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2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.
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2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.
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2/20/2016 5:36:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

Not at high noon.
The moment you declare a set of ideas to be immune from criticism, satire, derision, or contempt, freedom of thought becomes impossible. - Salman Rushdie

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell
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2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.
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2/20/2016 8:43:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

It doesn't need to be reflected to be seen
"Hate begets hate"
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2/21/2016 2:23:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

So the Sun is invisible in space?
Fatihah: It's like your mother making spaghetti and after you taste it and don't like it, you say "well my mom must not exist". Not because their is no logical evidence but because she doesn't do what you want.
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2/21/2016 3:00:50 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

TREssspa, did you understand this when you posted it?
"Hate begets hate"
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2/21/2016 5:19:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 2:23:00 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

So the Sun is invisible in space?

Sun is invisible in space.
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2/21/2016 5:20:50 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 3:00:50 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

TREssspa, did you understand this when you posted it?

Yes Axonly.
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2/21/2016 5:29:40 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.

Earth's atmosphere produces the vision of sun and stars.
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2/21/2016 7:20:12 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 5:19:38 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 2:23:00 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

So the Sun is invisible in space?

Sun is invisible in space.

Another unimaginative troll. You guys are not even amusing any more.
Fatihah: It's like your mother making spaghetti and after you taste it and don't like it, you say "well my mom must not exist". Not because their is no logical evidence but because she doesn't do what you want.
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2/21/2016 8:11:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 7:20:12 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:19:38 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 2:23:00 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

So the Sun is invisible in space?

Sun is invisible in space.

Another unimaginative troll. You guys are not even amusing any more.

https://m.youtube.com...
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2/21/2016 11:51:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Light travels as a spin wave through the aether. Note - Aether is inter-dimensional. Thus, light doesn't travel through our fractal/time dimension.
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2/21/2016 3:31:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 5:29:40 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.

Earth's atmosphere produces the vision of sun and stars.

No, the sun and stars exist and produce photons (through stellar fusion) outside of Earth's atmosphere. There's no way the atmosphere can produce images of stars.
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2/21/2016 4:18:36 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 5:19:38 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 2:23:00 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

So the Sun is invisible in space?

Sun is invisible in space.

This video shows the stars and the sun can be seen in space. Anything else you'd like to lie about? How many lies will you tell before you uphold your promises?

https://www.youtube.com...
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
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2/21/2016 5:28:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 4:18:36 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:19:38 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 2:23:00 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

So the Sun is invisible in space?

Sun is invisible in space.

This video shows the stars and the sun can be seen in space. Anything else you'd like to lie about? How many lies will you tell before you uphold your promises?

https://www.youtube.com...

https://m.youtube.com...
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2/21/2016 5:31:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 3:31:15 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:29:40 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.

Earth's atmosphere produces the vision of sun and stars.

No, the sun and stars exist and produce photons (through stellar fusion) outside of Earth's atmosphere. There's no way the atmosphere can produce images of stars.

Nope. You're wrong here.

https://m.youtube.com...
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2/21/2016 6:27:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 5:31:25 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 3:31:15 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:29:40 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.

Earth's atmosphere produces the vision of sun and stars.

No, the sun and stars exist and produce photons (through stellar fusion) outside of Earth's atmosphere. There's no way the atmosphere can produce images of stars.

Nope. You're wrong here.

https://m.youtube.com...

Are you blind? I provided direct evidence from the ISS that clearly shows the stars and the sun. Why do you lie so much?
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
There would be peace if you obeyed us.~Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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2/21/2016 6:46:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 6:27:46 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:31:25 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 3:31:15 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:29:40 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.

Earth's atmosphere produces the vision of sun and stars.

No, the sun and stars exist and produce photons (through stellar fusion) outside of Earth's atmosphere. There's no way the atmosphere can produce images of stars.

Nope. You're wrong here.

https://m.youtube.com...

Are you blind? I provided direct evidence from the ISS that clearly shows the stars and the sun. Why do you lie so much?

I have to admit - The new crop of... Well call them users have opened my eyes to silly I didn't know existed.
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2/21/2016 6:53:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Did you know there are people that sell jewelry devices they say will produce a 7.86Hz pulse? Like don't anyone question how the he11 that is possible?
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2/21/2016 7:00:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 5:31:25 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 3:31:15 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:29:40 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.

Earth's atmosphere produces the vision of sun and stars.

No, the sun and stars exist and produce photons (through stellar fusion) outside of Earth's atmosphere. There's no way the atmosphere can produce images of stars.

Nope. You're wrong here.

https://m.youtube.com...

That video's full of erroneous information spouted from a conspiracy theorist. My comment above is basic science. The sun and stars obviously exist (otherwise, the Earth would have a temperature close to absolute zero) and the "surface" of the sun has a temperature that corresponds to the color we see the sun as having (this is just basic radiation theory). And the atmosphere has no mechanism with which it can create essentially pointlike lights in the sky.
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2/22/2016 12:24:37 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

According to the ecological theory of perception, we can see light directly - for example, the sun - but there's no information in it that we can use. We get information about the environment from the ambient optical array, or the changes in the ambient light, and the flow of light as we move, and those fluctuations are created by reflected light. That's why reflected light from the moon and objects around us seems clearer than light from the sun.
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2/22/2016 4:55:13 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 7:00:15 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:31:25 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 3:31:15 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:29:40 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.

Earth's atmosphere produces the vision of sun and stars.

No, the sun and stars exist and produce photons (through stellar fusion) outside of Earth's atmosphere. There's no way the atmosphere can produce images of stars.

Nope. You're wrong here.

https://m.youtube.com...

That video's full of erroneous information spouted from a conspiracy theorist. My comment above is basic science. The sun and stars obviously exist (otherwise, the Earth would have a temperature close to absolute zero) and the "surface" of the sun has a temperature that corresponds to the color we see the sun as having (this is just basic radiation theory). And the atmosphere has no mechanism with which it can create essentially pointlike lights in the sky.

Sun exists. Stars exist. The vision of sun and stars is produced by the atmosphere.
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2/22/2016 4:58:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/21/2016 6:46:43 PM, TBR wrote:
At 2/21/2016 6:27:46 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:31:25 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/21/2016 3:31:15 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/21/2016 5:29:40 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:40:25 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

That's refraction, not reflection.

Earth's atmosphere produces the vision of sun and stars.

No, the sun and stars exist and produce photons (through stellar fusion) outside of Earth's atmosphere. There's no way the atmosphere can produce images of stars.

Nope. You're wrong here.

https://m.youtube.com...

Are you blind? I provided direct evidence from the ISS that clearly shows the stars and the sun. Why do you lie so much?

I have to admit - The new crop of... Well call them users have opened my eyes to silly I didn't know existed.

The truth is insane not just silly. It's totally up to you to leave your fairy world comfort zone.
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2/22/2016 9:53:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

First of all, what do you mean by reflection?

Take any light source (like a lamp, LED, fire etc.) and look directly at it.. Do you see it? Then you are seeing the light coming directly from that light source without any reflection..
Or were they created without anything being before them (or out of something different than the basic material of all creation, so that they know things others do not), or are they the creators (of themselves, so that they can maintain themselves and are free in their acts)? Or did they create the heavens and the earth (so that their sovereignty belongs to them)? No indeed. Rather, they have no certain knowledge (about creation, humankind, and the basic facts concerning them).

Quran, 52:35-36
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2/22/2016 10:05:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

And furthermore, what is the difference between reflected and un-reflected lights that we can see one and not the other?
Or were they created without anything being before them (or out of something different than the basic material of all creation, so that they know things others do not), or are they the creators (of themselves, so that they can maintain themselves and are free in their acts)? Or did they create the heavens and the earth (so that their sovereignty belongs to them)? No indeed. Rather, they have no certain knowledge (about creation, humankind, and the basic facts concerning them).

Quran, 52:35-36
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2/22/2016 1:40:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/20/2016 2:37:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:50:03 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 2/19/2016 6:15:03 PM, TREssspa wrote:
If It Is Not Reflected.

If you look directly at a light source (like the Sun), nothing is reflecting the light into your eyes.

Earth's atmosphere.

After reading the title, and then your first post, you didn't go the direction I thought you'd go. You know the sun isn't just a big ball of light. It's gaseous, just like the Earth's atmosphere. You'd be able to see it in space.
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2/22/2016 1:41:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I kind of agree that you can't see light depending on how you define it. I don't totally agree with your reasoning though.