There is no such thing as an immune system.

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false. There is no immune system organ in the human body. The immune system is supposed to a combination of bone marrow, thyroid, spleen and lymphatic system. The human body may eliminate foreign substances from the body but there is no memory of previous invaders. The concept of remembering previous enemies is utter nonsense. This theory was derived from the fact that people who drink alcohol on a regular basis don't get drunk as easily. This happens because the body adapts to the constant abuse of alcohol which the body can process more efficiently over time. This does not apply to the invasion of foreign bodies though. The human body is not digesting these foreign bodies so there can be no prior chemical preparation. Thus, having an immune system that remembers previous enemies would be an inefficient waste of the body's limited resources.

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false. There is no immune system organ in the human body. The immune system is supposed to a combination of bone marrow, thyroid, spleen and lymphatic system. The human body may eliminate foreign substances from the body but there is no memory of previous invaders. The concept of remembering previous enemies is utter nonsense. This theory was derived from the fact that people who drink alcohol on a regular basis don't get drunk as easily. This happens because the body adapts to the constant abuse of alcohol which the body can process more efficiently over time. This does not apply to the invasion of foreign bodies though. The human body is not digesting these foreign bodies so there can be no prior chemical preparation. Thus, having an immune system that remembers previous enemies would be an inefficient waste of the body's limited resources.

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false. There is no immune system organ in the human body. The immune system is supposed to a combination of bone marrow, thyroid, spleen and lymphatic system. The human body may eliminate foreign substances from the body but there is no memory of previous invaders. The concept of remembering previous enemies is utter nonsense. This theory was derived from the fact that people who drink alcohol on a regular basis don't get drunk as easily. This happens because the body adapts to the constant abuse of alcohol which the body can process more efficiently over time. This does not apply to the invasion of foreign bodies though. The human body is not digesting these foreign bodies so there can be no prior chemical preparation. Thus, having an immune system that remembers previous enemies would be an inefficient waste of the body's limited resources.

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false. There is no immune system organ in the human body. The immune system is supposed to a combination of bone marrow, thyroid, spleen and lymphatic system.

At 2/6/2016 4:01:07 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:

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Oddly, this claim contradicts your previous claim that there does exist an iodine-based immune system.

At 2/6/2016 7:47:43 AM, PeacefulChaos wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false. There is no immune system organ in the human body. The immune system is supposed to a combination of bone marrow, thyroid, spleen and lymphatic system.

Hence why it's called the immune system and not the immune organ.

You aren't disproving anything.

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false. There is no immune system organ in the human body. The immune system is supposed to a combination of bone marrow, thyroid, spleen and lymphatic system. The human body may eliminate foreign substances from the body but there is no memory of previous invaders. The concept of remembering previous enemies is utter nonsense. This theory was derived from the fact that people who drink alcohol on a regular basis don't get drunk as easily. This happens because the body adapts to the constant abuse of alcohol which the body can process more efficiently over time. This does not apply to the invasion of foreign bodies though. The human body is not digesting these foreign bodies so there can be no prior chemical preparation. Thus, having an immune system that remembers previous enemies would be an inefficient waste of the body's limited resources.

At 2/18/2016 4:59:42 PM, dhardage wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:

Unadulterated nonsense. I believe you're just a troll out looking to aggravate people with this ridiculous diatribe. As for animals not getting sick as you mention in your last post, go talk to any veterinarian and he or she will quickly disabuse you of that fallacious notion. I lived on a farm and I've seen sick horses, cattle, and swine. So you are either willfully ignorant, truly stupid, or just a troll. I'll be curious to see which it is.

At 2/18/2016 3:56:39 PM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/6/2016 7:47:43 AM, PeacefulChaos wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false. There is no immune system organ in the human body. The immune system is supposed to a combination of bone marrow, thyroid, spleen and lymphatic system.

Hence why it's called the immune system and not the immune organ.

You aren't disproving anything.

Reply - Well, I definitely know there are no diseases in nature. Only humans get sick. This is because of their unnatural diet. Viruses don't exist. Nobody has ever seen a virus. All the pictures in the text books are fakes. I know because I used to work in an electron microscope unit.

At 2/18/2016 3:56:39 PM, Akhenaten wrote:

Reply - Well, I definitely know there are no diseases in nature. Only humans get sick. This is because of their unnatural diet. Viruses don't exist. Nobody has ever seen a virus. All the pictures in the text books are fakes. I know because I used to work in an electron microscope unit.

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false.

At 2/18/2016 11:27:52 PM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/18/2016 4:59:42 PM, dhardage wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:

Unadulterated nonsense. I believe you're just a troll out looking to aggravate people with this ridiculous diatribe. As for animals not getting sick as you mention in your last post, go talk to any veterinarian and he or she will quickly disabuse you of that fallacious notion. I lived on a farm and I've seen sick horses, cattle, and swine. So you are either willfully ignorant, truly stupid, or just a troll. I'll be curious to see which it is.

A farm is not nature. Farm animals are mostly fed human type foods which explains why they get sick. Grain food is fed to cattle, pigs, sheep, cats and dogs. this causes the animals to get sick. Grain food is only suitable for birds. Any other animal that eats grain will get sick. Disease has nothing to do with it. By nature, I mean pristine and unadulterated nature where no dangerous chemicals have been distributed and where no fences have restricted animal movements.

Your views are completely unfalsifiable because any evidence against your beliefs can be explained away as "Big Pharma propaganda". As such, I believe that this would not create constructive conversation.

At 2/19/2016 2:44:59 PM, dhardage wrote:

That's not what you said originally, but let's go with that. Perhaps you'll be so good as to look up Chronic Wasting Disease and note that it is in wild populations of elk, white-tail, and other related species. That's just one example of sickness in nature so you're once again whistling in the wind.

At 2/19/2016 1:02:26 AM, RuvDraba wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false.

So the video linked right is:
1) a fake?
2) a white blood cell in random motion?
3) an unfortunate accident between Staphylococcus, a Leucocyte, and a piece of discarded sidewalk chewing-gum?

At 2/20/2016 1:00:53 AM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/19/2016 1:02:26 AM, RuvDraba wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false.

So the video linked right is:
1) a fake?
2) a white blood cell in random motion?
3) an unfortunate accident between Staphylococcus, a Leucocyte, and a piece of discarded sidewalk chewing-gum?

I don't get the point that you are trying to make. I don't know the source of your video. This video has nothing to do with viruses. You can do better that that Canberra Public Servant! lol

At 2/20/2016 3:23:15 AM, TBR wrote:

At 2/20/2016 1:00:53 AM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/19/2016 1:02:26 AM, RuvDraba wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false.

So the video linked right is:
1) a fake?
2) a white blood cell in random motion?

Well, the source is easy enough. David Rogers, Vanderbilt University
In this 16mm movie from the VanderBilt University we see a Neutrophil or White blood cell actively chasing and eventually eating Staphylococcus aureus Bacteria. The movie originates from the 1950s and is credited to David Rogers. (from 16mm movie by David Rogers.

Staphylococcus aureus is a member of the Firmicutes. Commonly found on the skin an in the human respiratory tract. S. aureus is often associated with respiratory disease, skin infections and food poisoning. Most strains are however non pathogenic. Disease-associated strains often promote infections by producing certain proteintoxins, and expressing surface proteins that bind and inactivate antibodies of our immune system.

The pathogenic strains of Staphylococcus aureus are in the news mainly referred to as Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus or MRSA.

http://lumibyte.eu...

At 2/20/2016 4:14:20 PM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/20/2016 3:23:15 AM, TBR wrote:

At 2/20/2016 1:00:53 AM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/19/2016 1:02:26 AM, RuvDraba wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false.

So the video linked right is:
1) a fake?
2) a white blood cell in random motion?

Well, the source is easy enough. David Rogers, Vanderbilt University
In this 16mm movie from the VanderBilt University we see a Neutrophil or White blood cell actively chasing and eventually eating Staphylococcus aureus Bacteria. The movie originates from the 1950s and is credited to David Rogers. (from 16mm movie by David Rogers.

Staphylococcus aureus is a member of the Firmicutes. Commonly found on the skin an in the human respiratory tract. S. aureus is often associated with respiratory disease, skin infections and food poisoning. Most strains are however non pathogenic. Disease-associated strains often promote infections by producing certain proteintoxins, and expressing surface proteins that bind and inactivate antibodies of our immune system.

The pathogenic strains of Staphylococcus aureus are in the news mainly referred to as Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus or MRSA.

http://lumibyte.eu...

How did the bacteria get into the blood?

At 2/6/2016 7:47:43 AM, PeacefulChaos wrote:

At 1/31/2016 7:13:44 AM, Akhenaten wrote:
The concept of an immune system is false. There is no immune system organ in the human body. The immune system is supposed to a combination of bone marrow, thyroid, spleen and lymphatic system.

Hence why it's called the immune system and not the immune organ.

You aren't disproving anything.

At 2/20/2016 12:53:15 AM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/19/2016 2:44:59 PM, dhardage wrote:

That's not what you said originally, but let's go with that. Perhaps you'll be so good as to look up Chronic Wasting Disease and note that it is in wild populations of elk, white-tail, and other related species. That's just one example of sickness in nature so you're once again whistling in the wind.

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE). This is caused by exposure to pesticides and other halogen based chemicals.

At 2/20/2016 4:20:58 PM, TBR wrote:

How did the bacteria get into the blood?

I can explain, but first answer if this satisfies your curiosity about the existence of an immune system?

At 2/20/2016 4:37:55 PM, CodingSource wrote:
Challenge me please. I feel that I can beat you.

At 2/20/2016 11:33:47 PM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/20/2016 4:20:58 PM, TBR wrote:

How did the bacteria get into the blood?

I can explain, but first answer if this satisfies your curiosity about the existence of an immune system?

They are no conditions. How did the bacteria get into the blood? Just answer the question and don't try to use any stalling or diversionary tactics. Note - If you don't know how the bacteria got into the blood, then your argument is pointless and futile.

At 2/20/2016 4:42:25 PM, dhardage wrote:

It's related to BSE but BSE has no known link to chemical exposure.
BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy) is a progressive neurological disorder of cattle; its symptoms are similar to a disease of sheep, called scrapie. BSE has been called "mad cow disease." BSE and scrapie both result from infection with a very unusual infectious agent. As of January 2004, more than 180,000 cases of BSE were confirmed in Great Britain in more than 35,000 herds of cattle. The epidemic peaked in January 1993 at almost 1,000 new cases per week. Although the origin of the disease is uncertain it may have resulted from the feeding of scrapie containing meat and bone meal (MBM) to cattle or from feeding cattle MBM derived from a cow or other animal that developed the disease due to a spontaneous mutation. There is strong evidence and general agreement that the outbreak was amplified by feeding meat-and-bone meal prepared from cattle to young calves.

http://www.fda.gov...

Please stop pushing this foolish agenda.

At 2/20/2016 11:40:00 PM, TBR wrote:

How did the bacteria get into the blood?

I can explain, but first answer if this satisfies your curiosity about the existence of an immune system?

They are no conditions. How did the bacteria get into the blood? Just answer the question and don't try to use any stalling or diversionary tactics. Note - If you don't know how the bacteria got into the blood, then your argument is pointless and futile.

You want to demand things, but not respond to any questions yourslef? "Conditions"? Please...

Yea, answer my question - I demand it! Otherwise your argument is pointless and futile.

At 2/20/2016 11:49:09 PM, Akhenaten wrote:

At 2/20/2016 11:40:00 PM, TBR wrote:

How did the bacteria get into the blood?

I can explain, but first answer if this satisfies your curiosity about the existence of an immune system?

They are no conditions. How did the bacteria get into the blood? Just answer the question and don't try to use any stalling or diversionary tactics. Note - If you don't know how the bacteria got into the blood, then your argument is pointless and futile.

You want to demand things, but not respond to any questions yourslef? "Conditions"? Please...

Yea, answer my question - I demand it! Otherwise your argument is pointless and futile.

Reply - I can see that i have outsmarted and trapped you into a corner. In your desperation to escape my clever trap, you have created a diversionary tactic. I can see that you will never answer my question and that you will have to remain in your little dark space existence. Good luck! lol

At 2/20/2016 11:53:58 PM, TBR wrote:

How? How do you make this sort of nonsense when you start with a post "there is no such thing as an immune system". You read the numerous posts saying otherwise, and now insist on the next step before even responding to a direct question yourself?

You are not a serious person. You can learn how any part of the immune system works on your own, or just remain a complete fool if you like.

Read this, or don't, I have no care.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...

At 2/20/2016 4:37:05 PM, CodingSource wrote:

A group of organs that work together is called a system.