start off inefficent, and get better (as do all things pretty much when given time). Fusion itself is far more powerful then fission, and so it is expected that it is possible to get more energy harrnessed out of it.
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5/3/2010 7:54:33 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/2/2010 11:26:37 PM, OreEle wrote:
But anyway, this will happen, it will start off inefficent, and get better (as do all things pretty much when given time). Fusion itself is far more powerful then fission, and so it is expected that it is possible to get more energy harrnessed out of it.

You do mean Fission > Fusion?
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5/3/2010 8:01:31 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/2/2010 2:21:57 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
The fuel - a mixture of Deuterium and Tritium, two isotopes of Hydrogen - is heated to temperatures in excess of 150 [fuggin] million°C, forming a [LOL] hot plasma. [BUT!] Strong magnetic fields are used to keep the plasma away from the walls [THEY CAN FRIGGIN KEEP HEAT AWAY WITH MAGNETS]; these are produced by superconducting coils surrounding the vessel, and by an electrical current driven through the plasma.

They say magic is nothing more than sufficiently advanced technology...

Did you get that from Civilization 4?
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5/3/2010 9:34:55 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/3/2010 8:01:31 AM, Frankthebunny wrote:
At 5/2/2010 2:21:57 PM, Rezzealaux wrote:
The fuel - a mixture of Deuterium and Tritium, two isotopes of Hydrogen - is heated to temperatures in excess of 150 [fuggin] million°C, forming a [LOL] hot plasma. [BUT!] Strong magnetic fields are used to keep the plasma away from the walls [THEY CAN FRIGGIN KEEP HEAT AWAY WITH MAGNETS]; these are produced by superconducting coils surrounding the vessel, and by an electrical current driven through the plasma.

They say magic is nothing more than sufficiently advanced technology...

Did you get that from Civilization 4?

You mean the "quote"? No, I saw it attributed to some famous scifi writer, but I forgot and it's not relevant enough to google him/her up.
: If you weren't new here, you'd know not to feed me such attention. This is like an orgasm in my brain right now. *hehe, my name is in a title, hehe* (http://www.debate.org...)

Just in case I get into some BS with FREEDO again about how he's NOT a narcissist.

"The law is there to destroy evil under the constitutional government."
So... what's there to destroy evil inside of and above the constitutional government?
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5/4/2010 10:33:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 5/3/2010 7:54:33 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 5/2/2010 11:26:37 PM, OreEle wrote:
But anyway, this will happen, it will start off inefficent, and get better (as do all things pretty much when given time). Fusion itself is far more powerful then fission, and so it is expected that it is possible to get more energy harrnessed out of it.

You do mean Fission > Fusion?

No... Fusion is much more powerful than fission. Fusion is the concept where the mayor holds up a glass of water and tells the city that this glass has all the energy that they need for an entire year.

In fusion, you combine 2 particles to form a slightly lighter particle and harness the extra energy that resulted from the drop in mass... I could be wrong, but fission only harnasses the WEAK nuclear force, while fusion takes advantage of the strong nuclear force.
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5/4/2010 10:36:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
1961 Arthur C. Clark
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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