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Free access to scientific papers by 2020?

Skepticalone
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5/30/2016 4:57:04 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com...
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5/30/2016 4:57:56 PM
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At 5/30/2016 4:57:04 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
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All publicly funded scientific papers published in Europe could be made free to access by 2020, under a "life-changing" reform ordered by the European Union"s science chief, Carlos Moedas.

The Competitiveness Council, a gathering of ministers of science, innovation, trade and industry, agreed on the target following a two-day meeting in Brussels last week.

The move means publications of the results of research supported by public and public-private funds would be freely available to and reusable by anyone. It could affect the paid-for subscription model used by many scientific journals, and undermine the common practice of releasing reports under embargo.

At present the results of some publicly funded research are not accessible to people outside universities and similar institutions without one-off payments, which means that many teachers, doctors, entrepreneurs and others do not have access to the latest scientific insights. In the UK, funding bodies generally require that researchers publish under open access terms, with open access publishing fees paid from the researcher"s grant.
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5/30/2016 5:37:52 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Hayd actually posted that in politics yesterday, so I'll just C/P my post from there:

Open access only harms the big publishing companies that earn bigger margins than Apple.

Open access is the future... look at what happened to Lingua :)

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6/4/2016 3:32:36 PM
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This would be great. Fortunately for me, I am part of an institution, so I do get free access to most of these, but other people are locked behind a paywall, unable to access all the fresh and exciting science.
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6/6/2016 8:03:40 AM
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At 5/30/2016 4:57:04 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
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It would be excellent if they were, but it seems unlikely.
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6/6/2016 12:34:38 PM
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At 6/4/2016 3:32:36 PM, Biodome wrote:
This would be great. Fortunately for me, I am part of an institution, so I do get free access to most of these, but other people are locked behind a paywall, unable to access all the fresh and exciting science.

I'm envious!
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6/6/2016 12:38:44 PM
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At 6/6/2016 8:03:40 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 5/30/2016 4:57:04 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com...

It would be excellent if they were, but it seems unlikely.

Why do you think it seems unlikely?
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6/6/2016 12:43:52 PM
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At 6/6/2016 12:38:44 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/6/2016 8:03:40 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 5/30/2016 4:57:04 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com...

It would be excellent if they were, but it seems unlikely.

Why do you think it seems unlikely?

Well, it such a big change is such a short time, I was thinking that in a few decades perhaps. Regardless, I'm not expert on scientific literature policies.
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6/6/2016 2:55:41 PM
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At 6/6/2016 12:43:52 PM, Axonly wrote:
At 6/6/2016 12:38:44 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/6/2016 8:03:40 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 5/30/2016 4:57:04 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com...

It would be excellent if they were, but it seems unlikely.

Why do you think it seems unlikely?

Well, it such a big change is such a short time, I was thinking that in a few decades perhaps. Regardless, I'm not expert on scientific literature policies.

I agree it would be huge change, but the benefits of open access seems like a no-brainer. I'm not sure what the downside would be (for society as a whole).
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6/13/2016 10:11:38 AM
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At 5/30/2016 4:57:04 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com...

Since this is relevant: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk...

A Russian neuroscientist (It's always Russians xD) is just letting people download scientific articles/journals for free.

I don't know how to feel about this.
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6/13/2016 1:37:15 PM
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At 6/13/2016 10:11:38 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 5/30/2016 4:57:04 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com...

Since this is relevant: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk...

A Russian neuroscientist (It's always Russians xD) is just letting people download scientific articles/journals for free.

I don't know how to feel about this.

Obviously, I agree with her desired outcome (free access), but I don't agree with her method. Her actions take what has not been freely given.
The moment you declare a set of ideas to be immune from criticism, satire, derision, or contempt, freedom of thought becomes impossible. - Salman Rushdie

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell