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7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM
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Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...
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7/19/2015 12:18:28 AM
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My thoughts are that its nice to have 'anecdotal' observations about dogs confirmed! The links in the article are worth following too.

Of course we can't know what a dog is thinking - we can only observe its external behaviour and theorise - but it is natural to suppose that it has a lot to do with the fact that dogs and humans are both social animals and need the same or similar repertiore of mental tricks.

My guess would be that cats would show completely different reactions under controlled conditions because they are not nearly as social as dogs or people. But I don't think cats would be very co-operative subjects, would they?
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7/19/2015 12:28:27 AM
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"New Research Says Your Dog Can Help You Identify A$$holes"
http://higherperspectives.com...

Disagree, I hate dogs but they always love me. Whenever a girl is walking her dog I have to give this "That's hand-that-feeds-you look". Heck, even my own dog doesn't come to me becos I am an 8-hole. He just sort of jaunts beside me keeping step while I am trying to think in my garden. But he knows to stay at 2 feet distance parallelly otherwise i will kick him.
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7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.
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7/19/2015 9:13:39 PM
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At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

To an extent they can, yes.

It is thought that the smartest of the canines posses roughly the equivalent IQ and emotional capabilities of an average two-year-old child.
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7/19/2015 9:34:56 PM
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At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thank you for the link, Winston.

I think it's credible that animals adapted to hunt (especially pack hunters) can read (and react to) emotional reactions in their own species, and in species they spend time hunting or otherwise interacting with.

However I don't imagine that they cue for it as we do. We spend a lot of attention reading faces and vocalisations. But scent and body-movements can be telling too, and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that dogs in particular are better at reading both than we are.
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7/19/2015 9:35:57 PM
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At 7/19/2015 9:34:56 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thank you for the link, Winston.

My name isn't really Winston. That's an inside joke...My name is Brian.
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7/19/2015 9:43:01 PM
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At 7/19/2015 9:35:57 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:34:56 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thank you for the link, Winston.

My name isn't really Winston. That's an inside joke...My name is Brian.

Thanks, Brian. I guessed your surname wasn't The Tiger too. :)

Oh, by the way dogs are said to have about 100 facial expressions -- most involving ears. Those expressions surely communicate to other dogs (and of course to human carers). [http://www.dailymail.co.uk...] Whether they can read human faces, I'm not sure.

But there's fair evidence that dogs can experience and express, not only empathy but sympathy too. [https://www.psychologytoday.com...]
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7/19/2015 9:44:07 PM
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At 7/19/2015 9:43:01 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:35:57 PM, bsh1 wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:34:56 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thank you for the link, Winston.

My name isn't really Winston. That's an inside joke...My name is Brian.

Thanks, Brian. I guessed your surname wasn't The Tiger too. :)

Lol...Good guess :)

Oh, by the way dogs are said to have about 100 facial expressions -- most involving ears. Those expressions surely communicate to other dogs (and of course to human carers). [http://www.dailymail.co.uk...] Whether they can read human faces, I'm not sure.

Definitely. I think a lot of us suspected that of dogs, and it's interesting to see the studies confirm it.

But there's fair evidence that dogs can experience and express, not only empathy but sympathy too. [https://www.psychologytoday.com...]

Also agreed.
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7/20/2015 7:11:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...;

I think any dog owner already knew about this, but it is nice to have people developing an experiment to actually demonstrate it!
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7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM
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At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.
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7/20/2015 11:56:46 AM
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At 7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.

Thank you

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7/20/2015 12:31:36 PM
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At 7/19/2015 12:28:27 AM, fazz wrote:
"New Research Says Your Dog Can Help You Identify A$$holes"
http://higherperspectives.com...

Disagree, I hate dogs but they always love me. Whenever a girl is walking her dog I have to give this "That's hand-that-feeds-you look". Heck, even my own dog doesn't come to me becos I am an 8-hole. He just sort of jaunts beside me keeping step while I am trying to think in my garden. But he knows to stay at 2 feet distance parallelly otherwise i will kick him.

Why... do you have a dog if you hate them? :\
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7/20/2015 12:36:12 PM
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At 7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.

Love my cats. <3<3<3

I don't think they are like people. People can be *so* unpleasant. I mean, sure, cats can be unpleasant, too, but I think, less for emotional reasons.

I think it more has to do with the fact that they are unapologetically mischievous. My perspective is that humans have a hard time dealing with "pets," which they most often perceive as chattel, that don't worship them.

Many pet owners, though, aren't so narcissistic to need to be worshiped, and can deal with animals that aren't so concerned with pleasing them with their every action. I love my cats for who they are. One of them irritates me more than the other, but I still love her. Ultimately, she's who she is -- just like people.

I mean, my wife irritates the hell out of me, too. Doesn't mean I love her any less.
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7/20/2015 1:43:55 PM
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At 7/20/2015 12:31:36 PM, Such wrote:
At 7/19/2015 12:28:27 AM, fazz wrote:
"New Research Says Your Dog Can Help You Identify A$$holes"
http://higherperspectives.com...

Disagree, I hate dogs but they always love me. Whenever a girl is walking her dog I have to give this "That's hand-that-feeds-you look". Heck, even my own dog doesn't come to me becos I am an 8-hole. He just sort of jaunts beside me keeping step while I am trying to think in my garden. But he knows to stay at 2 feet distance parallelly otherwise i will kick him.

Why... do you have a dog if you hate them? :\

I don't hate dogs just people & body odor.
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7/20/2015 3:30:14 PM
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At 7/20/2015 12:36:12 PM, Such wrote:
At 7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.

Love my cats. <3<3<3

I don't think they are like people. People can be *so* unpleasant. I mean, sure, cats can be unpleasant, too, but I think, less for emotional reasons.

I think it more has to do with the fact that they are unapologetically mischievous. My perspective is that humans have a hard time dealing with "pets," which they most often perceive as chattel, that don't worship them.

Many pet owners, though, aren't so narcissistic to need to be worshiped, and can deal with animals that aren't so concerned with pleasing them with their every action. I love my cats for who they are. One of them irritates me more than the other, but I still love her. Ultimately, she's who she is -- just like people.

I mean, my wife irritates the hell out of me, too. Doesn't mean I love her any less.

Yeah I love my cat too, and I remember very clearly how she slowly learned to love me. She had this adolescent stage where she apparently loved and played with everybody, then switched to adulthood where she apparently hated everyone, but I kept treating her like a little sister no matter how surly she behaved. When she was about 5 years old, a behavioral change was obvious for the whole family and for me, it was clear the cat began to consider me a friend, as she preferred to sleep in my room, tolerated my touch and not those of others, and I was the only one capable of cutting her nails without losing my hands lol... in August my cat will be 15 years old, and I can say that she is literally in love with me, more than any dog I have ever had.

Gasp, cats should live longer! it costs too much to build a relationship with them only for them to die at age of 15, so unfair :)
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7/20/2015 11:42:47 PM
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At 7/20/2015 3:30:14 PM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/20/2015 12:36:12 PM, Such wrote:
At 7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.

Love my cats. <3<3<3

I don't think they are like people. People can be *so* unpleasant. I mean, sure, cats can be unpleasant, too, but I think, less for emotional reasons.

I think it more has to do with the fact that they are unapologetically mischievous. My perspective is that humans have a hard time dealing with "pets," which they most often perceive as chattel, that don't worship them.

Many pet owners, though, aren't so narcissistic to need to be worshiped, and can deal with animals that aren't so concerned with pleasing them with their every action. I love my cats for who they are. One of them irritates me more than the other, but I still love her. Ultimately, she's who she is -- just like people.

I mean, my wife irritates the hell out of me, too. Doesn't mean I love her any less.

Yeah I love my cat too, and I remember very clearly how she slowly learned to love me. She had this adolescent stage where she apparently loved and played with everybody, then switched to adulthood where she apparently hated everyone, but I kept treating her like a little sister no matter how surly she behaved. When she was about 5 years old, a behavioral change was obvious for the whole family and for me, it was clear the cat began to consider me a friend, as she preferred to sleep in my room, tolerated my touch and not those of others, and I was the only one capable of cutting her nails without losing my hands lol... in August my cat will be 15 years old, and I can say that she is literally in love with me, more than any dog I have ever had.

Do you also put nail polish on your cat?


Gasp, cats should live longer! it costs too much to build a relationship with them only for them to die at age of 15, so unfair :)
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7/21/2015 11:18:05 AM
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At 7/20/2015 11:42:47 PM, fazz wrote:
At 7/20/2015 3:30:14 PM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/20/2015 12:36:12 PM, Such wrote:
At 7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.

Love my cats. <3<3<3

I don't think they are like people. People can be *so* unpleasant. I mean, sure, cats can be unpleasant, too, but I think, less for emotional reasons.

I think it more has to do with the fact that they are unapologetically mischievous. My perspective is that humans have a hard time dealing with "pets," which they most often perceive as chattel, that don't worship them.

Many pet owners, though, aren't so narcissistic to need to be worshiped, and can deal with animals that aren't so concerned with pleasing them with their every action. I love my cats for who they are. One of them irritates me more than the other, but I still love her. Ultimately, she's who she is -- just like people.

I mean, my wife irritates the hell out of me, too. Doesn't mean I love her any less.

Yeah I love my cat too, and I remember very clearly how she slowly learned to love me. She had this adolescent stage where she apparently loved and played with everybody, then switched to adulthood where she apparently hated everyone, but I kept treating her like a little sister no matter how surly she behaved. When she was about 5 years old, a behavioral change was obvious for the whole family and for me, it was clear the cat began to consider me a friend, as she preferred to sleep in my room, tolerated my touch and not those of others, and I was the only one capable of cutting her nails without losing my hands lol... in August my cat will be 15 years old, and I can say that she is literally in love with me, more than any dog I have ever had.

Do you also put nail polish on your cat?

I don't. But I'm under the impression that the question tries to fribble the affection some people feel towards animals, which imo will only get you to embarrass yourself.
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7/21/2015 9:33:52 PM
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At 7/21/2015 11:18:05 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/20/2015 11:42:47 PM, fazz wrote:
At 7/20/2015 3:30:14 PM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/20/2015 12:36:12 PM, Such wrote:
At 7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.

Love my cats. <3<3<3

I don't think they are like people. People can be *so* unpleasant. I mean, sure, cats can be unpleasant, too, but I think, less for emotional reasons.

I think it more has to do with the fact that they are unapologetically mischievous. My perspective is that humans have a hard time dealing with "pets," which they most often perceive as chattel, that don't worship them.

Many pet owners, though, aren't so narcissistic to need to be worshiped, and can deal with animals that aren't so concerned with pleasing them with their every action. I love my cats for who they are. One of them irritates me more than the other, but I still love her. Ultimately, she's who she is -- just like people.

I mean, my wife irritates the hell out of me, too. Doesn't mean I love her any less.

Yeah I love my cat too, and I remember very clearly how she slowly learned to love me. She had this adolescent stage where she apparently loved and played with everybody, then switched to adulthood where she apparently hated everyone, but I kept treating her like a little sister no matter how surly she behaved. When she was about 5 years old, a behavioral change was obvious for the whole family and for me, it was clear the cat began to consider me a friend, as she preferred to sleep in my room, tolerated my touch and not those of others, and I was the only one capable of cutting her nails without losing my hands lol... in August my cat will be 15 years old, and I can say that she is literally in love with me, more than any dog I have ever had.

Do you also put nail polish on your cat?

I don't. But I'm under the impression that the question tries to fribble the affection some people feel towards animals, which imo will only get you to embarrass yourself.

Are you gonna threaten me?
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7/22/2015 5:49:21 AM
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At 7/21/2015 9:33:52 PM, fazz wrote:
At 7/21/2015 11:18:05 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/20/2015 11:42:47 PM, fazz wrote:
At 7/20/2015 3:30:14 PM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/20/2015 12:36:12 PM, Such wrote:
At 7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.

Love my cats. <3<3<3

I don't think they are like people. People can be *so* unpleasant. I mean, sure, cats can be unpleasant, too, but I think, less for emotional reasons.

I think it more has to do with the fact that they are unapologetically mischievous. My perspective is that humans have a hard time dealing with "pets," which they most often perceive as chattel, that don't worship them.

Many pet owners, though, aren't so narcissistic to need to be worshiped, and can deal with animals that aren't so concerned with pleasing them with their every action. I love my cats for who they are. One of them irritates me more than the other, but I still love her. Ultimately, she's who she is -- just like people.

I mean, my wife irritates the hell out of me, too. Doesn't mean I love her any less.

Yeah I love my cat too, and I remember very clearly how she slowly learned to love me. She had this adolescent stage where she apparently loved and played with everybody, then switched to adulthood where she apparently hated everyone, but I kept treating her like a little sister no matter how surly she behaved. When she was about 5 years old, a behavioral change was obvious for the whole family and for me, it was clear the cat began to consider me a friend, as she preferred to sleep in my room, tolerated my touch and not those of others, and I was the only one capable of cutting her nails without losing my hands lol... in August my cat will be 15 years old, and I can say that she is literally in love with me, more than any dog I have ever had.

Do you also put nail polish on your cat?

I don't. But I'm under the impression that the question tries to fribble the affection some people feel towards animals, which imo will only get you to embarrass yourself.

Are you gonna threaten me?

oh, shut up! :p
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7/22/2015 6:12:32 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/22/2015 5:49:21 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/21/2015 9:33:52 PM, fazz wrote:
At 7/21/2015 11:18:05 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/20/2015 11:42:47 PM, fazz wrote:
At 7/20/2015 3:30:14 PM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/20/2015 12:36:12 PM, Such wrote:
At 7/20/2015 7:18:54 AM, Otokage wrote:
At 7/19/2015 9:52:23 AM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 7/18/2015 11:53:19 PM, bsh1 wrote:
Read the article (it's short) and comment. What are your thoughts?

http://higherperspectives.com...

Thanks for the article. I would say they certainly can.

In another study they had the owner act displeased, even though the dog did nothing wrong. The dogs began to show signs of "guilt". They probably weren't self-hating for what ever was done. They probably didn't even know what was done. They knew their master was upset and they go into appeasement behavior.

I have many animals. They are thinking feeling living creatures. They feel and think differently from us. Like the snakes. That is one cold robotic animal. But I see differences in temperament and activity even between snakes from the same hatch.

I don't like the rats and mice. Past experiences have made me bias against and disgusted by them.

And the cat is well a cat. They only think about you when they want something.

Anyways I think many animals have emotions, and I think communicating with animals is a very natural thing to do.

Cats have such a bad fame... I believe this is because earning a cat's heart is as difficult as earning a person's heart :) most people like pets because they can have a simple relationship with them that is far away from the complicated relation between humans, but cats are actually very human-like in the way they relate to owners, and so the owners are rarely pleased.

Love my cats. <3<3<3

I don't think they are like people. People can be *so* unpleasant. I mean, sure, cats can be unpleasant, too, but I think, less for emotional reasons.

I think it more has to do with the fact that they are unapologetically mischievous. My perspective is that humans have a hard time dealing with "pets," which they most often perceive as chattel, that don't worship them.

Many pet owners, though, aren't so narcissistic to need to be worshiped, and can deal with animals that aren't so concerned with pleasing them with their every action. I love my cats for who they are. One of them irritates me more than the other, but I still love her. Ultimately, she's who she is -- just like people.

I mean, my wife irritates the hell out of me, too. Doesn't mean I love her any less.

Yeah I love my cat too, and I remember very clearly how she slowly learned to love me. She had this adolescent stage where she apparently loved and played with everybody, then switched to adulthood where she apparently hated everyone, but I kept treating her like a little sister no matter how surly she behaved. When she was about 5 years old, a behavioral change was obvious for the whole family and for me, it was clear the cat began to consider me a friend, as she preferred to sleep in my room, tolerated my touch and not those of others, and I was the only one capable of cutting her nails without losing my hands lol... in August my cat will be 15 years old, and I can say that she is literally in love with me, more than any dog I have ever had.

Do you also put nail polish on your cat?

I don't. But I'm under the impression that the question tries to fribble the affection some people feel towards animals, which imo will only get you to embarrass yourself.

Are you gonna threaten me?

oh, shut up! :p

hehe :>
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7/24/2015 8:36:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Can a dog be superstitious?

In my opinion there is not much difference between a dog and a human.

some are smarter then others.
Life is what YOU make it,
Most just try and fake it...