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distraff
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8/7/2016 6:44:09 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals?

Animals include fish and simple sea organisms and were first seen about 670 MYA with the first simple sea organisms. We see the first fish about 530 MYA. We see the first anphibians (land animals) about 370 MYA.

Scientists think that land plants evolved from algea in the water about 700 MYA. They used to think think it was about 480 MYA but the date has been moved back thanks to new fossil evidence.

So I would say that it looks like plants have evolved first but the margin of error on these dates is to big to know for sure.
janesix
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8/7/2016 9:12:09 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/7/2016 6:44:09 AM, distraff wrote:
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals?

Animals include fish and simple sea organisms and were first seen about 670 MYA with the first simple sea organisms. We see the first fish about 530 MYA. We see the first anphibians (land animals) about 370 MYA.

Scientists think that land plants evolved from algea in the water about 700 MYA. They used to think think it was about 480 MYA but the date has been moved back thanks to new fossil evidence.

What new fossil evidence? Do you have a link?

So I would say that it looks like plants have evolved first but the margin of error on these dates is to big to know for sure.
dee-em
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8/7/2016 1:20:07 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals?

Plants. They can make their own food from sunlight.

Animals cannot produce their own food. They have to eat plants or other animals for sustenance.
janesix
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8/7/2016 8:38:14 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/7/2016 1:20:07 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals?

Plants. They can make their own food from sunlight.

Animals cannot produce their own food. They have to eat plants or other animals for sustenance.

I found some info on land plants, which may have evolved 150 million years befor the first animals in the cambrian explosion. I cant find any info on when the first aquatic plants though, which i assume must have evolved first. Unless semi aquatic plants first evolved from algae. It seems the earliest fossil evidence is from land plants about 400 million years ago. But genetic evidence suggest a beginning closer to 700 million years ago. If you find any links on the first aquatic plants, please share.
janesix
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8/7/2016 8:56:32 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/7/2016 1:20:07 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals?

Plants. They can make their own food from sunlight.

Animals cannot produce their own food. They have to eat plants or other animals for sustenance.

They could have eaten algae befor there were plants.

The earliest fossil evidence of plants is 150 million years after the first animals.
AlyceTheElectrician
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8/7/2016 9:40:59 PM
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Plants.

Meat eating plants are fascinating! Yes?

I don't know why but it would be fun to have a meat eating plant garden!
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8/7/2016 11:33:32 PM
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I know a lot of people who are vegetables and a Missouri judge declared chickens legally walking vegetables..... so..... you could argue the plants just kept on evolving and modern science has their classification system all screwed up.
dee-em
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8/8/2016 7:55:45 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/7/2016 8:56:32 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/7/2016 1:20:07 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals?

Plants. They can make their own food from sunlight.

Animals cannot produce their own food. They have to eat plants or other animals for sustenance.

They could have eaten algae befor there were plants.

You must be talking about amphibians then, not true land animals. Some algae are in the plant family. Regardless they all photosynthesize to produce food so they can be thought of as plants.

The earliest fossil evidence of plants is 150 million years after the first animals.

You need to be more careful with the terms you use. What animals are you referring to? What you are suggesting cannot be correct. Land animals had to eat something.
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8/8/2016 12:07:54 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals? : :

Neither one evolved. They're only formed illusions that appear in a consciousness of a created being. Everything we experience comes from stored information in the form of vibrations. Those vibrations ( frequencies ) are a string of information. One wavelength is the lowest form of information that exists within God's creation so when these frequencies are converted ( processed ) into a consciousness and senses, those senses give us a visible world to walk around in. Once you start experiencing your consciousness that gives you self awareness, then you will begin to observe visible objects that are not real objects made from materials ( matter ).

When the first man observed animals and plants with his sense of sight, he had no idea where those images come from. He actually believed they were real animals and plants. But it would take thousands of years before God's people learned that we're living in a computer generated simulation program. First, God had to use information called the Beast to teach his people how to build objects with their human hands. This was the only way to teach them how to build computer technology and a computer generated simulation program that God needed to use to teach me how he was able to speak his thoughts into technology that could convert those thoughts into vibrations that carry his simulation program which we're all involved in.

Evolution is just a deceptive teaching that God introduced into some minds of his characters to keep them busy until we learned the Truth.
AlyceTheElectrician
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8/8/2016 12:57:53 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/8/2016 12:07:54 PM, mjmaxwell wrote:
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals? : :

Neither one evolved. They're only formed illusions that appear in a consciousness of a created being. Everything we experience comes from stored information in the form of vibrations. Those vibrations ( frequencies ) are a string of information. One wavelength is the lowest form of information that exists within God's creation so when these frequencies are converted ( processed ) into a consciousness and senses, those senses give us a visible world to walk around in. Once you start experiencing your consciousness that gives you self awareness, then you will begin to observe visible objects that are not real objects made from materials ( matter ).

When the first man observed animals and plants with his sense of sight, he had no idea where those images come from. He actually believed they were real animals and plants. But it would take thousands of years before God's people learned that we're living in a computer generated simulation program. First, God had to use information called the Beast to teach his people how to build objects with their human hands. This was the only way to teach them how to build computer technology and a computer generated simulation program that God needed to use to teach me how he was able to speak his thoughts into technology that could convert those thoughts into vibrations that carry his simulation program which we're all involved in.

Evolution is just a deceptive teaching that God introduced into some minds of his characters to keep them busy until we learned the Truth.

Are you a Jim Gates fan? His super symmetry theory suggest we are in a computer simulation, he's a theist too.

Interesting post, But it's hard to consider for me because I haven't accepted the concept of God. Especially the Judeo-Christian God, or the Superior alien race God, or dark matter as God.
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8/8/2016 1:52:07 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/8/2016 12:57:53 PM, AlyceTheElectrician wrote:
At 8/8/2016 12:07:54 PM, mjmaxwell wrote:
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals? : :

Neither one evolved. They're only formed illusions that appear in a consciousness of a created being. Everything we experience comes from stored information in the form of vibrations. Those vibrations ( frequencies ) are a string of information. One wavelength is the lowest form of information that exists within God's creation so when these frequencies are converted ( processed ) into a consciousness and senses, those senses give us a visible world to walk around in. Once you start experiencing your consciousness that gives you self awareness, then you will begin to observe visible objects that are not real objects made from materials ( matter ).

When the first man observed animals and plants with his sense of sight, he had no idea where those images come from. He actually believed they were real animals and plants. But it would take thousands of years before God's people learned that we're living in a computer generated simulation program. First, God had to use information called the Beast to teach his people how to build objects with their human hands. This was the only way to teach them how to build computer technology and a computer generated simulation program that God needed to use to teach me how he was able to speak his thoughts into technology that could convert those thoughts into vibrations that carry his simulation program which we're all involved in.

Evolution is just a deceptive teaching that God introduced into some minds of his characters to keep them busy until we learned the Truth.

Are you a Jim Gates fan? His super symmetry theory suggest we are in a computer simulation, he's a theist too.

Interesting post, But it's hard to consider for me because I haven't accepted the concept of God. Especially the Judeo-Christian God, or the Superior alien race God, or dark matter as God. : :

Don't worry about God or the Creator of the simulation program we're involved in. We will never get to know who or what it is that spoke us into existence through technology that is similar to IBM's Watson or other voice recognition/search engine technology.

All our Creator wanted us to know was what this technology is what he used to create a simulation program and how it takes stored information and processes into people and beasts with a consciousness and senses to give us life experiences in visible worlds.

Nothing we experience is made of material matter. It's all an illusion that began as invisible information in the form of vibrations ( frequencies ). One wavelength of a frequency is the lowest form of information that gives us life experiences. So one wavelength is equivalent to a 0 and a 1 in the computer binary code that the voice of God taught man to use along with the knowledge to build computer technology.

Only a few people were designed in this first part of the program to understand this knowledge about us living in a computer generated simulation that is way more advanced than anything we characters in the simulation built according to planned information called the Beast.
janesix
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8/8/2016 6:02:27 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 8/8/2016 7:55:45 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/7/2016 8:56:32 PM, janesix wrote:
At 8/7/2016 1:20:07 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/7/2016 6:05:11 AM, janesix wrote:
Plants or animals?

Plants. They can make their own food from sunlight.

Animals cannot produce their own food. They have to eat plants or other animals for sustenance.

They could have eaten algae befor there were plants.

You must be talking about amphibians then, not true land animals. Some algae are in the plant family. Regardless they all photosynthesize to produce food so they can be thought of as plants.
Algae are not plants. They are in the kingdom protista. Plants evolved from algae.

The earliest fossil evidence of plants is 150 million years after the first animals.

You need to be more careful with the terms you use. What animals are you referring to? What you are suggesting cannot be correct. Land animals had to eat something.

Both plants and land animals evolved around 400 million years ago. They must have evoved together.