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What is consciousness?

FREEDO
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12/17/2010 3:29:59 AM
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I have asked this before but it still baffles me and strikes my interest. What is consciousness? What does it mean to be conscious? What is it's source? Where is it?How does it start? How does it end? How do you know? Can science explain it? Can the nature of comprehension even be understood by itself?--is it beyond our understanding?
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Ren
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12/17/2010 11:11:04 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/17/2010 3:29:59 AM, FREEDO wrote:
I have asked this before but it still baffles me and strikes my interest. What is consciousness? What does it mean to be conscious? What is it's source? Where is it?How does it start? How does it end? How do you know? Can science explain it? Can the nature of comprehension even be understood by itself?--is it beyond our understanding?

I think it's pretty clear that it's what renders us distinct, self-aware individuals.

Persona, personality, emotions, intellect, experience, compulsions, ethics, and inheritance.
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12/17/2010 12:40:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/17/2010 3:29:59 AM, FREEDO wrote:
I have asked this before but it still baffles me and strikes my interest. What is consciousness? What does it mean to be conscious? What is it's source? Where is it?How does it start? How does it end? How do you know? Can science explain it? Can the nature of comprehension even be understood by itself?--is it beyond our understanding?

The short of it is that nobody knows. I think the most that neurologists can say about it is that certain state of mind correlate to certain neuronal activities.
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FREEDO
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12/17/2010 3:02:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/17/2010 11:11:04 AM, Ren wrote:
At 12/17/2010 3:29:59 AM, FREEDO wrote:
I have asked this before but it still baffles me and strikes my interest. What is consciousness? What does it mean to be conscious? What is it's source? Where is it?How does it start? How does it end? How do you know? Can science explain it? Can the nature of comprehension even be understood by itself?--is it beyond our understanding?

I think it's pretty clear that it's what renders us distinct, self-aware individuals.

Persona, personality, emotions, intellect, experience, compulsions, ethics, and inheritance.

What is it, though? How can it be?
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12/17/2010 3:06:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/17/2010 3:02:43 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 12/17/2010 11:11:04 AM, Ren wrote:
At 12/17/2010 3:29:59 AM, FREEDO wrote:
I have asked this before but it still baffles me and strikes my interest. What is consciousness? What does it mean to be conscious? What is it's source? Where is it?How does it start? How does it end? How do you know? Can science explain it? Can the nature of comprehension even be understood by itself?--is it beyond our understanding?

I think it's pretty clear that it's what renders us distinct, self-aware individuals.

Persona, personality, emotions, intellect, experience, compulsions, ethics, and inheritance.

What is it, though? How can it be?

Your question doesn't really make any sense. What do you mean what IS it? What are you trying to reduce it to?
FREEDO
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12/17/2010 3:13:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/17/2010 3:06:42 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 12/17/2010 3:02:43 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 12/17/2010 11:11:04 AM, Ren wrote:
At 12/17/2010 3:29:59 AM, FREEDO wrote:
I have asked this before but it still baffles me and strikes my interest. What is consciousness? What does it mean to be conscious? What is it's source? Where is it?How does it start? How does it end? How do you know? Can science explain it? Can the nature of comprehension even be understood by itself?--is it beyond our understanding?

I think it's pretty clear that it's what renders us distinct, self-aware individuals.

Persona, personality, emotions, intellect, experience, compulsions, ethics, and inheritance.

What is it, though? How can it be?

Your question doesn't really make any sense. What do you mean what IS it? What are you trying to reduce it to?

It's hard to express. Where does it come from? What makes it so? One may explain that the brain is made up of this part and that part but ultimately that doesn't really explain consciousness.
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mongeese
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12/18/2010 12:18:20 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
This has always puzzled me, as well. If we were to construct a computer to produce output given input, would it have consciousness? Would it have its own "mind"? What if we made something simple out of carbon, an organic creature as simple as a bacteria. Would it have consciousness? Probably not. It makes very few decisions at all. But if we keep evolving the bacteria, we get more and more complicated, until we arrive at us - and we have consciousness. I have consciousness, at least, but I can't prove the consciousness of you guys.

Another question is, is death irreversible, and why? If I were to destroy you, then put you back together with the exact same atomic structure, would you reappear as you were, nothing changed? Or would you be replaced by a new conciousness that inherited your memory and personalities? What if I were to clone you perfectly while you are alive? Does one consciousness inhabit two individuals?
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12/18/2010 12:22:20 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/18/2010 12:18:20 AM, mongeese wrote:
This has always puzzled me, as well. If we were to construct a computer to produce output given input, would it have consciousness? Would it have its own "mind"? What if we made something simple out of carbon, an organic creature as simple as a bacteria. Would it have consciousness? Probably not. It makes very few decisions at all. But if we keep evolving the bacteria, we get more and more complicated, until we arrive at us - and we have consciousness. I have consciousness, at least, but I can't prove the consciousness of you guys.

Another question is, is death irreversible, and why? If I were to destroy you, then put you back together with the exact same atomic structure, would you reappear as you were, nothing changed? Or would you be replaced by a new conciousness that inherited your memory and personalities? What if I were to clone you perfectly while you are alive? Does one consciousness inhabit two individuals?

What I see as most likely is that everything has a level of consciousness because of the flow of information that is passing between everything constantly causing reactions. But the more intricate this information is within a certain space the more consciousness exists there. As if consciousness is a force of nature.
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12/23/2010 10:59:11 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/17/2010 3:29:59 AM, FREEDO wrote:
I have asked this before but it still baffles me and strikes my interest. What is consciousness? What does it mean to be conscious? What is it's source? Where is it?How does it start? How does it end? How do you know? Can science explain it? Can the nature of comprehension even be understood by itself?--is it beyond our understanding?

If someone knew the answer to your really important questions, and they answered you, they would be hissed and hooted off the stage. Hence the silence! Two things though before I buzz off - the thought process cannot identify the Consciousness which silently observes it; and all modes of experimentation are also useless in proving the its actual nature.