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Evolution and racial differences resources
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8/22/2015 5:35:11 AM Posted: 2 years ago I was wondering what science thinks of the concept of races and especially if different groups of people evolved differently because of genetic drift and other evolutionary pressures on isolated populations. Any quick resources on this issue?
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8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM Posted: 2 years ago Scientifically, there is no such thing as race.
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8/22/2015 2:26:16 PM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/22/2015 5:35:11 AM, Hardtruthmerchant wrote: My favorite books on this topic are The 10,000 Year Explosion and A Troublesome Inheritance. https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com... https://atroublesomeinheritance.files.wordpress.com... |
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8/22/2015 2:33:31 PM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM, dee-em wrote: What does that even mean? |
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8/22/2015 5:16:24 PM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/22/2015 2:33:31 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM, dee-em wrote: The term "race" is an informal rank below subspecies, which is not formally recognized by biology. [https://en.wikipedia.org...] |
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8/22/2015 5:21:09 PM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/22/2015 5:16:24 PM, tejretics wrote:At 8/22/2015 2:33:31 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM, dee-em wrote: That's just arbitrary. |
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8/22/2015 10:45:05 PM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/22/2015 5:21:09 PM, dylancatlow wrote:The thing is that most scientists on this field would agree that there are such things as "ethnic groups" but not races.At 8/22/2015 5:16:24 PM, tejretics wrote:At 8/22/2015 2:33:31 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM, dee-em wrote: "Here the ways of men part: if you wish to strive for peace of soul and pleasure, then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire." F. Nietzsche. "Freedom is always freedom for the one who thinks differently." R. Luxemburg. "The principle of the masochistic left is that, in general, two blacks make a white, half a loaf is the same as no bread." G. Orwell, paraphrase. "Islamophobia is a word created by fascists, used by cowards, to manipulate morons". Andrew Cummins. |
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8/23/2015 3:07:06 AM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/22/2015 5:21:09 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 5:16:24 PM, tejretics wrote:At 8/22/2015 2:33:31 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM, dee-em wrote: Yes, exactly. :-) "Funny, I was going to say the same thing about you". "I am being absurd, but no way is it trolling". [paraphrased] --- dsjpk5 |
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8/23/2015 11:31:29 AM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/22/2015 10:45:05 PM, HououinKyouma wrote: The thing is that most scientists on this field would agree that there are such things as "ethnic groups" but not races. Funny. They believe in ethnic groups but not race. "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness." - Max Planck |
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8/23/2015 7:06:54 PM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/23/2015 3:07:06 AM, dee-em wrote:At 8/22/2015 5:21:09 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 5:16:24 PM, tejretics wrote:At 8/22/2015 2:33:31 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM, dee-em wrote: Just because biology doesn't formally recognize the classification of "race" does not mean that it is a hollow concept. I mean, biology doesn't even recognize the concept of dog breeds. They could if they wanted to. |
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8/24/2015 1:36:35 AM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/23/2015 7:06:54 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/23/2015 3:07:06 AM, dee-em wrote:At 8/22/2015 5:21:09 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 5:16:24 PM, tejretics wrote:At 8/22/2015 2:33:31 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM, dee-em wrote: Yes Dylan, it's just about having the will not about the actual science. Lol. "Funny, I was going to say the same thing about you". "I am being absurd, but no way is it trolling". [paraphrased] --- dsjpk5 |
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8/25/2015 8:34:49 PM Posted: 2 years ago At 8/23/2015 7:06:54 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/23/2015 3:07:06 AM, dee-em wrote:At 8/22/2015 5:21:09 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 5:16:24 PM, tejretics wrote:At 8/22/2015 2:33:31 PM, dylancatlow wrote:At 8/22/2015 7:07:25 AM, dee-em wrote: Yes there are races Dylan, but the concept is more sociological than scientific in the way that ordinary people understand it. This is because the intragroup differences are greater than the intergroup means' differences, and therefore the concept of race loses much biological sense: the term "population" is just as useful, so nobody has the need to duplicate it and even less with the negative connotation that the word "race" has acquired in modern times. |