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Possible causes of the Big Bang?

Axonly
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2/15/2016 5:30:28 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
(Big Bang supporters only, please, no religious answers also, thanks)

What are some possible reasons for the Big Bang occuring?

I have always thought of the Big Bang as something that occurred because before the universe there were no natural laws to prevent it from happening, but I would like to see what other explanations there could be.
Meh!
Mhykiel
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2/16/2016 3:36:21 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/15/2016 5:30:28 AM, Axonly wrote:
(Big Bang supporters only, please, no religious answers also, thanks)

What are some possible reasons for the Big Bang occuring?

I have always thought of the Big Bang as something that occurred because before the universe there were no natural laws to prevent it from happening, but I would like to see what other explanations there could be.

There would have to be some constraints on the creation of the universe. Not every universe possibly created can undergo expansion or produce basic elements like hydrogen.

The universe has properties that are finite.

If your looking for a non God answer than you are left with a multiverse or a simulation. (but simulation by extra dimensional hackers looks like God.)

Either a Russian doll nested multiverse or an infinite expansive of multiverse popping in and out of existence in a sea of branes.
Peternosaint
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2/20/2016 10:35:02 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/15/2016 5:30:28 AM, Axonly wrote:
(Big Bang supporters only, please, no religious answers also, thanks)

What are some possible reasons for the Big Bang occuring?

I have always thought of the Big Bang as something that occurred because before the universe there were no natural laws to prevent it from happening, but I would like to see what other explanations there could be.

According to current evolutionist comments, with the discovery of the gravity wave, a big bang caused the big bang.
janesix
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2/20/2016 10:56:52 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/15/2016 5:30:28 AM, Axonly wrote:
(Big Bang supporters only, please, no religious answers also, thanks)

What are some possible reasons for the Big Bang occuring?

I have always thought of the Big Bang as something that occurred because before the universe there were no natural laws to prevent it from happening, but I would like to see what other explanations there could be.
There was no big bang. What you see is the universe erupting from the singularity at the center of the torus.
tejretics
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2/21/2016 7:20:31 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
Answers often posited are string theory, the collision of branes, extra dimensions, and evolving quantum fields - all via ekpyrotic universe.[https://en.wikipedia.org...] Another possibility is the Hartle-Hawking state, which posits no absolute beginning to the universe due to the incoherence of a "beginning" sans time. [http://www.hawking.org.uk...] Quentin Smith posits a means via simultaneous causation. [http://infidels.org...] Multiple philosophers also suggest a conscious cause. [http://www.reasonablefaith.org...]
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ssadi
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2/21/2016 10:44:06 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/15/2016 5:30:28 AM, Axonly wrote:
(Big Bang supporters only, please, no religious answers also, thanks)

What are some possible reasons for the Big Bang occuring?

I have always thought of the Big Bang as something that occurred because before the universe there were no natural laws to prevent it from happening, but I would like to see what other explanations there could be.

No natural laws to prevent it? You mean it was something that was already happening but there was no law to prevent it? That doesn't solve the question why it was happening!
Or were they created without anything being before them (or out of something different than the basic material of all creation, so that they know things others do not), or are they the creators (of themselves, so that they can maintain themselves and are free in their acts)? Or did they create the heavens and the earth (so that their sovereignty belongs to them)? No indeed. Rather, they have no certain knowledge (about creation, humankind, and the basic facts concerning them).

Quran, 52:35-36
Dirty.Harry
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2/25/2016 1:53:12 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 7:20:31 AM, tejretics wrote:
Answers often posited are string theory, the collision of branes, extra dimensions, and evolving quantum fields - all via ekpyrotic universe.[https://en.wikipedia.org...] Another possibility is the Hartle-Hawking state, which posits no absolute beginning to the universe due to the incoherence of a "beginning" sans time. [http://www.hawking.org.uk...] Quentin Smith posits a means via simultaneous causation. [http://infidels.org...] Multiple philosophers also suggest a conscious cause. [http://www.reasonablefaith.org...]

None of these answer the question, all they are is restatements of the same thing but in different ways.

If I say radio waves travel at the speed of light and can be modulated in amplitude to carry the human voice that's one explanation of radio.

But so is - electromagnetic field oscillations can travel very far and fast and will induce micro-amp currents in a conductor (antenna) which can be filtered by frequency using an LC tuned circuit and then rectified and amplified by a high input impedance field effect transistor etc etc.

None of these exotic models (Penrose in fact refuses to call string theory a theory) are anything other than alternative means of expressing the same thing.

This is what people seem to misunderstand about physics - it does explain things but it always does so in terms of OTHER things, which in turn raise there own questions and warrant their own explanations.

Harry.
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2/25/2016 1:56:01 PM
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At 2/25/2016 1:53:12 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:

Here are the explanations I used: external cause (e.g. God), Smith's simultaneous causality, tenseless boundary-less universe, and ekpyrotic universe. #2 is summed up in the study I linked. #3 is the idea that the universe wasn't caused as it didn't have an absolute beginning. #4 is a combination of multiple ideas, e.g. string theory. I never expressed agreement/disagreement with any of these four.
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2/28/2016 2:51:40 PM
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The big bang started with a undisturbed force and then it made a star/light and then it exploded and started making celestial bodies in the universe.