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Accipiter
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7/5/2015 5:10:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
http://www.ted.com...

I watched this talk about antibiotic resistance and thought it might be relevant in discussions about the validity of evolution.

Without evolution antibiotic resistance would not happen.

Bacteria create a new generation every two minutes so they evolve like crazy and in fact that very thing has been observed in the laboratory.
Sooner
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8/4/2015 11:14:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/5/2015 5:10:36 AM, Accipiter wrote:
http://www.ted.com...

I watched this talk about antibiotic resistance and thought it might be relevant in discussions about the validity of evolution.

Without evolution antibiotic resistance would not happen.

Bacteria create a new generation every two minutes so they evolve like crazy and in fact that very thing has been observed in the laboratory.

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What does the term "killed by evolution" mean to you? What exactly do you feel was killed?
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8/4/2015 12:48:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/4/2015 11:14:10 AM, Sooner wrote:
At 7/5/2015 5:10:36 AM, Accipiter wrote:
http://www.ted.com...

I watched this talk about antibiotic resistance and thought it might be relevant in discussions about the validity of evolution.

Without evolution antibiotic resistance would not happen.

Bacteria create a new generation every two minutes so they evolve like crazy and in fact that very thing has been observed in the laboratory.

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What does the term "killed by evolution" mean to you? What exactly do you feel was killed?

They are referring to the killing of humans because bacteria evolve into strains which antibiotics are ineffective. It is a risk of this germiphobia world we live in. Everyone is trying to kill every little bacteria, which can not be done, creating an environment for bacteria to evolve into strains we can't control. Think about it. The most sterile place in the world, hospitals, is the best place to get a killer bacteria infection. Part of that is one is often cutting open the body giving access for bacteria to get in locations they don't get a chance to get to without creating an access point, but they often get strains that are anti biotic resistant.
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8/5/2015 12:23:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/5/2015 5:10:36 AM, Accipiter wrote:
http://www.ted.com...

I watched this talk about antibiotic resistance and thought it might be relevant in discussions about the validity of evolution.

Without evolution antibiotic resistance would not happen.

Bacteria create a new generation every two minutes so they evolve like crazy and in fact that very thing has been observed in the laboratory.

Yeah, that's what we call "Natural Selection". It doesn't prove evolution
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8/5/2015 1:08:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/5/2015 12:23:38 PM, Alpha3141 wrote:
At 7/5/2015 5:10:36 AM, Accipiter wrote:
http://www.ted.com...

I watched this talk about antibiotic resistance and thought it might be relevant in discussions about the validity of evolution.

Without evolution antibiotic resistance would not happen.

Bacteria create a new generation every two minutes so they evolve like crazy and in fact that very thing has been observed in the laboratory.

Yeah, that's what we call "Natural Selection". It doesn't prove evolution

It would probably help if you would outline what your criteria is for proof of evolution. From your other thread it appears you have a different criteria than that set out by the scientific method. It makes for a boring and pointless conversation for two sides to debate an issue when they don't have a common basis for evaluating their arguments.
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8/5/2015 6:59:50 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/5/2015 12:23:38 PM, Alpha3141 wrote:
At 7/5/2015 5:10:36 AM, Accipiter wrote:
http://www.ted.com...

I watched this talk about antibiotic resistance and thought it might be relevant in discussions about the validity of evolution.

Without evolution antibiotic resistance would not happen.

Bacteria create a new generation every two minutes so they evolve like crazy and in fact that very thing has been observed in the laboratory.

Yeah, that's what we call "Natural Selection". It doesn't prove evolution

But, it certainly is the main process that brings about evolution.
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8/5/2015 7:43:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/5/2015 12:23:38 PM, Alpha3141 wrote:
At 7/5/2015 5:10:36 AM, Accipiter wrote:
http://www.ted.com...

I watched this talk about antibiotic resistance and thought it might be relevant in discussions about the validity of evolution.

Without evolution antibiotic resistance would not happen.

Bacteria create a new generation every two minutes so they evolve like crazy and in fact that very thing has been observed in the laboratory.

Yeah, that's what we call "Natural Selection". It doesn't prove evolution

Not alone. But when you can prove that all the mechanisms necessary for evolution exist (natural selection, gene mutation, etc), and you can observe the effects of evolution in real-time (like in bacteria), and over millions of years (fossil record), and when all that information is corroborated by evidence from the fields of biology, genetics, geology, chemistry, etc, then something is proven. There is a great deal of evidence to prove evolution. Far too much to put it all here. Here's a start:

http://liberatedmind.com...

But there is tons more. And its easy to find.

Is the theory complete? Not yet. But any new information will fit into the existing model. Our understanding of how exactly evolution works will change over time. But the fact that evolution does work will not. Just the same as our understanding of gravity has changed and will likely change again does not mean that gravity does not work. For evolution and gravity both, we know they exist, we're just learning more about them as we go along.