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7/10/2015 6:08:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
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1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Another fun way to understand E=mc^2 is to calculate how fast the sun losses mass.

Using the power of the Sun (4 x 10^26 joules of energy released every second) the Sun losses 4 million tonnes of mass every second.
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7/10/2015 8:24:51 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Well, well, well.

The person who refused to answer a straight question regarding Einstein's famous equation here (http://www.debate.org...) now endorses it. How the tables have turned. First she was too afraid to enter that thread, now here she is promoting the thing she fought so hard against.

Here she could not even bring herself to answer a yes/no question on E = mc^2.

http://www.debate.org...

Well Sky, you may not realize it but you have now been owned. It took a while but you fell for the trap I set for you. What do you think the 'c' stands for in the equation? Yep, it's our old friend the speed of light. You have now acknowledged that light has a speed and it is a constant as used by Einstein in this most famous of equations. Owned. Lol.
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7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 6:08:49 AM, chui wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Another fun way to understand E=mc^2 is to calculate how fast the sun losses mass.

Using the power of the Sun (4 x 10^26 joules of energy released every second) the Sun losses 4 million tonnes of mass every second.

Don't confuse her, chui. She believes the Sun is an eternal cycle of energy. It doesn't lose mass. It is made of ball lightning according to Sky.

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.
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7/10/2015 9:27:35 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
how long until you "own" EE?

is it a sort of rent to own plan where you never own but on invisible scientific paper?
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7/10/2015 9:39:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 9:27:35 AM, Electric-Eccentric wrote:
how long until you "own" EE?

is it a sort of rent to own plan where you never own but on invisible scientific paper?

You're off-topic E-E, and not worth the trouble anyway. Please go ahead with some bizarre rant in reply which I will ignore, as I usually do with your posts.
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7/10/2015 9:44:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
off topic you say?

in what way?

p.s. rant rant rant
p.s.s. rant rant some more
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7/10/2015 1:48:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Yes. As a product of the whole E=mc^2 deal.

Most people even mildly acquaintded with Physics know all this, Sky.

Just like a donut has more "per unit" explosive potential energy than than TNT. Look it up.
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7/10/2015 1:52:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 1:48:45 PM, Saint_of_Me wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Yes. As a product of the whole E=mc^2 deal.

Most people even mildly acquaintded with Physics know all this, Sky.

Just like a donut has more "per unit" explosive potential energy than than TNT. Look it up.

http://www.universetoday.com...
Science Flies Us to the Moon. Religion Flies us Into Skyscrapers.
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7/10/2015 1:53:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 8:24:51 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Well, well, well.

The person who refused to answer a straight question regarding Einstein's famous equation here (http://www.debate.org...) now endorses it. How the tables have turned. First she was too afraid to enter that thread, now here she is promoting the thing she fought so hard against.

Here she could not even bring herself to answer a yes/no question on E = mc^2.

http://www.debate.org...

Well Sky, you may not realize it but you have now been owned. It took a while but you fell for the trap I set for you. What do you think the 'c' stands for in the equation? Yep, it's our old friend the speed of light. You have now acknowledged that light has a speed and it is a constant as used by Einstein in this most famous of equations. Owned. Lol.

Ouch!!

Jobbed!
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7/10/2015 3:55:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

You have great hypocrisy.
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7/10/2015 4:43:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 8:24:51 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Well, well, well.

The person who refused to answer a straight question regarding Einstein's famous equation here (http://www.debate.org...) now endorses it. How the tables have turned. First she was too afraid to enter that thread, now here she is promoting the thing she fought so hard against.

Here she could not even bring herself to answer a yes/no question on E = mc^2.

http://www.debate.org...

Well Sky, you may not realize it but you have now been owned. It took a while but you fell for the trap I set for you. What do you think the 'c' stands for in the equation? Yep, it's our old friend the speed of light. You have now acknowledged that light has a speed and it is a constant as used by Einstein in this most famous of equations. Owned. Lol.

I see you have still not figured out how an answer can be yes and no at the same time.

Keep trying but don't blow a fuse in the process.
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7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 6:08:49 AM, chui wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Another fun way to understand E=mc^2 is to calculate how fast the sun losses mass.

Using the power of the Sun (4 x 10^26 joules of energy released every second) the Sun losses 4 million tonnes of mass every second.

Don't confuse her, chui. She believes the Sun is an eternal cycle of energy. It doesn't lose mass. It is made of ball lightning according to Sky.

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

Energy is a cycle which apparently cannot be created or destroyed but simply recycles itself even if scientists have no clue how it does it.
They can apparently convert mass into energy with Einsteins equation but they cannot convert energy into mass.

http://www.circlon-theory.com...
"The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies. The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other."

The above article is interesting and fascinating. Take time to read it on the link.
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7/10/2015 6:39:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 6:08:49 AM, chui wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Another fun way to understand E=mc^2 is to calculate how fast the sun losses mass.

Using the power of the Sun (4 x 10^26 joules of energy released every second) the Sun losses 4 million tonnes of mass every second.

Don't confuse her, chui. She believes the Sun is an eternal cycle of energy. It doesn't lose mass. It is made of ball lightning according to Sky.

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

Energy is a cycle which apparently cannot be created or destroyed but simply recycles itself even if scientists have no clue how it does it.
They can apparently convert mass into energy with Einsteins equation but they cannot convert energy into mass.

http://www.circlon-theory.com...
"The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies. The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other."

The above article is interesting and fascinating. Take time to read it on the link.

Good job, you found someone who is almost as insane as you, not quite as ignorant, but insane, nonetheless.
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7/10/2015 8:47:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 4:43:20 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/10/2015 8:24:51 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Well, well, well.

The person who refused to answer a straight question regarding Einstein's famous equation here (http://www.debate.org...) now endorses it. How the tables have turned. First she was too afraid to enter that thread, now here she is promoting the thing she fought so hard against.

Here she could not even bring herself to answer a yes/no question on E = mc^2.

http://www.debate.org...

Well Sky, you may not realize it but you have now been owned. It took a while but you fell for the trap I set for you. What do you think the 'c' stands for in the equation? Yep, it's our old friend the speed of light. You have now acknowledged that light has a speed and it is a constant as used by Einstein in this most famous of equations. Owned. Lol.

I see you have still not figured out how an answer can be yes and no at the same time.

Keep trying but don't blow a fuse in the process.

No. You have been owned. I know it, you know it, and everyone reading these threads knows it. You're a foolish, foolish woman.
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7/11/2015 2:25:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 6:08:49 AM, chui wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Another fun way to understand E=mc^2 is to calculate how fast the sun losses mass.

Using the power of the Sun (4 x 10^26 joules of energy released every second) the Sun losses 4 million tonnes of mass every second.

Don't confuse her, chui. She believes the Sun is an eternal cycle of energy. It doesn't lose mass. It is made of ball lightning according to Sky.

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

But energy clearly does move away from its source. You lost that battle in another thread with your campfire example. You couldn't answer there and yet here you are stubbornly reasserting something already debunked. Either you are dumb, suffering amnesia or you are dishonest. You choose.

The magnetic field around a magnet is not an analogy for what happens in the Sun. A magnet does not radiate energy. If you stand in the Sun, you can feel the heat on your face. Stay out there for an hour without protection and your skin will start to burn. That is energy leaving the Sun and radiating out into space, a tiny portion hitting the surface of the Earth. With a magnet, you could hold one in your hand for a million years without harm. No light, no heat, no EM radiation of any kind.

A magnetic field is better compared to a gravitational field such as that around the Earth. Both can attract objects to them annd then work needs to be done to separate them. Energy is always conserved, but neither radiates energy. If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making these ridiculous assertions. You are a foolish, foolish woman.

Energy is a cycle which apparently cannot be created or destroyed but simply recycles itself even if scientists have no clue how it does it.
They can apparently convert mass into energy with Einsteins equation but they cannot convert energy into mass.

Yes, they can. It is done routinely at the LHC and CERN:

http://home.web.cern.ch...

When the Large Hadron Collider is running, billions of particle collisions occur every second. Of these, only a few are the kind of direct hits that scientists are looking for. These high-impact collisions convert large amounts of pure energy into mass, temporarily producing new particles such as Higgs bosons for physicists to study.

Don't you ever tire of being wrong?

http://www.circlon-theory.com...
"The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies. The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other."

The above article is interesting and fascinating. Take time to read it on the link.

The "article" is from some random nutter like you on the web. It is not even a fallacious appeal to authority. It is an appeal to quackery. Lol.
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7/11/2015 2:53:15 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/11/2015 2:25:11 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM, dee-em wrote:

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

But energy clearly does move away from its source. You lost that battle in another thread with your campfire example. You couldn't answer there and yet here you are stubbornly reasserting something already debunked. Either you are dumb, suffering amnesia or you are dishonest. You choose.

The magnetic field around a magnet is not an analogy for what happens in the Sun. A magnet does not radiate energy. If you stand in the Sun, you can feel the heat on your face. Stay out there for an hour without protection and your skin will start to burn. That is energy leaving the Sun and radiating out into space, a tiny portion hitting the surface of the Earth. With a magnet, you could hold one in your hand for a million years without harm. No light, no heat, no EM radiation of any kind.

A magnetic field is better compared to a gravitational field such as that around the Earth. Both can attract objects to them annd then work needs to be done to separate them. Energy is always conserved, but neither radiates energy. If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making these ridiculous assertions. You are a foolish, foolish woman.

Energy radiation patterns are exactly the same regardless of whether they generate heat or not. Magnetic energy is still energy.

http://www.learnabout-electronics.org...
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

They all radiate around the source in the same pattern as Earths Gravity
http://cdn-media1.teachertube.com...

If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making ridiculous assertions.
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7/11/2015 8:32:30 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/11/2015 2:53:15 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/11/2015 2:25:11 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM, dee-em wrote:

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

But energy clearly does move away from its source. You lost that battle in another thread with your campfire example. You couldn't answer there and yet here you are stubbornly reasserting something already debunked. Either you are dumb, suffering amnesia or you are dishonest. You choose.

The magnetic field around a magnet is not an analogy for what happens in the Sun. A magnet does not radiate energy. If you stand in the Sun, you can feel the heat on your face. Stay out there for an hour without protection and your skin will start to burn. That is energy leaving the Sun and radiating out into space, a tiny portion hitting the surface of the Earth. With a magnet, you could hold one in your hand for a million years without harm. No light, no heat, no EM radiation of any kind.

A magnetic field is better compared to a gravitational field such as that around the Earth. Both can attract objects to them annd then work needs to be done to separate them. Energy is always conserved, but neither radiates energy. If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making these ridiculous assertions. You are a foolish, foolish woman.


Energy radiation patterns are exactly the same regardless of whether they generate heat or not. Magnetic energy is still energy.

It's not magnetic energy you foolish woman. It's a magnetic field. At least get your terms right. You don't even understand the basics and yet you dare to pontificate. It's absurd.

http://www.learnabout-electronics.org...
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

They all radiate around the source in the same pattern as Earths Gravity
http://cdn-media1.teachertube.com...

If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making ridiculous assertions.

LOL. You really have no idea how ignorant of science you are, do you?
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7/11/2015 3:51:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/11/2015 8:32:30 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/11/2015 2:53:15 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/11/2015 2:25:11 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM, dee-em wrote:

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

But energy clearly does move away from its source. You lost that battle in another thread with your campfire example. You couldn't answer there and yet here you are stubbornly reasserting something already debunked. Either you are dumb, suffering amnesia or you are dishonest. You choose.

The magnetic field around a magnet is not an analogy for what happens in the Sun. A magnet does not radiate energy. If you stand in the Sun, you can feel the heat on your face. Stay out there for an hour without protection and your skin will start to burn. That is energy leaving the Sun and radiating out into space, a tiny portion hitting the surface of the Earth. With a magnet, you could hold one in your hand for a million years without harm. No light, no heat, no EM radiation of any kind.

A magnetic field is better compared to a gravitational field such as that around the Earth. Both can attract objects to them annd then work needs to be done to separate them. Energy is always conserved, but neither radiates energy. If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making these ridiculous assertions. You are a foolish, foolish woman.


Energy radiation patterns are exactly the same regardless of whether they generate heat or not. Magnetic energy is still energy.

It's not magnetic energy you foolish woman. It's a magnetic field. At least get your terms right. You don't even understand the basics and yet you dare to pontificate. It's absurd.

Maybe you should educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org...
http://science.jrank.org...

http://www.learnabout-electronics.org...
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

They all radiate around the source in the same pattern as Earths Gravity
http://cdn-media1.teachertube.com...

If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making ridiculous assertions.

LOL. You really have no idea how ignorant of science you are, do you?

Listen to your echo.
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7/12/2015 1:14:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/11/2015 3:51:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/11/2015 8:32:30 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/11/2015 2:53:15 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/11/2015 2:25:11 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM, dee-em wrote:

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

But energy clearly does move away from its source. You lost that battle in another thread with your campfire example. You couldn't answer there and yet here you are stubbornly reasserting something already debunked. Either you are dumb, suffering amnesia or you are dishonest. You choose.

The magnetic field around a magnet is not an analogy for what happens in the Sun. A magnet does not radiate energy. If you stand in the Sun, you can feel the heat on your face. Stay out there for an hour without protection and your skin will start to burn. That is energy leaving the Sun and radiating out into space, a tiny portion hitting the surface of the Earth. With a magnet, you could hold one in your hand for a million years without harm. No light, no heat, no EM radiation of any kind.

A magnetic field is better compared to a gravitational field such as that around the Earth. Both can attract objects to them annd then work needs to be done to separate them. Energy is always conserved, but neither radiates energy. If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making these ridiculous assertions. You are a foolish, foolish woman.


Energy radiation patterns are exactly the same regardless of whether they generate heat or not. Magnetic energy is still energy.

It's not magnetic energy you foolish woman. It's a magnetic field. At least get your terms right. You don't even understand the basics and yet you dare to pontificate. It's absurd.

Maybe you should educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org...
http://science.jrank.org...

It is you who needs the education. Did you actually read what you cited? The first link just talks about how the components of electro-magnetic energy are related. Nothing there helps your cause. From your second link:

A study of magnets allows the introduction of a new concept in energy, the concept of a field. An energy field is a region in space in which a magnetic, electrical, or some other kind of force can be experienced. For example, imagine that a piece of iron is placed at a distance of 2 in (5 cm) from a bar magnet. If the magnet is strong enough, it may pull on the iron strongly enough to cause it to move. The piece of iron is said to be within the magnetic field of the bar magnet.

Do you see anything there about "energy radiation patterns". No. That is because no energy is being radiated. It is only potential energy stored in a field. Only a nitwit would think a bar magnet which they can hold in their hands and not feel any warmth could be radiating energy. You can take this magnet into a dark room and not see any light emitted from it. Yet this nitwit thinks that an analogue of "magnetic energy" powers the sun and causes it to emit huge quantities of heat and light. Not only that but, like a perpetual motion machine, this energy pouring out into the farthest reaches of the solar system is returned back to the sun somehow. The nitwit cannot explain how though.

Apparently the energy can warm your face and blind your eyes but magically never leave its source. All that energy stored in oil and coal originally came from the Sun and was converted into chemical energy via photosynthesis as carbon bonds. But no, it never actually left the source. When we convert the energy of sunlight into electricity via solar panels, that energy is still in the Sun at the same time as it is powering a house. Energy does not leave its source, yet it can do work here on Earth. This is the brain-dead notion we have to deal with. It's just comical.

Watch this video: https://youtu.be...

This is real, not simulated. Does the Sun look anything like a magnet to you? Or does it look like heat and light are radiating into space from the surface of a very hot body? Lol.

http://www.learnabout-electronics.org...
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

They all radiate around the source in the same pattern as Earths Gravity
http://cdn-media1.teachertube.com...

If you don't understand something, ask a question instead of making ridiculous assertions.

LOL. You really have no idea how ignorant of science you are, do you?

Listen to your echo.
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7/12/2015 1:17:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/10/2015 8:34:06 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/10/2015 6:08:49 AM, chui wrote:
At 7/10/2015 4:05:12 AM, Skyangel wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com...

1 human being, has 88,403 times more explosive energy in them than a bomb that can destroy an entire city.

Another fun way to understand E=mc^2 is to calculate how fast the sun losses mass.

Using the power of the Sun (4 x 10^26 joules of energy released every second) the Sun losses 4 million tonnes of mass every second.

Don't confuse her, chui. She believes the Sun is an eternal cycle of energy. It doesn't lose mass. It is made of ball lightning according to Sky.

Of course she can't explain what happens to all that energy which pours out into space away from the Sun. Somehow it gets returned. Somehow.

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

Energy is a cycle which apparently cannot be created or destroyed but simply recycles itself even if scientists have no clue how it does it.
They can apparently convert mass into energy with Einsteins equation but they cannot convert energy into mass.

http://www.circlon-theory.com...
"The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies. The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other."

The above article is interesting and fascinating. Take time to read it on the link.

I'm curious how you explain the phenomenon known as "shadows" given your alternative model of electromagnetic radiation as a static field.
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7/12/2015 3:48:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 1:17:34 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

Energy is a cycle which apparently cannot be created or destroyed but simply recycles itself even if scientists have no clue how it does it.
They can apparently convert mass into energy with Einsteins equation but they cannot convert energy into mass.

http://www.circlon-theory.com...
"The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies. The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other."

The above article is interesting and fascinating. Take time to read it on the link.

I'm curious how you explain the phenomenon known as "shadows" given your alternative model of electromagnetic radiation as a static field.

When you place an object into an area of light, the object obviously creates shadows in the area furthest away from the light source.
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7/12/2015 3:56:11 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 1:14:02 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/11/2015 3:51:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Maybe you should educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org...
http://science.jrank.org...

It is you who needs the education. Did you actually read what you cited? The first link just talks about how the components of electro-magnetic energy are related. Nothing there helps your cause. From your second link:

A study of magnets allows the introduction of a new concept in energy, the concept of a field. An energy field is a region in space in which a magnetic, electrical, or some other kind of force can be experienced. For example, imagine that a piece of iron is placed at a distance of 2 in (5 cm) from a bar magnet. If the magnet is strong enough, it may pull on the iron strongly enough to cause it to move. The piece of iron is said to be within the magnetic field of the bar magnet.

Do you see anything there about "energy radiation patterns". No. That is because no energy is being radiated. It is only potential energy stored in a field. Only a nitwit would think a bar magnet which they can hold in their hands and not feel any warmth could be radiating energy. You can take this magnet into a dark room and not see any light emitted from it. Yet this nitwit thinks that an analogue of "magnetic energy" powers the sun and causes it to emit huge quantities of heat and light. Not only that but, like a perpetual motion machine, this energy pouring out into the farthest reaches of the solar system is returned back to the sun somehow. The nitwit cannot explain how though.

Apparently the energy can warm your face and blind your eyes but magically never leave its source. All that energy stored in oil and coal originally came from the Sun and was converted into chemical energy via photosynthesis as carbon bonds. But no, it never actually left the source. When we convert the energy of sunlight into electricity via solar panels, that energy is still in the Sun at the same time as it is powering a house. Energy does not leave its source, yet it can do work here on Earth. This is the brain-dead notion we have to deal with. It's just comical.

Watch this video: https://youtu.be...

This is real, not simulated. Does the Sun look anything like a magnet to you? Or does it look like heat and light are radiating into space from the surface of a very hot body? Lol.

If you ever mature one day you might understand the cycles in the universe.
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7/12/2015 8:00:01 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 3:56:11 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/12/2015 1:14:02 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/11/2015 3:51:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Maybe you should educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org...
http://science.jrank.org...

It is you who needs the education. Did you actually read what you cited? The first link just talks about how the components of electro-magnetic energy are related. Nothing there helps your cause. From your second link:

A study of magnets allows the introduction of a new concept in energy, the concept of a field. An energy field is a region in space in which a magnetic, electrical, or some other kind of force can be experienced. For example, imagine that a piece of iron is placed at a distance of 2 in (5 cm) from a bar magnet. If the magnet is strong enough, it may pull on the iron strongly enough to cause it to move. The piece of iron is said to be within the magnetic field of the bar magnet.

Do you see anything there about "energy radiation patterns". No. That is because no energy is being radiated. It is only potential energy stored in a field. Only a nitwit would think a bar magnet which they can hold in their hands and not feel any warmth could be radiating energy. You can take this magnet into a dark room and not see any light emitted from it. Yet this nitwit thinks that an analogue of "magnetic energy" powers the sun and causes it to emit huge quantities of heat and light. Not only that but, like a perpetual motion machine, this energy pouring out into the farthest reaches of the solar system is returned back to the sun somehow. The nitwit cannot explain how though.

Apparently the energy can warm your face and blind your eyes but magically never leave its source. All that energy stored in oil and coal originally came from the Sun and was converted into chemical energy via photosynthesis as carbon bonds. But no, it never actually left the source. When we convert the energy of sunlight into electricity via solar panels, that energy is still in the Sun at the same time as it is powering a house. Energy does not leave its source, yet it can do work here on Earth. This is the brain-dead notion we have to deal with. It's just comical.

Watch this video: https://youtu.be...

This is real, not simulated. Does the Sun look anything like a magnet to you? Or does it look like heat and light are radiating into space from the surface of a very hot body? Lol.

If you ever mature one day you might understand the cycles in the universe.

It has nothing to do with maturity, neither yours nor mine. It is about acknowledging known facts about how the universe works. Once again when confronted with incontrovertible facts, you have been argued into a standstill where you can only resort with one-liner ad homs. You are a foolish, foolish woman.
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7/12/2015 8:16:18 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 3:48:21 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/12/2015 1:17:34 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

Energy is a cycle which apparently cannot be created or destroyed but simply recycles itself even if scientists have no clue how it does it.
They can apparently convert mass into energy with Einsteins equation but they cannot convert energy into mass.

http://www.circlon-theory.com...
"The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies. The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other."

The above article is interesting and fascinating. Take time to read it on the link.

I'm curious how you explain the phenomenon known as "shadows" given your alternative model of electromagnetic radiation as a static field.

When you place an object into an area of light, the object obviously creates shadows in the area furthest away from the light source.

You obviously didn't understand the objection. There are no shadows in a magnetic field just as there are no shadows in a gravitational field. You can put a piece of cardboard in between a magnet and a nail and the magnet will still attract it. Fields of force are not affected by material objects placed within them.

Electro-magnetic radiation cannot be a static field because it travels (as you have already conceded from the 'c' in E = mc^2) and it does so in straight lines (as evidenced by shadows). You haven't got a leg to stand on.
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7/12/2015 9:25:09 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 3:48:21 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/12/2015 1:17:34 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

Energy is a cycle which apparently cannot be created or destroyed but simply recycles itself even if scientists have no clue how it does it.
They can apparently convert mass into energy with Einsteins equation but they cannot convert energy into mass.

http://www.circlon-theory.com...
"The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies. The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other."

The above article is interesting and fascinating. Take time to read it on the link.

I'm curious how you explain the phenomenon known as "shadows" given your alternative model of electromagnetic radiation as a static field.

When you place an object into an area of light, the object obviously creates shadows in the area furthest away from the light source.

Yes. How do you explain shadows given your model? I thought the question was straightforward. "Obviously there are shadows" isn't an explanation.
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7/12/2015 2:00:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 3:56:11 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/12/2015 1:14:02 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/11/2015 3:51:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Maybe you should educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org...
http://science.jrank.org...

It is you who needs the education. Did you actually read what you cited? The first link just talks about how the components of electro-magnetic energy are related. Nothing there helps your cause. From your second link:

A study of magnets allows the introduction of a new concept in energy, the concept of a field. An energy field is a region in space in which a magnetic, electrical, or some other kind of force can be experienced. For example, imagine that a piece of iron is placed at a distance of 2 in (5 cm) from a bar magnet. If the magnet is strong enough, it may pull on the iron strongly enough to cause it to move. The piece of iron is said to be within the magnetic field of the bar magnet.

Do you see anything there about "energy radiation patterns". No. That is because no energy is being radiated. It is only potential energy stored in a field. Only a nitwit would think a bar magnet which they can hold in their hands and not feel any warmth could be radiating energy. You can take this magnet into a dark room and not see any light emitted from it. Yet this nitwit thinks that an analogue of "magnetic energy" powers the sun and causes it to emit huge quantities of heat and light. Not only that but, like a perpetual motion machine, this energy pouring out into the farthest reaches of the solar system is returned back to the sun somehow. The nitwit cannot explain how though.

Apparently the energy can warm your face and blind your eyes but magically never leave its source. All that energy stored in oil and coal originally came from the Sun and was converted into chemical energy via photosynthesis as carbon bonds. But no, it never actually left the source. When we convert the energy of sunlight into electricity via solar panels, that energy is still in the Sun at the same time as it is powering a house. Energy does not leave its source, yet it can do work here on Earth. This is the brain-dead notion we have to deal with. It's just comical.

Watch this video: https://youtu.be...

This is real, not simulated. Does the Sun look anything like a magnet to you? Or does it look like heat and light are radiating into space from the surface of a very hot body? Lol.

If you ever mature one day you might understand the cycles in the universe.

Maturing does not necessarily equate to sanity, evidenced by your posts which clearly show maturity leads to senility.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
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7/12/2015 4:47:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 8:00:01 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/12/2015 3:56:11 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/12/2015 1:14:02 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/11/2015 3:51:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Maybe you should educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org...
http://science.jrank.org...

It is you who needs the education. Did you actually read what you cited? The first link just talks about how the components of electro-magnetic energy are related. Nothing there helps your cause. From your second link:

A study of magnets allows the introduction of a new concept in energy, the concept of a field. An energy field is a region in space in which a magnetic, electrical, or some other kind of force can be experienced. For example, imagine that a piece of iron is placed at a distance of 2 in (5 cm) from a bar magnet. If the magnet is strong enough, it may pull on the iron strongly enough to cause it to move. The piece of iron is said to be within the magnetic field of the bar magnet.

Do you see anything there about "energy radiation patterns". No. That is because no energy is being radiated. It is only potential energy stored in a field. Only a nitwit would think a bar magnet which they can hold in their hands and not feel any warmth could be radiating energy. You can take this magnet into a dark room and not see any light emitted from it. Yet this nitwit thinks that an analogue of "magnetic energy" powers the sun and causes it to emit huge quantities of heat and light. Not only that but, like a perpetual motion machine, this energy pouring out into the farthest reaches of the solar system is returned back to the sun somehow. The nitwit cannot explain how though.

Apparently the energy can warm your face and blind your eyes but magically never leave its source. All that energy stored in oil and coal originally came from the Sun and was converted into chemical energy via photosynthesis as carbon bonds. But no, it never actually left the source. When we convert the energy of sunlight into electricity via solar panels, that energy is still in the Sun at the same time as it is powering a house. Energy does not leave its source, yet it can do work here on Earth. This is the brain-dead notion we have to deal with. It's just comical.

Watch this video: https://youtu.be...

This is real, not simulated. Does the Sun look anything like a magnet to you? Or does it look like heat and light are radiating into space from the surface of a very hot body? Lol.

If you ever mature one day you might understand the cycles in the universe.

It has nothing to do with maturity, neither yours nor mine. It is about acknowledging known facts about how the universe works. Once again when confronted with incontrovertible facts, you have been argued into a standstill where you can only resort with one-liner ad homs. You are a foolish, foolish woman.

The universe works in repetitive cycles.
Everything is energy and energy never leaves its source. Energy is the source of energy. It all works together as one form of energy interacts with another form of energy in an infinite recycling process of universal energy.

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7/12/2015 5:00:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 8:16:18 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/12/2015 3:48:21 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/12/2015 1:17:34 AM, UndeniableReality wrote:
At 7/10/2015 5:05:51 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Energy never moves away from its source so there is no need to for it to be returned. It is always all around its source like the force/ energy of a magnet is always around the magnet and never leaves it.
http://877ef18e694c1f4ed2be-1a106c77022019a8f0a281e3e5787c14.r12.cf3.rackcdn.com...

Energy is a cycle which apparently cannot be created or destroyed but simply recycles itself even if scientists have no clue how it does it.
They can apparently convert mass into energy with Einsteins equation but they cannot convert energy into mass.

http://www.circlon-theory.com...
"The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies. The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other."

The above article is interesting and fascinating. Take time to read it on the link.

I'm curious how you explain the phenomenon known as "shadows" given your alternative model of electromagnetic radiation as a static field.

When you place an object into an area of light, the object obviously creates shadows in the area furthest away from the light source.

You obviously didn't understand the objection. There are no shadows in a magnetic field just as there are no shadows in a gravitational field. You can put a piece of cardboard in between a magnet and a nail and the magnet will still attract it. Fields of force are not affected by material objects placed within them.

Electro-magnetic radiation cannot be a static field because it travels (as you have already conceded from the 'c' in E = mc^2) and it does so in straight lines (as evidenced by shadows). You haven't got a leg to stand on.

Some forms of energy obviously create shadows and others do not.
All of these things you are talking about are merely different forms and aspects of energy.
The energy in the universe is the source of energy. It is constantly recycling itself. That would not happen if energy left the source which was energy itself. If it did, energy would be depleted or destroyed and according to the law of conservation of energy that does not happen.
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7/12/2015 5:07:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/12/2015 2:00:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/12/2015 3:56:11 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 7/12/2015 1:14:02 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 7/11/2015 3:51:10 PM, Skyangel wrote:

Maybe you should educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org...
http://science.jrank.org...

It is you who needs the education. Did you actually read what you cited? The first link just talks about how the components of electro-magnetic energy are related. Nothing there helps your cause. From your second link:

A study of magnets allows the introduction of a new concept in energy, the concept of a field. An energy field is a region in space in which a magnetic, electrical, or some other kind of force can be experienced. For example, imagine that a piece of iron is placed at a distance of 2 in (5 cm) from a bar magnet. If the magnet is strong enough, it may pull on the iron strongly enough to cause it to move. The piece of iron is said to be within the magnetic field of the bar magnet.

Do you see anything there about "energy radiation patterns". No. That is because no energy is being radiated. It is only potential energy stored in a field. Only a nitwit would think a bar magnet which they can hold in their hands and not feel any warmth could be radiating energy. You can take this magnet into a dark room and not see any light emitted from it. Yet this nitwit thinks that an analogue of "magnetic energy" powers the sun and causes it to emit huge quantities of heat and light. Not only that but, like a perpetual motion machine, this energy pouring out into the farthest reaches of the solar system is returned back to the sun somehow. The nitwit cannot explain how though.

Apparently the energy can warm your face and blind your eyes but magically never leave its source. All that energy stored in oil and coal originally came from the Sun and was converted into chemical energy via photosynthesis as carbon bonds. But no, it never actually left the source. When we convert the energy of sunlight into electricity via solar panels, that energy is still in the Sun at the same time as it is powering a house. Energy does not leave its source, yet it can do work here on Earth. This is the brain-dead notion we have to deal with. It's just comical.

Watch this video: https://youtu.be...

This is real, not simulated. Does the Sun look anything like a magnet to you? Or does it look like heat and light are radiating into space from the surface of a very hot body? Lol.

If you ever mature one day you might understand the cycles in the universe.

Maturing does not necessarily equate to sanity, evidenced by your posts which clearly show maturity leads to senility.

A comment like that from a person who complains about irrelevant ad homs in the science forum, does not set a very good example for others to follow.