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gerrandesquire
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7/2/2010 2:32:46 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
did Einstein ever actually did a successful experiment on time travelling?

i remember an experiment involving a ship which disappeared and reappeared at the same instant from one place to another, but the people on the ship became mentally unstable, and that is why the experiment was scraped. is it true?
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7/2/2010 2:36:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Yeah, I debated on this issue a while ago.

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7/3/2010 8:15:27 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Of course it's not true!
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/3/2010 10:16:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/3/2010 9:57:51 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 7/3/2010 8:15:27 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Of course it's not true!

why not?

If we claim the experiment was successful then it stands to reason the technology would be in use now. Especially something that powerful. A few test subjects going insane matters little to a Government that tested LSD on entire villages.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/4/2010 6:03:12 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/3/2010 10:16:50 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/3/2010 9:57:51 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 7/3/2010 8:15:27 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Of course it's not true!

why not?

If we claim the experiment was successful then it stands to reason the technology would be in use now. Especially something that powerful. A few test subjects going insane matters little to a Government that tested LSD on entire villages.

but there can't be smoke without any fire. There must have been something basic that generated this 'rumor' (if that is what it is). and especially something with that great detail.
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7/4/2010 6:17:48 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/4/2010 6:03:12 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 7/3/2010 10:16:50 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/3/2010 9:57:51 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 7/3/2010 8:15:27 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Of course it's not true!

why not?

If we claim the experiment was successful then it stands to reason the technology would be in use now. Especially something that powerful. A few test subjects going insane matters little to a Government that tested LSD on entire villages.

but there can't be smoke without any fire. There must have been something basic that generated this 'rumor' (if that is what it is). and especially something with that great detail.

If we have learned anything about legends, religions and history, it's that people can invent and propagate highly detailed, popular and fictitious accounts.
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7/4/2010 8:37:32 AM
Posted: 6 years ago

If we have learned anything about legends, religions and history, it's that people can invent and propagate highly detailed, popular and fictitious accounts.

but this is relative, right? for you something may be a fictitious account, but it may have been a reality, and many people may believe in it. it may be a reality.
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7/4/2010 8:56:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/4/2010 8:37:32 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:

If we have learned anything about legends, religions and history, it's that people can invent and propagate highly detailed, popular and fictitious accounts.

but this is relative, right? for you something may be a fictitious account, but it may have been a reality, and many people may believe in it. it may be a reality.

lol :)

It may be that you're not really a person..

It may be that you're an intelligent mouse typing by jumping on the keyboard.

That May Be a reality!
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7/4/2010 9:54:22 AM
Posted: 6 years ago

lol :)

It may be that you're not really a person..

It may be that you're an intelligent mouse typing by jumping on the keyboard.

That May Be a reality!

it may be:-)
or maybe i'm actually a reincarnated form of Einstein, sent on Earth to spread awareness in narrow minded individuals hoarding the Earth.

That may be the reality!!!
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7/4/2010 9:58:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/4/2010 6:03:12 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 7/3/2010 10:16:50 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/3/2010 9:57:51 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 7/3/2010 8:15:27 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Of course it's not true!

why not?

If we claim the experiment was successful then it stands to reason the technology would be in use now. Especially something that powerful. A few test subjects going insane matters little to a Government that tested LSD on entire villages.

but there can't be smoke without any fire. There must have been something basic that generated this 'rumor' (if that is what it is). and especially something with that great detail.

Of course there can be, history is peppered with jokes, hoaxes and misunderstandings.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/4/2010 10:04:26 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/4/2010 9:58:21 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/4/2010 6:03:12 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 7/3/2010 10:16:50 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/3/2010 9:57:51 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:
At 7/3/2010 8:15:27 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Of course it's not true!

why not?

If we claim the experiment was successful then it stands to reason the technology would be in use now. Especially something that powerful. A few test subjects going insane matters little to a Government that tested LSD on entire villages.

but there can't be smoke without any fire. There must have been something basic that generated this 'rumor' (if that is what it is). and especially something with that great detail.

yeah:
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7/4/2010 10:25:08 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Are you familiar with thought experiments? Physical tests are not always necessary for logical conclusions. This video should give you the very basic idea.
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7/4/2010 10:42:35 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/4/2010 8:37:32 AM, gerrandesquire wrote:

If we have learned anything about legends, religions and history, it's that people can invent and propagate highly detailed, popular and fictitious accounts.

but this is relative, right? for you something may be a fictitious account, but it may have been a reality, and many people may believe in it. it may be a reality.

Surely, you can't be serious.
gerrandesquire
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7/4/2010 12:12:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
sorry, i did not make myself clear. I meant that, we can't say that this experiment was wholly rumoured. There may be some truth to it.

i came to it through this link...

http://www.spiritual-endeavors.org...

Do you think disappearing things is possible? the theory seems plausible.
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7/4/2010 4:47:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/4/2010 12:12:34 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
sorry, i did not make myself clear. I meant that, we can't say that this experiment was wholly rumoured.

Sure we can.

It's a fraudulent claim.

See, easy. :)
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7/4/2010 4:55:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Is this discussion about time travel or invisibility?
Because if it is invisibility I saw a thing on the news that scientists had successfully created a material that bends radio waves around it. So from that point you just have to adjust it so it bends visible light so invisibility is very possible and is probably already been achieved we just don't have high enough security clearance to know about it
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7/6/2010 8:59:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/4/2010 4:55:47 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
Is this discussion about time travel or invisibility?
Because if it is invisibility I saw a thing on the news that scientists had successfully created a material that bends radio waves around it. So from that point you just have to adjust it so it bends visible light so invisibility is very possible and is probably already been achieved we just don't have high enough security clearance to know about it
Neither. It's about Tralfamadorians.

At 7/4/2010 12:12:34 PM, gerrandesquire wrote:
sorry, i did not make myself clear. I meant that, we can't say that this experiment was wholly rumoured. There may be some truth to it.
There is: the truth is that it's a rumor. I think it's the Philadelphia experiment. They've made movies about it too.


i came to it through this link...
http://www.spiritual-endeavors.org...
Yeah that's it. It's basically a hoax.


Do you think disappearing things is possible? the theory seems plausible.
Sure, David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear. Secondly, what theory are you referring to exactly?
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7/7/2010 12:24:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/6/2010 2:34:44 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Proof for said experiment happening? No? Didn't happen then.

LACKOFPROOFDOESNOTEQUALPROOFOFNONEXPERIMENTHURRDURRHURR/
But yeah, if time-travel becomes possible we are ALL screwed.
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7/11/2010 11:23:27 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/6/2010 8:59:24 AM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 7/4/2010 4:55:47 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
Is this discussion about time travel or invisibility?

Neither. It's about Tralfamadorians.

okay so i saw there was some confusion regarding the topic. actually we were taught about this by a teacher who wasn't highly competent, and she glamourised some of the details and replaced the term philadelphia experiment with time travelling. I, being a gullible child, grew excited and serched for it and saw the hyperlinked post which further made me accept the story. And then i tried to find others point of view on the experiment, which was not what i was really expecting

No one believes this, do they? On the net too, i couldn't find a single site that believed the experiment took place, (except people claiming that they were ON the ship)
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7/11/2010 1:47:49 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/7/2010 12:24:38 AM, Atheism wrote:
At 7/6/2010 2:34:44 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Proof for said experiment happening? No? Didn't happen then.

LACKOFPROOFDOESNOTEQUALPROOFOFNONEXPERIMENTHURRDURRHURR/
But yeah, if time-travel becomes possible we are ALL screwed.

Surely if time travel is to become possible we both have been screwed and are to be screwed.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/16/2010 11:26:21 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
It violates the laws of physics as well understand them, so it is in the category of "magic." Moreover, as with all conspiracy theories, the fatal defect is that details and evidence of something so momentous could not possibly be kept secret.

The relevant quote is, "Where there is smoke, there is a smoke maker." -Samuel Goldwyn