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3/15/2016 5:30:46 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Even though the discovery was announced by two respected astronomers, I would be very, very skeptical of their claim. According to the article, they inferred the planet from "the peculiar clustering of six previously known objects that orbit beyond Neptune. They say there"s only a 0.007% chance, or about one in 15,000, that the clustering could be a coincidence." This seems like a very tenuous basis on which to base such a large claim.
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3/15/2016 5:34:36 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 5:30:46 AM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Even though the discovery was announced by two respected astronomers, I would be very, very skeptical of their claim. According to the article, they inferred the planet from "the peculiar clustering of six previously known objects that orbit beyond Neptune. They say there"s only a 0.007% chance, or about one in 15,000, that the clustering could be a coincidence." This seems like a very tenuous basis on which to base such a large claim.

The way you worded it, their is a 0.007% chance they are wrong
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3/15/2016 3:42:35 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

PLUTO IS THE NINTH PLANET. http://cosmoquest.org...
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3/15/2016 6:26:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 3:42:35 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

PLUTO IS THE NINTH PLANET. http://cosmoquest.org...

I wonder if some of the younger DDO members don't know/remember that Pluto used to be the ninth planet. That makes us old D:
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3/15/2016 6:49:58 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 5:34:36 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:30:46 AM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Even though the discovery was announced by two respected astronomers, I would be very, very skeptical of their claim. According to the article, they inferred the planet from "the peculiar clustering of six previously known objects that orbit beyond Neptune. They say there"s only a 0.007% chance, or about one in 15,000, that the clustering could be a coincidence." This seems like a very tenuous basis on which to base such a large claim.

The way you worded it, their is a 0.007% chance they are wrong

Not exactly. The chance of the six objects clustering together may be 0.007%, but that is a far cry from saying the only possible explanation for their behavior is a yet-unseen Neptune-sized planet. Surely there are other plausible explanations. Also, there is the Prosecutor's fallacy to consider. If you look at enough objects, you will find six they behave in a statistically unlikely way.

The history of astronomy is filled with claims of discoveries that turned out not be true, many made by respected astronomers of their day. The "canals" on Mars are a good example. Such claims were sensationalized in the media for years before better telescopes finally showed that the canals are not there. So a healthy dose of skepticism should meet any new discovery.
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3/15/2016 8:03:59 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

I will use my awesome naming skills to come up with a name for it - famousdebater land.
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3/16/2016 12:41:52 AM
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At 3/15/2016 8:03:59 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

I will use my awesome naming skills to come up with a name for it - famousdebater land.

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3/18/2016 1:45:00 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 2:46:03 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/15/2016 11:12:13 AM, dee-em wrote:
It's time Minerva had something named after her.

That actually sounds really cool

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3/18/2016 1:48:22 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 6:49:58 PM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:34:36 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:30:46 AM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Even though the discovery was announced by two respected astronomers, I would be very, very skeptical of their claim. According to the article, they inferred the planet from "the peculiar clustering of six previously known objects that orbit beyond Neptune. They say there"s only a 0.007% chance, or about one in 15,000, that the clustering could be a coincidence." This seems like a very tenuous basis on which to base such a large claim.

The way you worded it, their is a 0.007% chance they are wrong

Not exactly. The chance of the six objects clustering together may be 0.007%, but that is a far cry from saying the only possible explanation for their behavior is a yet-unseen Neptune-sized planet. Surely there are other plausible explanations. Also, there is the Prosecutor's fallacy to consider. If you look at enough objects, you will find six they behave in a statistically unlikely way.

The history of astronomy is filled with claims of discoveries that turned out not be true, many made by respected astronomers of their day. The "canals" on Mars are a good example. Such claims were sensationalized in the media for years before better telescopes finally showed that the canals are not there. So a healthy dose of skepticism should meet any new discovery.

Thanks for the buzzkill, dude.
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3/18/2016 1:53:36 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/18/2016 1:48:22 AM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/15/2016 6:49:58 PM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:34:36 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:30:46 AM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Even though the discovery was announced by two respected astronomers, I would be very, very skeptical of their claim. According to the article, they inferred the planet from "the peculiar clustering of six previously known objects that orbit beyond Neptune. They say there"s only a 0.007% chance, or about one in 15,000, that the clustering could be a coincidence." This seems like a very tenuous basis on which to base such a large claim.

The way you worded it, their is a 0.007% chance they are wrong

Not exactly. The chance of the six objects clustering together may be 0.007%, but that is a far cry from saying the only possible explanation for their behavior is a yet-unseen Neptune-sized planet. Surely there are other plausible explanations. Also, there is the Prosecutor's fallacy to consider. If you look at enough objects, you will find six they behave in a statistically unlikely way.

The history of astronomy is filled with claims of discoveries that turned out not be true, many made by respected astronomers of their day. The "canals" on Mars are a good example. Such claims were sensationalized in the media for years before better telescopes finally showed that the canals are not there. So a healthy dose of skepticism should meet any new discovery.

Thanks for the buzzkill, dude.

exactly what I thought
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3/19/2016 5:58:39 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/18/2016 1:53:36 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/18/2016 1:48:22 AM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/15/2016 6:49:58 PM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:34:36 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:30:46 AM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Even though the discovery was announced by two respected astronomers, I would be very, very skeptical of their claim. According to the article, they inferred the planet from "the peculiar clustering of six previously known objects that orbit beyond Neptune. They say there"s only a 0.007% chance, or about one in 15,000, that the clustering could be a coincidence." This seems like a very tenuous basis on which to base such a large claim.

The way you worded it, their is a 0.007% chance they are wrong

Not exactly. The chance of the six objects clustering together may be 0.007%, but that is a far cry from saying the only possible explanation for their behavior is a yet-unseen Neptune-sized planet. Surely there are other plausible explanations. Also, there is the Prosecutor's fallacy to consider. If you look at enough objects, you will find six they behave in a statistically unlikely way.

The history of astronomy is filled with claims of discoveries that turned out not be true, many made by respected astronomers of their day. The "canals" on Mars are a good example. Such claims were sensationalized in the media for years before better telescopes finally showed that the canals are not there. So a healthy dose of skepticism should meet any new discovery.

Thanks for the buzzkill, dude.

exactly what I thought

I do my best. Reality often has a buzzkilling effect on hypotheses.

Come to think of it, Buzzkill would be an awesome name for the planet.
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3/19/2016 6:24:07 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Nibiru is the name already given to it, and has been since the 1970's. The fact that two astronomers were brave enough to push through the academia brick wall to get this out is what really surprised me. There's ALOT of hogwash surrounding it though, so tread lightly when traversing the mountains of absurd information and theories on it.
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3/19/2016 6:32:36 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 6:24:07 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Nibiru is the name already given to it, and has been since the 1970's. The fact that two astronomers were brave enough to push through the academia brick wall to get this out is what really surprised me. There's ALOT of hogwash surrounding it though, so tread lightly when traversing the mountains of absurd information and theories on it.

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3/19/2016 6:57:07 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 6:32:36 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/19/2016 6:24:07 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Nibiru is the name already given to it, and has been since the 1970's. The fact that two astronomers were brave enough to push through the academia brick wall to get this out is what really surprised me. There's ALOT of hogwash surrounding it though, so tread lightly when traversing the mountains of absurd information and theories on it.

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3/19/2016 7:42:43 AM
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At 3/15/2016 6:26:42 PM, Diqiucun_Cunmin wrote:
At 3/15/2016 3:42:35 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

PLUTO IS THE NINTH PLANET. http://cosmoquest.org...

I wonder if some of the younger DDO members don't know/remember that Pluto used to be the ninth planet. That makes us old D:

I totally remember, lol.
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3/19/2016 8:41:54 AM
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At 3/19/2016 6:24:07 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Nibiru is the name already given to it, and has been since the 1970's. The fact that two astronomers were brave enough to push through the academia brick wall to get this out is what really surprised me. There's ALOT of hogwash surrounding it though, so tread lightly when traversing the mountains of absurd information and theories on it.

If the planet turns out to exist, I would be surprised if a name given by a pseudoscientist like Zecharia Sitchin sticks. He based its existence on mistranslation of ancient Sumerian texts, and among other things, claimed that Nibiru had a technologically advanced civilization who visited Earth to mine gold 450,000 years ago, cross-bred with native Earth animals to create humans to work the mines, and that a worker uprising caused a nuclear war in 2000 BC.
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3/19/2016 5:00:07 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 8:41:54 AM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/19/2016 6:24:07 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Nibiru is the name already given to it, and has been since the 1970's. The fact that two astronomers were brave enough to push through the academia brick wall to get this out is what really surprised me. There's ALOT of hogwash surrounding it though, so tread lightly when traversing the mountains of absurd information and theories on it.

If the planet turns out to exist, I would be surprised if a name given by a pseudoscientist like Zecharia Sitchin sticks. He based its existence on mistranslation of ancient Sumerian texts, and among other things, claimed that Nibiru had a technologically advanced civilization who visited Earth to mine gold 450,000 years ago, cross-bred with native Earth animals to create humans to work the mines, and that a worker uprising caused a nuclear war in 2000 BC.

Well, someone has done their homework :) but yeah, I hope that name sticks. I doubt it will considering we have a Greek god fetish when it comes to planetary names.
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3/20/2016 1:31:07 AM
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At 3/19/2016 5:00:07 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/19/2016 8:41:54 AM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/19/2016 6:24:07 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Nibiru is the name already given to it, and has been since the 1970's. The fact that two astronomers were brave enough to push through the academia brick wall to get this out is what really surprised me. There's ALOT of hogwash surrounding it though, so tread lightly when traversing the mountains of absurd information and theories on it.

If the planet turns out to exist, I would be surprised if a name given by a pseudoscientist like Zecharia Sitchin sticks. He based its existence on mistranslation of ancient Sumerian texts, and among other things, claimed that Nibiru had a technologically advanced civilization who visited Earth to mine gold 450,000 years ago, cross-bred with native Earth animals to create humans to work the mines, and that a worker uprising caused a nuclear war in 2000 BC.

Well, someone has done their homework :) but yeah, I hope that name sticks. I doubt it will considering we have a Greek god fetish when it comes to planetary names.

As a Greek I would love to claim credit, but the names actually derive from Roman gods (which usually had a one to one correspondence with the original Greek gods, of course).
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3/20/2016 2:16:46 AM
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At 3/20/2016 1:31:07 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/19/2016 5:00:07 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/19/2016 8:41:54 AM, Stronn wrote:
At 3/19/2016 6:24:07 AM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Nibiru is the name already given to it, and has been since the 1970's. The fact that two astronomers were brave enough to push through the academia brick wall to get this out is what really surprised me. There's ALOT of hogwash surrounding it though, so tread lightly when traversing the mountains of absurd information and theories on it.

If the planet turns out to exist, I would be surprised if a name given by a pseudoscientist like Zecharia Sitchin sticks. He based its existence on mistranslation of ancient Sumerian texts, and among other things, claimed that Nibiru had a technologically advanced civilization who visited Earth to mine gold 450,000 years ago, cross-bred with native Earth animals to create humans to work the mines, and that a worker uprising caused a nuclear war in 2000 BC.

Well, someone has done their homework :) but yeah, I hope that name sticks. I doubt it will considering we have a Greek god fetish when it comes to planetary names.

As a Greek I would love to claim credit, but the names actually derive from Roman gods (which usually had a one to one correspondence with the original Greek gods, of course).

Interesting, and good to know! Thanks for sharing that.
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3/20/2016 2:25:54 AM
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At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Jo Momma
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3/20/2016 2:26:14 AM
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At 3/20/2016 2:25:54 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Jo Momma

lol
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3/20/2016 2:27:39 AM
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At 3/20/2016 2:26:14 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 3/20/2016 2:25:54 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Jo Momma

lol

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3/20/2016 3:45:13 AM
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At 3/20/2016 2:25:54 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Jo Momma

Sorry, the god for naming planets rejects your submission of a two word name. It can be "Jo" or "Momma" but not both.
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3/20/2016 7:28:27 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/20/2016 3:45:13 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/20/2016 2:25:54 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Jo Momma

Sorry, the god for naming planets rejects your submission of a two word name. It can be "Jo" or "Momma" but not both.
JoMomma can be one word then
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3/21/2016 1:00:27 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/20/2016 7:28:27 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 3/20/2016 3:45:13 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/20/2016 2:25:54 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Jo Momma

Sorry, the god for naming planets rejects your submission of a two word name. It can be "Jo" or "Momma" but not both.

JoMomma can be one word then

Good to go. :-)
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3/21/2016 1:06:53 AM
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At 3/21/2016 1:00:27 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/20/2016 7:28:27 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 3/20/2016 3:45:13 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/20/2016 2:25:54 AM, Emmarie wrote:
At 3/15/2016 5:16:22 AM, Hayd wrote:
A new planet was discovered about the size of Neptune that orbits the sun every 15,000 years. What should we name it?
http://www.sciencemag.org...

Jo Momma

Sorry, the god for naming planets rejects your submission of a two word name. It can be "Jo" or "Momma" but not both.

JoMomma can be one word then

Good to go. :-)

................................................ ;) .....................................................