Total Posts:22|Showing Posts:1-22
Jump to topic:

Keeping Things In Perspective

DavidHenson
Posts: 446
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/11/2015 3:44:08 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Stephen Hawking has an IQ Level of 160. So does Dolph Lundgren and Quentin Tarantino. James Woods, the actor, has an IQ Level of 180.

When asked what it feels like to be the smartest man in the world, Albert Einstein answered: "I don't know, you'll have to ask Nikola Tesla.
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
Burzmali
Posts: 1,310
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/11/2015 12:38:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
The concept of trying to quantify general intelligence is pretty much garbage. And I say this as someone who tested in the 150s in third grade and 167 in high school. It makes much more sense to judge the brilliance of an individual by their ideas and innovations.
DavidHenson
Posts: 446
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/11/2015 2:40:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 12:38:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
The concept of trying to quantify general intelligence is pretty much garbage. And I say this as someone who tested in the 150s in third grade and 167 in high school. It makes much more sense to judge the brilliance of an individual by their ideas and innovations.

I know. It's just another case of science being complete nonsense. That's why I bring it up. Science is complete nonsense. All science. I just wanted to make sure, before we begin, that everyone here knows that. Or has it inculcated into their awareness.

A lot of times people who talk science thing that they are, what do you call it? Smart? When everything they BELIEVE as face now, 20 years from now will be bullsht. Just like everything they believed 20 years ago is bullsht now.

People who believe in science are idiots. The grand creator, Jehovah God didn't bless them with a superior intellect.
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
Ramshutu
Posts: 4,063
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/11/2015 2:58:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 2:40:28 PM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/11/2015 12:38:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
The concept of trying to quantify general intelligence is pretty much garbage. And I say this as someone who tested in the 150s in third grade and 167 in high school. It makes much more sense to judge the brilliance of an individual by their ideas and innovations.

I know. It's just another case of science being complete nonsense. That's why I bring it up. Science is complete nonsense. All science. I just wanted to make sure, before we begin, that everyone here knows that. Or has it inculcated into their awareness.

A lot of times people who talk science thing that they are, what do you call it? Smart? When everything they BELIEVE as face now, 20 years from now will be bullsht. Just like everything they believed 20 years ago is bullsht now.

People who believe in science are idiots. The grand creator, Jehovah God didn't bless them with a superior intellect.

Im assuming this is your last post here, as you are going to give up your cell phone, computer, car, clothing, food, medications, glasses, house and go live in cave somewhere.

Really, our modern world is built on the back of science. If it's such a bad thing, please, feel free to give up all the benefits of the scientific boob you've been suckling on your entire life.
Evidence
Posts: 849
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/11/2015 3:13:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 2:40:28 PM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/11/2015 12:38:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
The concept of trying to quantify general intelligence is pretty much garbage. And I say this as someone who tested in the 150s in third grade and 167 in high school. It makes much more sense to judge the brilliance of an individual by their ideas and innovations.

I know. It's just another case of science being complete nonsense. That's why I bring it up. Science is complete nonsense. All science. I just wanted to make sure, before we begin, that everyone here knows that. Or has it inculcated into their awareness.

A lot of times people who talk science thing that they are, what do you call it? Smart? When everything they BELIEVE as face now, 20 years from now will be bullsht. Just like everything they believed 20 years ago is bullsht now.

People who believe in science are idiots. The grand creator, Jehovah God didn't bless them with a superior intellect. :

OK, so wait? You're saying that "people who believe that the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment" are idiots? Well I would agree if the result of their study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world resulted in the Big-bang Evolution story, because that certainly would be idiotic. But science (which is observing the world around us) is not idiocy, but the result of our observation may be, and could be, yes, .. as I just said.

Here is the Biblical requirement of science:
Mathew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


This is how I found the "Evidence of God", in observing my own mind and the world around me, including my own body made of dust, and I doubt that this information will be 'bullst' in 20 years, or even a 100 years, or ever!?

Thanks and God bless.
There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root. - Henry David Thoreau
Burzmali
Posts: 1,310
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/11/2015 4:24:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 2:40:28 PM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/11/2015 12:38:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
The concept of trying to quantify general intelligence is pretty much garbage. And I say this as someone who tested in the 150s in third grade and 167 in high school. It makes much more sense to judge the brilliance of an individual by their ideas and innovations.

I know. It's just another case of science being complete nonsense. That's why I bring it up. Science is complete nonsense. All science. I just wanted to make sure, before we begin, that everyone here knows that. Or has it inculcated into their awareness.

A lot of times people who talk science thing that they are, what do you call it? Smart? When everything they BELIEVE as face now, 20 years from now will be bullsht. Just like everything they believed 20 years ago is bullsht now.

People who believe in science are idiots. The grand creator, Jehovah God didn't bless them with a superior intellect.

Are you joking? To echo what Ramshuthu said, every modern convenience you enjoy is the product of scientific advancement. You tacitly "believe in science" by sitting at home where flowing electrons are delivered to power the things that preserve and cook your food, keep you comfortable, and make it possible for you to use that marvelous computing machine to communicate with people around the globe in moments. Presumably you've taken some medicine at some point in your life. Science is the reason you can confidently take a drug and know it will help you rather than kill you.

Anyway, I was pointing out IQ as a poor measure of intelligence because quantifying intelligence is an absurd notion with our current understanding of it. IQ tests are still decent at measuring what they measure: critical thinking, spatial awareness, and certain kinds of problem solving. It's a matter of whether that's all we're going to consider as far as what makes a person "intelligent."

As an analogy, it's like determining a typist's proficiency based solely on words per minute. Sure, that's one way to quantify such an ability, but it's pretty worthless on its own. As the Mitch Hedberg joke goes, "I can type 101 words per minute, but it's in my own language."
DanneJeRusse
Posts: 12,633
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/11/2015 6:46:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 3:44:08 AM, DavidHenson wrote:
Stephen Hawking has an IQ Level of 160. So does Dolph Lundgren and Quentin Tarantino. James Woods, the actor, has an IQ Level of 180.

When asked what it feels like to be the smartest man in the world, Albert Einstein answered: "I don't know, you'll have to ask Nikola Tesla.

So, how does this keep things in perspective? Asia Carrera has an IQ of 156 and has starred in over 370 hardcore adult pornography movies.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
Illegalcombatant
Posts: 4,008
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/12/2015 12:01:37 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 2:40:28 PM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/11/2015 12:38:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
The concept of trying to quantify general intelligence is pretty much garbage. And I say this as someone who tested in the 150s in third grade and 167 in high school. It makes much more sense to judge the brilliance of an individual by their ideas and innovations.

I know. It's just another case of science being complete nonsense. That's why I bring it up. Science is complete nonsense. All science. I just wanted to make sure, before we begin, that everyone here knows that. Or has it inculcated into their awareness.

A lot of times people who talk science thing that they are, what do you call it? Smart? When everything they BELIEVE as face now, 20 years from now will be bullsht. Just like everything they believed 20 years ago is bullsht now.

People who believe in science are idiots. The grand creator, Jehovah God didn't bless them with a superior intellect.

"Science is complete nonsense. All science."

I bet this is some one who among other things uses..........

electricity
computers
being on a plane (clearly an unnatural act, if God wanted man to fly he would of given us wings)
Immunization

Lets talk non sense shall we ? some claim is made, the claim is attributed to "God". From that point on that claim must be accepted as true, no matter what.

Well the bible says.........ergo it must be true.

Tell me more about the things that are non sense................
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
DavidHenson
Posts: 446
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/12/2015 10:45:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 2:58:42 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
Im assuming this is your last post here, as you are going to give up your cell phone, computer, car, clothing, food, medications, glasses, house and go live in cave somewhere.

Really, our modern world is built on the back of science. If it's such a bad thing, please, feel free to give up all the benefits of the scientific boob you've been suckling on your entire life.

Ah, here we go - the Utopian Atheist Goddess has been maligned. The bringer of all that is good in this world.
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
DavidHenson
Posts: 446
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/12/2015 10:52:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 12:01:37 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
I bet this is some one who among other things uses..........

electricity
computers
being on a plane (clearly an unnatural act, if God wanted man to fly he would of given us wings)
Immunization

Lets talk non sense shall we ? some claim is made, the claim is attributed to "God". From that point on that claim must be accepted as true, no matter what.

Well the bible says.........ergo it must be true.

Tell me more about the things that are non sense................

Hows come youse guys never mention chemical, biological, or thermonuclear war in your little lists of the things science has brought about?
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
DavidHenson
Posts: 446
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/12/2015 11:00:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 3:13:45 PM, Evidence wrote:
OK, so wait? You're saying that "people who believe that the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment" are idiots?

That's correct.

Well I would agree if the result of their study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world resulted in the Big-bang Evolution story, because that certainly would be idiotic.

Indeed.

But science (which is observing the world around us) is not idiocy, but the result of our observation may be, and could be, yes, .. as I just said.

Nonsense. Sold to the highest bidder. What is the viscosity of ketchup this month? Are eggs good for us or bad for us this year? Waiting for the highest bidder. Sorry, can't patent natural medicine, just copy and poison at exorbitant prices.

Here is the Biblical requirement of science:
Mathew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


This is how I found the "Evidence of God", in observing my own mind and the world around me, including my own body made of dust, and I doubt that this information will be 'bullst' in 20 years, or even a 100 years, or ever!?

Thanks and God bless.

You make no sense.
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
DanneJeRusse
Posts: 12,633
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/12/2015 2:28:33 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 10:52:04 AM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/12/2015 12:01:37 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
I bet this is some one who among other things uses..........

electricity
computers
being on a plane (clearly an unnatural act, if God wanted man to fly he would of given us wings)
Immunization

Lets talk non sense shall we ? some claim is made, the claim is attributed to "God". From that point on that claim must be accepted as true, no matter what.

Well the bible says.........ergo it must be true.

Tell me more about the things that are non sense................

Hows come youse guys never mention chemical, biological, or thermonuclear war in your little lists of the things science has brought about?

Because, those are things that politicians abuse from the work of scientists. Who dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Scientists?

If you think it's all nonsense, then you are a hypocrite and in order to stop being a hypocrite, you need to get rid of your computer, disconnect your internet and go live in a cave where nothing scientific shall ever affect you.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
DanneJeRusse
Posts: 12,633
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/12/2015 2:34:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 2:40:28 PM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/11/2015 12:38:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
The concept of trying to quantify general intelligence is pretty much garbage. And I say this as someone who tested in the 150s in third grade and 167 in high school. It makes much more sense to judge the brilliance of an individual by their ideas and innovations.

I know. It's just another case of science being complete nonsense. That's why I bring it up. Science is complete nonsense. All science. I just wanted to make sure, before we begin, that everyone here knows that. Or has it inculcated into their awareness.

A lot of times people who talk science thing that they are, what do you call it? Smart? When everything they BELIEVE as face now, 20 years from now will be bullsht. Just like everything they believed 20 years ago is bullsht now.

People who believe in science are idiots. The grand creator, Jehovah God didn't bless them with a superior intellect.

Wow, you create a thread called 'Keeping Things In Perspective' yet have absolutely no perspective whatsoever, a blatant hypocrite. Yes, every single day of your life will you use that which idiots have brought you through years of hard work, diligence and rigor, and you sit there, an armchair quarterback, tossing out crap about Jehovah.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
Sidewalker
Posts: 3,713
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/13/2015 12:56:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Why is everybody feeding the troll?
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
bills_friend
Posts: 64
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/14/2015 4:43:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 2:40:28 PM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/11/2015 12:38:30 PM, Burzmali wrote:
The concept of trying to quantify general intelligence is pretty much garbage. And I say this as someone who tested in the 150s in third grade and 167 in high school. It makes much more sense to judge the brilliance of an individual by their ideas and innovations.

I know. It's just another case of science being complete nonsense. That's why I bring it up. Science is complete nonsense. All science. I just wanted to make sure, before we begin, that everyone here knows that. Or has it inculcated into their awareness.

A lot of times people who talk science thing that they are, what do you call it? Smart? When everything they BELIEVE as face now, 20 years from now will be bullsht. Just like everything they believed 20 years ago is bullsht now.

People who believe in science are idiots. The grand creator, Jehovah God didn't bless them with a superior intellect. : :

So you believe that God created Christians as the superior intellects who believe their Jesus is going to come floating in the clouds?

I will challenge any Christian who believes science wasn't created by God for his purpose to teach us how he created everything.
DavidHenson
Posts: 446
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/16/2015 3:02:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/14/2015 4:43:48 AM, bills_friend wrote:
So you believe that God created Christians as the superior intellects who believe their Jesus is going to come floating in the clouds?

Most certainly not. If that were the case he has failed miserably at it.

I will challenge any Christian who believes science wasn't created by God for his purpose to teach us how he created everything.

Again. If that were the case he would have failed miserably at it.

They are both examples or products of the imperfection of man.
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
Ramshutu
Posts: 4,063
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/16/2015 3:58:02 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 10:45:41 AM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/11/2015 2:58:42 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
Im assuming this is your last post here, as you are going to give up your cell phone, computer, car, clothing, food, medications, glasses, house and go live in cave somewhere.

Really, our modern world is built on the back of science. If it's such a bad thing, please, feel free to give up all the benefits of the scientific boob you've been suckling on your entire life.

Ah, here we go - the Utopian Atheist Goddess has been maligned. The bringer of all that is good in this world.

This has nothing to do with Atheism really; Science is THE thing that has most change the world for the better. The chances are you would not be alive because of some part of it, and certainly would not be able to sit here and write how terrible science is without science.

It is not about atheism, it is about your own personal dishonesty. I'm pretty sure the Bible says something about bearing false witness; and so I am pretty sure you need to think about what you're writing.
tidalwave
Posts: 40
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/17/2015 4:53:55 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/16/2015 3:02:12 AM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/14/2015 4:43:48 AM, bills_friend wrote:
So you believe that God created Christians as the superior intellects who believe their Jesus is going to come floating in the clouds?

Most certainly not. If that were the case he has failed miserably at it.

I will challenge any Christian who believes science wasn't created by God for his purpose to teach us how he created everything.

Again. If that were the case he would have failed miserably at it.

If you had listened to the voice of our Creator, you would have learned how He created everything. He needed His scientists to help me understand the deep knowledge that is required to know how He spoke everything into existence.

They are both examples or products of the imperfection of man. : :

You have no idea how God created man, do you?
DavidHenson
Posts: 446
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/17/2015 6:56:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/17/2015 4:53:55 PM, tidalwave wrote:
At 9/16/2015 3:02:12 AM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/14/2015 4:43:48 AM, bills_friend wrote:
So you believe that God created Christians as the superior intellects who believe their Jesus is going to come floating in the clouds?

Most certainly not. If that were the case he has failed miserably at it.

I will challenge any Christian who believes science wasn't created by God for his purpose to teach us how he created everything.

Again. If that were the case he would have failed miserably at it.

If you had listened to the voice of our Creator, you would have learned how He created everything. He needed His scientists to help me understand the deep knowledge that is required to know how He spoke everything into existence.

They are both examples or products of the imperfection of man. : :

You have no idea how God created man, do you?

You are an idiot
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
tidalwave
Posts: 40
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/17/2015 11:44:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/17/2015 6:56:54 PM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/17/2015 4:53:55 PM, tidalwave wrote:
At 9/16/2015 3:02:12 AM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/14/2015 4:43:48 AM, bills_friend wrote:
So you believe that God created Christians as the superior intellects who believe their Jesus is going to come floating in the clouds?

Most certainly not. If that were the case he has failed miserably at it.

I will challenge any Christian who believes science wasn't created by God for his purpose to teach us how he created everything.

Again. If that were the case he would have failed miserably at it.

If you had listened to the voice of our Creator, you would have learned how He created everything. He needed His scientists to help me understand the deep knowledge that is required to know how He spoke everything into existence.

They are both examples or products of the imperfection of man. : :

You have no idea how God created man, do you?

You are an idiot : :

I knew you didn't know how God created you and everything else. If you listen to His voice, then you will learn everything that was revealed to me this past 7 years.
fromantle
Posts: 274
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/24/2015 2:56:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/11/2015 3:44:08 AM, DavidHenson wrote:
Stephen Hawking has an IQ Level of 160. So does Dolph Lundgren and Quentin Tarantino. James Woods, the actor, has an IQ Level of 180.

When asked what it feels like to be the smartest man in the world, Albert Einstein answered: "I don't know, you'll have to ask Nikola Tesla.

How does the world look in perspective? A thriving happy family perhaps! A wonderland of technical achievement with a rosy future! A struggle at all levels for a larger share of the cake along the lines of survival of the fittest?A monumental achievement of harmonius living where all creatures are cared about. Perhaps the reason is we have failed to listen to the super intelligent eh? Maybe the intelligence of the tip - top persons has been abused and misused.
Evidence
Posts: 849
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
9/26/2015 6:01:34 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/12/2015 11:00:47 AM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 9/11/2015 3:13:45 PM, Evidence wrote:
OK, so wait? You're saying that "people who believe that the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment" are idiots?

That's correct.

Well I would agree if the result of their study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world resulted in the Big-bang Evolution story, because that certainly would be idiotic.

Indeed.

But science (which is observing the world around us) is not idiocy, but the result of our observation may be, and could be, yes, .. as I just said. :

Nonsense. Sold to the highest bidder. What is the viscosity of ketchup this month? Are eggs good for us or bad for us this year? Waiting for the highest bidder. Sorry, can't patent natural medicine, just copy and poison at exorbitant prices.


I was referring to the result of observing the universe around us, and coming up with the Big-bang story to explain how it appeared.

Here is the Biblical requirement of science:
Mathew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


This is how I found the "Evidence of God", in observing my own mind and the world around me, including my own body made of dust, and I doubt that this information will be 'bullst' in 20 years, or even a 100 years, or ever!?

Thanks and God bless.

You make no sense. :

Well that depends on the individual whether or not they are using only their brain and what reasoning it spasms out results of evolution to interpret it by, .. or their God given human mind that is IN Gods image!?
There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root. - Henry David Thoreau